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>>9921048

>has massive psychological issues
>becomes a feminist

makes sense

>>9921048
she a beauty... if I were a dyke elephant

>>9920551
English: Ulysses' prerequisites (Homer & Shakespeare key works, and Dubliners and Portrait), then read Ulysses, but analyze it as throroughly as possible. This exercise will make you more knowledgeable about literature than 99% of degree holders, plus literature peaked after Ulysses and In Search of Lost Time by Proust. Oh, and get In Search of Lost Time by Proust, Montcrieff translation, no prereqs needed. Maybe throw in The Brothers Karamazov too.

Philosophy: Plato, Aristotle, Lao Tzu, Marcus Aurelius, Kant, and maybe Nietzsche.

I think the problem with producing one for philosophy is that it is a very large field with undergraduate programs having different focuses from school to school. My program is largely comprised of ethics and politics courses due to that being what the majority of our professors are experts on (there are classes for the other core disciplines obviously, but very little). This is amplified as there's a lot of different things you can study in the broad sections of philosophy.

While there are certainly great works that will be read no matter what by every undergrad (Republic, Descartes' Meditations, etc), a large bulk of what their studying varies based on their interests and the limitations I mentioned earlier.

I think you can forge a list of literature that every undergrad should have read (such as in this post >>9920565) but fully capturing a philosophy degree in a stack of books is impossible.

>>9920565
>>9920569
I've read everything on your lit list save Proust (putting him off until my French is up to snuff). Literature to read is something I have a solid handle on, I suppose what I want to do is fix my stiff prose and dig into some, for lack of a better descriptor, textbooks. The kind of things you'd be forced to slog through and write banal essays about and eventually look back on and cry.

Example, I have Garner's Modern English Usage on my Amazon list for reading in the near future (yes, from that). I'm out of my element with these things and could use some direction.

WRT philosophy, fair enough. I have read almost none of the mentioned authors and can go ahead and nix that for now. Direction should be easy to find now that I think about it.

Thanks for your constructive replies. I hope this is of interest to more than just myself.

>>9920314
prepare to ride the tiger

you should read men among the ruins and revolt against the modern world before ride the tiger

You can see his stripes but you know he's clean

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>when you realize all the fruit juice is del montean

>>9920253
How are Nietzsche and Heidegger Kantian?

>>9920285
Nietzsche's initial metaphysic is Schopenhauerian, i.e. Kantian, and Blattner has pretty much correctly argued that Heidegger is a transcendental (temporal) idealist

>>9920243
the entire western canon

>>9920261
link?

I'd say read some more Dosto before getting into TBK. If you're in a hurry, read the Underground Notes, it is a short read.
Of course some background on Russian literature would be good, but if you get an edition with good notes you're golden.

glad my poem lives on a life far beyond my shitpost station. if i remember correctly:

you are the cream
and sugar
in my coffee
diabetes

>>9920073
Not all your works can be master pieces.

i'm a woman
gotta take pictures of my
face constantly have to
keep taking pictures with my face in
them i have
three different websites just to
post pictures of me looking cute for
my family friends and total
strangers did you see me wearing
this new clothing did
you see me
standing
in front of this building

one time i went to the library and
just so you know that i went there i took
fifteen pictures
of myself
standing next to it and looking cute haha
look at this one it's of a burger i
ate that
i wanted to show everyone and also 80% of the frame is
my face
can you believe the cutesy affected
expression i'm
making don't i look cute when
i'm doing absolutely
everything that i
ever do on a daily basis that i
photograph myself doing have you
seen these 214 pictures of me visiting madrid for
one day have you
seen how i stood next to
all the things and my
face was there and i was cute

hang on

don't take a picture of me let me make sure i'm posing my
facial muscles in a way that perfectly makes me
look youthful
and girlish and attractive in a series of gestures and expressions that are
half-conscious because i'm a narcissist but also
half-unconscious because i've simply
introjected a constant need to be
posing and preening and
peacocking in every moment of my fucking life and everything i do
is just a
vehicle for appending my
face to it because i’m
a woman

WOW excuse me are you misogynistic or
something it's not like i do this for
you are you kidding me you
actually think that i spend all day
every day every hour of
my entire waking life
specifically accentuating all the
secondary sex characteristics
you find attractive and
posing my face
to look cute and young for YOU
are you delusional I do this for me and
nobody else i
just like to feel attractive nevermind the fact that
attractive presupposes the question to
whom i do it for me and
nobody else now
excuse me
while
i take a picture of
myself fictitiously soullessly smirking in a
way that i've
unconsciously learned makes me look dorky-cute variant #81 while i
try on sunglasses
in a fucking
walmart

literally name him after 2 people you know
one's first name, the others last
or just pick a historic or biblical name

Naming system:
Suburban American Surname
unremarkable physical entity

Jeff Dirt
Larry Mayonnaise
Ben Cabinet

>>9920074
surname = first name btw
I just changed it. Well.. Jarry Frisbee and I just changed it..

I was moving down sixpence and poor street clamming my gibbies in a stroller basket when up came a wrinkle in my wiggle. Wagabagbob up to the parapet and me and old sailer john having a snag by the old lions den. Cage there was made of sterling. Made me want to puke.

I crashed through the streetcar onto the concrete like SHAB A LAB A SHAB A LAB. Dead men croak when all is going right finally. And I wait. And I wait.

>>9919653
>>>9918407

>>9919582
Wait shit, they do? Oh boy

>>9919582
Why does /mu/ love goblins so much?

>>9919582
BIG PROSE

He's got eals for floors and doors for hands.

Last name Green and he's a mean machine. Eating cheerios while of women he dreams.

Eggs are for breakfast, why is it so?

>>9919247

feelsies * maybe I went overboard with that one

Watt

>>9919253

There's no time to explain, just rec a book

>>9919142
How?
I'm half-way through and don't see it

More like the autism manifesto
>dude 90% of the book is pointless wacky shit lmao

>woah, Pynchon is so deep, fuck war amirite

>dude circular structure lmao, absolute madman! XDXDDD

>poop!! loooooooooooooooool genius

>>9919142
There are definitely more misanthropic pieces of fiction but GR is certainly in the genre of American misanthropic fiction.
>>9919198
literally how? The opening quote of the book should put you on immediate notice. Not only is Pynchon spitting in religion's face, he's also telling you about the real purpose of the book, to expose the fact the "the powers that be" give no shits about sides in a war or whatever is portrayed in history books.

it's an argument over the definition of "freedom" and
"causation"
Read Ayer "freedom and neccissity"
The compatablist says that our actions are inevitable but we're not under constraint so we're free.
"How can we think a man free other than the power to do what he will"- Locke
>>9919125

Compatabilism isn't just one set of ideas, it's any belief that says free will + determinism can work together.

For example, the idea that the external factors in making a decision are deterministic, but the internal factors that stem from your consciousness are made freely. This would be a compatabilist belief.

At the end OP, it's mostly a question of definitions. I think the problem you're having is not realising that compatabilists may have a differing definition of free will and determinism than you do, which is why to you it seems illogical but for them is a coherent belief.

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>>9919219
So what compatibilists are saying is that a person has free will to react to an event, but because events are deterministic, the person was always going to choose to react that way and never would have chosen a different reaction?

Am I understanding correctly

If that's the case then isn't free will kind of a moot point since they were always going to make that "choice"? What relevance does free will really have if the choice was inevitable anyway?

I'm looking to unintentionally pirate it from all of the Instagram and /lit/ posts.

>>9918538
>sun
>her

Ugh... Did xe like just assume Sun's gender?

>>9918538
the poo
and her loo
-poopy kafir

>>9918070
dude weed lmao

What sort of philosopher are you that you have such superficial references and no idea where to look for something of the sort?

How fucking stupid do you have to be to be a banker?
I've thought about this with Satan before. How stupid does he have to be to go on for ETERNITY and never think what he's doing is – I don't know – pointless?
Same for a banker. The amount of stress and tension and control, for what? For you to get your knocks off in how powerful you are? It just doesn't make sense to me.