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Was Kaczynski correct when he argued that modern civilization leaves people unfulfilled by depriving them of autonomy and self-sufficiency?
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>>8301092
No. It's their autonomy and self-sufficiency that leaves them unfulfilled.
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Modernity is a spook and so are you kiddo.
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>>8301125
you fell for the authoritarian meme
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I'm looking for a book which is fun, pretty edgy, and a bit out there. Something where a lot of really weird, bizarre stuff happens, that are like the fantasies that you wouldn't want to share with anyone and keep to yourself. I'm looking for a book that would make me uncomfortable to bring up with others, but I don't just want it to have content like 120 days of sodom or story of the eye, like filled with sex or something, I actually want it to have a very esoteric feel which will open my mind up to weird and outside the box sorts of thoughts, like unlocking the doors of imagination and leading to obscure corners of your mind. So, perhaps I could say it would be like a book you could bring up with anyone, because I think really the only subject matter which I would avoid talking about with other people ever is sex. I don't talk about sex with anyone, but I'd bring up the pictures of dead bodies that I saw on the internet to my own mother and I don't care.
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>>8301048
I have been meaning to get a copy of this for some time, it sounds interesting. I just ordered one, shame I can't get a hardcover copy for cheaper than 20 dollars.
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Give me your worst experiences from a writing class, /lit/
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>>8300964
One time a guy farted on my desk
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Tandem writing
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lit... lit... lit... what the fuck. gravity's rainbow is extremely fucking difficult, random song breaks, random dissensions into utter nonsense of the imagination of pirate, references to places and people I've never heard of, obtuse descriptions of things. I can't believe you tricked me into reading this, who actually reads this and why? Why would someone read something like this?
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You are not ready
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>>8300936
Have you read Pynchon before, OP?
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how many books do you read at a time?
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Usually just one. I get very immersed and absolutely need to finish books.
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>>8300886
Between 10 and 20. Sometimes I go months without reading a particular book, only to start where i Ieft months ago.
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>>8300886
One paperback for those dead times during the day
One hardcover for those quiet moments at home
Sometimes I read a collection of short stories if I am reading a very long novel on the side.
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Does this whole election seem like a Shakespeare play to anyone?
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>>8300535
yeah.
im hoping Hillary chooses Bernie as her vice president. then shit will be REALLY heated
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Yeah, no. Shakespeare would never write a character with the fourth grade speaking level of Trump. Rhetoric is at an all-time low in American politics
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>>8300535
If you think this was bad look at Nixon's entrance into office and the events preceding that in 1968. Although the discourse is much more shit tier now, Nixon's opposing democratic nominee was assassinated, and said nominee's campaigners and volunteers and all were literally beaten and arrested after Nixon's entrance into office by civil workers
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> started at 20 years old
> prolific writer who, at his best, creates one volume a month.
> works in a wide range of genres, and rapes the concept of genre altogether
> combines lowbrow comedy (Manzai) and psychological plotting to create something new altogether
> has absolute mastery of punning, slang, and language despite his high prolificity
> actually knows how to write complex mystery plots inspired by Golden Age Detective stories and Japanese Mystery writers – putting him in a realm far above stupid shit like the plot of Othello or Romeo and Juliet
> doesn’t just stop at making logical mystery plots, but sometimes delves into semantic mystery plots taking from a wide range of Occult knowledge
> knows how to combine psychology and thrilling plots ala Dostoyevsky, used to showcase the flaws and patterned thinking of his characters
Holy shit, it’s like Shakespeare is currently alive and working on serialized novels in our contemporary age and yet no one in the current literary establishment gives a shit.
Even if he can get overabundant with the pop-culture banter-humor at times, it’s not like the Bard wasn’t abundant at times with his bawdy humor. But this guy has been in the biz for around 15 years, and he still has a long life ahead of him. You can only expect a greater control and mastery of the form.
Some of the dual-banter moments in various works of his can even match the soliloquies in their psychological excavation.
Once people get over the otaku-bias (it’s not like all of his works utilize that specific humor), and actually cart his works over to English, I bet there’ll be a complete revival in genre fiction and fiction altogether. And even then, most of them will merely be ripping off the territory that he already staked out in his works.
But if you aren’t looking at this guy’s biography and oeuvre and wondering “holy shit… how the hell can I even touch his level”, then there’s definitely something wrong with you.
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he is hack, writing for pseuds and otaku, using "deep" themes and pointless rambling
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bait desu
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he is hack, writing for pseuds and perverts, using "deep" themes, shitty innuendo, and pointless sideplots
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Archive.org source of great lit?
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Besides public domain books being uploaded are there any more recent books on there to download?
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>>8300460
just use libgen or ebookzz
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>>8300460
do you not understand copyright laws?
the vast majority of it is public domain. and you will never finish reading everything on there that is worth reading.
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>>8300905
ever? how long would it take to finish all the good literature if you read 16 hours a day?
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Middlemarch
How good is this? Worth reading in spite of its length?
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Preface with a warning that I routinely read colossal novels and I bracketed either side of Middlemarch with Little Dorrit (800 pages) and Vanity Fair (700), both Victorian.
But, that said, book is phenomenal owing, not in spite of (cf Infinite Jest) it's length. A genuine (cf Infinite Jest) masterpiece. Terrifying in the depths of its suggestion that two people can never really know each other. Suffers only from a slightly weak ending (Dodo's, that is).
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>>8300422
I'm about a third of the way through right now. It's good so far.
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What is it about?
Aristocrats, love affairs... ennui?
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>mfw I just read the first 30 pages of the Dark Tower Series.
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Only the first book is pure edge, it gets better until book 4 and then turns into complete and utter shite.
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Walking through a wasteland is edgy now? Oookay then.
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>>8300374
read a description that it visits settings from other books. do i have to read said books before reading this?
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What would you do if you went blind
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>>8300338
listen to audiobooks
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>>8300342
Right, I didn't think of that..
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feel vibration corresponding to certain letters
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Post quotes from your favourite books and authors. Here's your chance, prove that they're worth reading or circlejerking over.
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"We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little lives are rounded with a sleep." is my favourite Shakespeare quote
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>You can not fully read a book without being alone. But through this very solitude you become intimately involved with people whom you might never have met otherwise, either because they have been dead for centuries or because they spoke languages you cannot understand. And, nonetheless, they have become your closest friends, your wisest advisors, the wizards that hypnotize you, the lovers you have always dreamed of.
Antonio Muñoz Molina
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>>8300341
I don't like this, it's a nice quote but i can see it being popular in a lot of wrong crowds and it's so idealistic and romantic in a wrong way almost.
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Would ancient classics like the Divine Comedy or the Aeneid be better if the authors had access to an erase or delete function?
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They did?
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>erase/delete function is part of the post-modern world
whew boi
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>>8300291
I don't know if they did. You can google it if it interests you
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Why do men have such shit taste?
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They only like erotica and Ulysses
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>>8300258
you mean burgers
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>>8300258
Why don't women have a penis?
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I have a confession /lit/....
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I can't read shakespeare. I can't, I'm sorry. I would hardly say I'm illiterate, I can take a good deal of styles of poetry and prose and nonfiction throughout history, I can also read most plays (including historical ones like Lord Byron's Cain, or Prometheus Bound) as long as the author is considerate enough to give some sort of action cues to clue us into what is going on.
Reading Shakespeare as he is published, there aren't any descriptions along with the dialogue, I start a play such as... say, King Lear, and it's just ENTER THESE UN-DESCRIBED CHARACTERS saying some things with no context, and reading throughout very little context is applied to what is going on. There's no setting information so unless I take out some time to watch a staging in preparation I have not even a hint at any visuals to go by.
I can appreciate the dialogue as being witty out of context, and reading the plot summaries I find some of the themes ground breaking, but I just can't read it comfortably, and unlike other mediums I eventually grew into, from semiotics to free poetry to historical epics, I can't see myself getting used to it.
Help, /lit/?
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the context comes from the dialogue. familiarize yourself with the dialect and you'll understand what's going on
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>>8300222
>familiarize yourself with the dialect and you'll understand what's going on
I'm trying, I really am. I'll read the first few scenes of Richard III or King Lear, and three players will walk in, and I will have to struggle to see who is talking to who, and without any setting, I only imagine these bland castle courtrooms and bedrooms.
A version of shakespeare with modern stage directions or screenplay-work, would make me unbelievably happy.
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>>8300206
I know it's a cliche to say, but plays are meant to be watched not read. Watch a movie based on the play or a recording of a theater performance or even go to a live theater performance. Take a copy of the play with you and follow along if you really want.
Or afterwards, you can use the visuals from what you watched and then trying reading the play. I know this only really helps with the popular works, but you should 100% be able to find a performance of Richard III or King Lear to watch and his other works of similar popularity.