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Have any of you learned a new language for the primary reason of being able to appreciate literature native to that language? I would love to understand French for this reason, especially for poetry that gets lost in translation.
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Also, would reading two of the same book side by side, one in english the other in french, be a good way to get thrown into the deep end, so to speak
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>>8215766
>Have any of you learned a new language for the primary reason of being able to appreciate literature native to that language?

yes, ancient greek. and given how often i actually speak french, also french.

>would reading two of the same book side by side, one in english the other in french, be a good way to get thrown into the deep end, so to speak

no, translation is a little bit more complicated than that, and you would fail to understand the nuances of grammar.
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I've been learning German for about 5 years and I have read things in that language, but only recently I have begun to read my actual first novel in German, Er ist wieder da.

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is he the definition of a hack?
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>>8215763
He could count the fingers on his hands, and add to ten, but he could tell you why that was so.
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>>8215775
*couldn't
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>>8215775
>>8215777
which could is couldn't

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Going away from cupcake characters and romantic tropes, I want to write a very intelligent but realistic characters.
I was wondering: What are the motivations for these characters. Really, I'm lead to the question what the "return value" of being alive and successful really is. For example, I can't help but think eveb rich successful business men have it sometimes worse than me. Marries with kids, only stress with those, and vacation is literally just to off time from work. That's hoe it seems.

I'm impressed by Nicolas Winding Refn type protagonists: Individuals who are doomed to fail and know it. But I'm dreaming up characters with more resources than his have.
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> I want to write a very intelligent but realistic characters

Aubrey–Maturin series has this (If you can handle the naval autism).
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>>8215761
Tolstoy wrote good intelligent and rich characters in War and Peace.

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Does anybody know any good Survival books or guides? Preferably mainly focused on forests or such, shelter and hunting (duh).
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They're all decent, just look into as many as you can.
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>>8215740
I currently found http://www.doomguide.com/sas/ and it seems decent or worth reading.
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>>8215731
Ask on /out. They are good mate

I have recently begun reading books in PDF/EPUB form and I am wondering if you can somehow mark all the words that you do not know so that later you can export them to a separate document in order to learn them.

I know I can copy and paste but that would ruin the immersive aspect of reading more than simply highlighting it and exporting all the words at once at the end.

Anyone know how I can do this?
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>>8215715
I enjoy this feature in my Amazon Kindle Paperwhite™

If I'm unsure of a word, I simply press it with my fingertip and the Oxford English Dictionary™ entry is brought up, and that word is immediately added to my learning list.

When I want to look over the words I have looked up, I access this feature. It's similar to flash cards, and once I'm comfortable with a word, I can remove it from the list.
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>>8215732

Mm. I do not own a Kindle however :(

I use my computer. Thanks either way.
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>>8215833
Have you thought about purchasing the Amazon Kindle Paperwhite™?

It's simply the best reading device when you're at home, at work, or out on the go.

The Amazon Kindle Paperwhite™ even features a child-friendly mode so that you can control what the little ones' see when they're using your Amazon Kindle Paperwhite™.

And now available at the low low price of just $119.99, the Amazon Kindle Paperwhite™ is more affordable than ever!

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Is there a single woman who understands this book?
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every single woman understands that book and avoids you for identifying with it
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>>8215621
holy SHIT op on suicide watch
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No, women cannot understand it.

There are some that like to identify with it on a superficial level but only a man can truly understand Caulfield.

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Besides the works of Bret Easton Ellis and Tao Lin, could /lit/ offer me some works that deal with millennials?

I ask this as a millennial who can see the vapidity and high-order narcissism of his peers, but can also see in them positive traits such as diligence and idealism (despite the onslaught of ironic content the internet has churned out). Thus, I would like some sort of assurance (or counter-argument) that all generations have been equally "me, me, me." If nothing in points such a direction, then why is that?
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>>8215434
try Marxism, specifically Jameson
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>>8215434
>works that deal with millennials

Nu School Know-Brow YA

>>8215290

>a literature of New Media

>Avant Garde way beyond post modern

.. mattering and storytelling are in an intra-active relationship...

...Storytelling is not just a sensemaking or linguistic account, it is also about mattering...

... Storytelling is the teleological movement that arises from timespacemattering that is not strictly reducible to sensemaking consciousness...
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>>8215434
>I ask this as a millennial

...look deeper....

..There are some recent researches which put the emphasis on the youth, the future of the society who is at the forefront of new media environment...

...According to the media ecology theory, analyzing today's generational identity through the lens of media technologies themselves can be more productive than focusing on media content....

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Yeah, I read the Diving Comedy.

So What?

Does that make me a better man? Does that make me wiser for having read it?

I read it in a fever dream of mass hysteria, guilt, and confusion in which I wrestled with god in cacoon of my own self-righteous, twisted ego because I was not who I thought I was, and that fact had finally been revealed to me.

I was not a hero in my own play, but just a passerby in a much larger work.

But so what? So it humbled me, so it made me think, these are things we should all do, all the time.

Do I claim to have understood every passage with perfect clarity? Do I claim that what it meant most to me was not that I found the words beautiful and inspiring?

Inspiration is all around us, it means no less to the common man than it does to us.

Don't be lazy. Don't fall into the trap. Spread your wings. Dive through gutters. Dig through dime novels and pulp fiction and comic books.

Aspire to read things that are forbidden. Read things that are boring or you thought to have no merit. See for your self. Aspire to things beyond your ken, make a master of yourself those things which fill your head with conceit or insecurities.

And always, always, always, keep an open mind. There is always more to know.
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>The Diving Comedy
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I am inclined to agree.
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>>8215324
well whatever the fuck its called, I read it. Its sitting up on my shelve with my favorite passages highlighted in yellow market.

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>2016
>15 years since 9/11
>Global Islamic Jihad is killing people on the streets of Europe and America
>Still no good fiction talking about it

War is a hugely popular context for literature. Real wars are the setting for countless classics of war fiction over the years.

How long until ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Global War on Terror™ is a "setting" for literature? (i.e. fiction - plot and narrative-driven story)

Do we have to wait until the war is over for the literary cathartic reflection to begin?
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>posting the same thread everyday

fucking autists
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There's plenty of good literature about it.
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>>8215280
I'm not talking about non-fiction

>>8215272
every day people post non-fiction books and I say "thanks but I said literature" and then it's silence.

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What do you make of this work
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I prefer his metaphysics
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Essential reading
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everything he wrote is trash but still have to wash it down for the sake of understanding pretty much everyone

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What does /lit/ know of the Seven Liberal Arts ?
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Pythagorean 3-4-5 Triangle is a good symbol to conceptualize the Trivium, Quadrivium

The Trivium is a systematic method of critical thinking

The Trivium: The three arts of language pertaining to the mind

Grammar art of inventing and combining words

Logic art of thinking

Rhetoric art of communication

The Quadrivium: The four arts of quantity pertaining to matter

Continuous quantity

Geometry theory of space

Astronomy application of the theory of space
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>>8215170
>The Quadrivium

Discrete quantity of number

Arithmetic theory of number

Music application of theory of number

The Pythagoreans considered all mathematical science to be divided into four parts: one half they marked off as concerned with quantity, the other half with magnitude; and each of these they posited as twofold. A quantity can be considered in regard to its character by itself or in its relation to another quantity, magnitudes as either stationary or in motion. Arithmetic, then, studies quantities as such, music the relations between quantities, geometry magnitude at rest, spherics [astronomy] magnitude inherently moving
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What does /lit/ know of the 5 Platonic Solids ?

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>had had
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>>8215143
>An historical
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>but then
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>myriad

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What should i read by him?
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How To Be a Drunken Little French Rent Boy
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How To Swindle The Boring Folk Into Believing You're A Talented Poet By Writing Prolix Letters To Your Sister
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How To Become A Role Model To Pseuds, Benders & Other Cunts In The Twenty First Century

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I hate niggers.
What should I read?
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The Souls of Black Folk
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>>8215130
Instructions on the quickest, most effective way to commit suicide. I bet you're even dumber than a nigger.
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Lovecraft. He regularly makes them responsible for the apocalypse.

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When is the appropriate age to start introducing your children to the Greeks? I've started reading The Republic to my 6 year old and he doesn't seem to be getting it despite it being easily the most understandable of Plato's works. Is he doomed to be a pleb for life?
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If you really want to start little kids on the Greeks, read them Aesop's fables. Maybe introduce them to some of Plato's analogies (the cave, etc.).

Once they've finished those you should be able to move them onto Hegel and Lacan.
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>not reading them fables or myths
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Did you read him Homer, Hesiod, Protagoras, Pythagoras, Socrates, and Heraclitus first? If not, it's your fault he doesn't understand it.

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