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Reading Schopenhauer's "Art of Controversy" and realized it's basically "Advanced Shitposting Strategies"

>Stratagem XIV

>This, which is an impudent trick, is played as follows: When your opponent has answered several of your questions without the answers turning out favourable to the conclusion at which you are aiming, advance the desired conclusion, — although it does not in the least follow, — as though it had been proved, and proclaim it in a tone of triumph. If your opponent is shy or stupid, and you yourself possess a great deal of impudence and a good voice, the trick may easily succeed. It is akin to the fallacy non causae ut causae.

>Stratagem XXXII

>If you are confronted with an assertion, there is a short way of getting rid of it, or, at any rate, of throwing suspicion on it, by putting it into some odious category; even though the connection is only apparent, or else of a loose character. You can say, for instance, "That is Manichaeism" or "It is Arianism," or "Pelagianism," or "Idealism," or "Spinozism," or "Pantheism," or "Brownianism," or "Naturalism," or "Atheism," or "Rationalism," "Spiritualism," "Mysticism," and so on. In making an objection of this kind, you take it for granted (1) that the assertion in question is identical with, or is at least contained in, the category cited - that is to say, you cry out, "Oh, I have heard that before"; and (2) that the system referred to has been entirely refuted, and does not contain a word of truth.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Bloy

"Bloy is quoted in the epigraph at the beginning of Graham Greene's novel The End of the Affair and in the essay "The Mirror of Enigmas" by the Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges, who acknowledged his debt to him by naming him in the foreword to his short story collection "Artifices" as one of seven authors who were in "the heterogeneous list of the writers I am continually re-reading". In his novel The Harp and the Shadow, Alejo Carpentier excoriates Bloy as a raving, Columbus-defending lunatic during Vatican deliberations over the explorer's canonization. Bloy is also quoted at the beginning of John Irving's A Prayer for Owen Meany, and there are several quotations from his Letters to my Fiancée in Charles Williams's anthology The New Christian Year.[9] Le Désespéré was republished in 2005 by Editions Underbahn with a preface by Maurice G. Dantec.[citation needed] In Chile historian Jaime Eyzaguirre came to be influenced by Bloy's writings.[10]
According to the historian John Connelly, Bloy's Le Salut par les Juifs, with its apocalyptically radical interpretation of chapters 9-11 of Paul's Letter to the Romans, had a major influence on the Catholic theologians of Vatican Council II responsible for section 4 of the Council's declaration Nostra aetate, the doctrinal basis for a revolutionary change in the Catholic Church's attitude to Judaism.[11]
In 2013, Pope Francis surprised many by quoting Bloy during his first homily as pope.[3]
Bloy and his effect on 21st century French scholars make a significant appearance in Michel Houellebecq's 2015 novel Submission.!

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alright, /lit/, let's do this

who was the better poet: wordsworth or coleridge?

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can you rec me some good christian literature?

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What news sources do you follow, /lit/? I've been following BBC, but they're getting s little too liberal for my taste. Can anyone recommend any good--free--sources? I was looking into LeMonde.

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yo dog this was fucking sick b. sheeeit

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Post songs that really make you think about literary content.

I'll start with a corny one:

https://youtu.be/jzZEKT3A9WQ

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What fictional character do you most relate to? From literature, film, tv, anime etc.

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Can anyone help me with this letter?

I got $60 back out of $300 for a jazz camp i went to, I'm 21 and have to deal with a guy withholding my money when I was in attendance for a day and a half out of the 5 day week.

Hello Joey,

It's plain to see at this point that you're far more proficient at enforcing niggardly financial transactions then you are playing an instrument.

You've really opened up my mind to the possibilities of Jazz, music is a great and beautiful thing, but it's better to be like a cheap car salesman to keep every dime for your slippery fingers that you can nickel and dime from children.

I'd be interested in learning instead of music how to open a jazz club with you similar to the cotton club or vanguard where we can scam up and coming artists so we can put them right back in their parents house. Music is good, but only when it's working for us, eh pal?

As an adult it's easy to exercise a degree of influence over other parents who may be naive when it comes to these things, putting the fault back on the child or youth who as you stated multiple times did not come up to you when I went up to all 3 of my instructors including yourself and received aside from my guitar teacher little to no assistance.

Unless you clearly state that refunds are not allowed then you should, as a fair and hopefully honest business man do your best to make the customer happy, especially one who felt he received little to no assistance, and had an overall humiliating worthless experience.

I worked for every dime of that unlike many of your fellow gifted children who are generously provided by their parents, and I have to hear back from my father how you spun the story on me.

The fact of the matter is you were not prepared for a student of beginner level for doing more then strumming his instrument like a cheap barroom player and you've been putting on this carnival of a teaching class for a number of years.

I hope to use the matriarchal conspirator piece to blow my noise, shovel my dogs manure onto and finally roll it up and send back to you.

Signed, your beloved student,
Even though the outcome of this is pointless and i'll receive nothing in return it's one of the few times i've ever been held over like a fool. I'm 21 by the way.

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What did you think about this book?

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ITT: Books that left you feeling like shit at the end

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I've read the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Aeneid, the Metamorphoses, Arabian Nights, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, the Bible, and Dante's Divine Commedy. Where do I go from here?

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My goal is to, eventually, assemble a massive digital library, spanning thousands of books. I've only now started on it, so what I have is a goddamn joke, and it seems that there are no decent "book collection" packs available online to get me started on more solid grounds. And so, I wonder: since books occupy such small space on the drive, do any of you feel like sharing part of your digital collection? Ideally, it should only contain "relevant" works (are of good quality, thousands of people have read them, or they have some sort of cultural impact), but I'll settle for anything. I don't even care about formats.

I'd love to get a link-sharing thread started for packs of books, for us people interested in having a vast library available for us at any time. I know most only download that one book they plan to read next, but I'd rather have a huge collection instead, and I'd assume, so do others.

I'm leaving my poor "starter" library here. Passed it through Calibre tagger once, so-so results, and pretty much only one book per author. Not much of worth on it, but I hope it motivates others to do the same.

https://mega.nz/#!yJdzxJjS!YenJrmH4RT47peXgKv2NCX2Le5ylTQNEsQke_Jc1JIQ

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Reading this right now, and just finished the first chapter. Spanish is my second language and while I'm able to talk with people and read everyday Spanish, this is my first undertaking of a novel.

While I'm able to understand the plot and most of the actions, a lot of the adjectives and a few verbs I have never seen. In fact, several of them have not even been in my dictionary. I would say there are probably 6-7 average words per page I have to look up, and it's detracting heavily from my experience.

Do you guys tend to ignore descriptors when reading in an unfamiliar language? I don't see how I could improve my Spanish enough to read this fluently, since I've never encountered these words in everyday life.

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>3 volumes in your head

wow