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Currently reading The Sound and the Fury, and having a hard time getting through the book. At first I didn't pay attention to the leaps in time because I figured I'd get some sense of what was going on once Benjy's part had ended, but I just got to the chapter narrated by Quentin and am still dumbfounded by much of what's said.
Am I supposed to ignore the parts that don't immediately make sense? Because as of now, I keep getting disoriented trying to find some form of a narrative.
Am I just a dumb fuck? Thanks.
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You have to give this book lot of attention. I mean to every single sentence. After Benjy's section things should start to make sense. There are few narrative shifts and crucial moments and everything revolves around them via character's memory, if you grasp them, then it's not that difficult. You can refer to this commentary after each section, it clarifies narrative pretty good - http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~egjbp/faulkner/n-sf.html . And the disorientation is there for a reason. Faulkner was a master of that.
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>>8640011
Thank you, I guess I'll start over and keep a pencil at the ready.
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>>8640027
Godspeed, anon, it's one of the best books ever written.

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Looking for some redpilled poetry recommendations.

Besides Pound, are there any other properly redpilled poets?
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>redpill

Get out
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are you just asking for racist poets? there were/are a ton. pretty much any early modernist.
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>>8639989
Anti-Semitic, racist, anti-homosexuality and misogynistic poets really. Preferably everything at once

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Post a passage from the most unintelligible philosophical text you've ever read.
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>>8639828
This shit right here
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This is where it all started
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>>8639887
That's fairly easy to understand. He's saying "Culture makes a man civilized."

Post Hegel.

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"The literary canon" is for people who are terrified of individuality, and only want to consume safe, sterile, socially-approved literature. Prove me wrong.
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Ulysses is for people who are terrified of individuality, and only want to consume safe, sterile, socially-approved literature. Prove me wrong.
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>>8639823
Well, not necessarily sterile, but it definitely shows that you need some outside authority to gatekeep what does or doesn't "count".
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>>8639823
except, society as a whole doesn't read "the literary canon", so it's not socially approved. it's academically approved.

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What are the most essential non-english writers or novels of the 2010's? I mostly read classics so I want something new for a change since I'm pretty much ignorant of today's lit
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ferrante
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milo yiannopolous' book is good, he is english but from greek
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Hungarian guy is cool. Read all his books and still won't attempt to spell his name. There's only one relevant though anyway

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Why don't people like her?
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Why don't people like him!
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>>8639777
idk why?
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>>8639775
the 50 page speeches got to me. honestly she writes amazing stories and action with some morality (think ender's game or even dan brown whatever).

as much as i loved atlas shrugged, i wouldn't re-read it unless someone made an edit that brought the preaching down from an 11 to a reasonable 4. like how they made episode 1 good with the phantom edit.

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what do you guys think?
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>>8639738
The invention of the printing press
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Allen Ginsberg sticking a broom handle up his ass.
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>>8639742
*clay tablets

Just finished this masterpiece and thought we could get a thread going on some essential woke literature. What have you conscious-raising books have y'all been reading lately?

If you just want to discuss Coates then that's fine too. It'd take several lifetimes to unpack all the insight on white fragility that's in these pages
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>>8639707
We get it, you hate black people. Make your bait more subtle next time, ressentiment tosser
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>>8639736
If you're too dumb to read challenging literature and contribute to the discussion then find another thread to shitpost in, troll.
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>>8639806
Epin xD

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Does this get any better? Just seems like the ramblings of some NEET you see on 4chan.
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>>8639690
>not understanding the intense paradigm of love vs freedom in Dostoyevsky's work

gtfo pleb
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>>8639690
>not enjoying notes

It's hilarious
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i just ordered this off amazon.
thoughts pls
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I bought it as well but you can get the gist of it by skimming the Wikipedia article. I am a fully paid up Stirnerite but it is such a fucking boring book. I didn't get past page 100
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>>8639689
Make sure to read Marx's critiques later!
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>>8639703
How is it boring? Its actually considerably less boring than most philosophy books. Trying reading Hegel before reading Stirner. You'll welcome Stirner and death.

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What is the book equivalent of Tommy Wiseaus 'The room'?
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>>8639641
The ego and it's own
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>>8639641
Irene Iddesleigh
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>>8639641
Anything by John Green

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Which Dostoevsky book do I read next. Both sound equally as good.

Which one is more heavy handed in philosophy? I'm more into that type of Dosto, like in TBK.
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Demons is more political and deals with nihilism and the people who supported it. Based on true events.

The idiot is more of a character study with myshkin being a Christ-like figure in 19th century Russia.

Personally I liked demons better.
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>>8639588

i liked the idiot more, mostly because when i read demons i wasnt too familiar with the historical context in which demons was written.

depending on your background of russia during the time of dostoevsky, i would make this choice accordingly. if you are less concerned with historical context and wish to read a more standalone story, go idiot.

that being said, i think i owe demons a rereading here soon.
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Demons is so much better. Better read Turgenev's Father and Sons first, though.

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>Yates
>Yeats
>Keats
What the fuck ?
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English is dogshit. Enjoy your life.
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>>8639569
Irish language is awesome. Learn your fadas
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>Wolff
>Wolf
>Wolfe
>Woolf
>Wolfe
>Wolfe

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SPOILERS So I am on chapter 7 right now and I am trying to figure out what the fuck is going on in this book. Yeah so don't read on if you don't want it spoiled. I am at the part where they're in that yard with the bounty hunter and judge holden, and he just starts shooting animals in the yard to test out the guns. I dunno what the whole thing at the beginning of the chapter between the black guy and white guy who share the same name was all about, idk what it had to do with the part that followed it in the court yard; maybe it gets to that later. So, what I vaguely gathered from this really confusing scene is that what's his name the bounty hunter kills some animals and then shoots the bell, and then the army comes up and is like what the fuck are you firing that weapon for (I can't speak spanish so I can only assume that's what they were talking about). So judge holden, being the smooth talking psycho that he is, basically just goes on about a bunch of smooth talking bullshit, and then hands the sergeant some money to bribe him, and they ride away with the guns after formerly disputing whether or not it was a good price.

Did I sum up that part? Because I literally had to download the audiobook just for this part and listen to it so I would get it, because holy crap that was frustratingly difficult to follow along. Please don't give anything away that happens after that.
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>>8639551
Are you in high school? Not only did you miss a fat chunk of Chapter 7 but you also missed a fairly important chunk of dialogue. Most of what you wrote looks somewhat accurate but I get the feeling you're missing the bigger picture here.
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>>8639687
I only read the beginning of the chapter.
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When he shoots the cat and it just disappears had me laughing maniacally, mostly because I'd been reading it for 2 hours at that point and needed some way to relieve the heart sinking nausea of the soul..

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Anyone else here have an interest in esoteric/spiritual books with some unique theme/theory/perspective? Recently I've been reading the 666 Black Sun book, but I'm looking for other suggestions to add to my list.
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>>8639546
Yes, Summa Theologie. I only just started it after a long preparation. It's amazing.
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If you're mental enough to read that shit then you might as well read some Savitri Devi and become a fascist as well as an idiot.
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>>8639546
Many of the so-called esoteric authors/schools are all just frauds or cheap rip-offs of stuff that came before. In most cases it's better to study religious texts and commentary on them because it's often the esoteric parts of religious teachings/texts that are later just repackaged and sold as an esoteric cult thing.

Frithjof Schuon is one author that is pretty good as is Rene Guenon. Guenon's book "Introduction to the Study of Hindu Doctines" is pretty good and serves as an overall intro to both his work and Hinduism/eastern philosophy. They are both worth reading although Guenon seems to delve more into the esoteric teachings of various traditions so if you want esoteric stuff/metaphysics you should definitely check him out.

Gurdjieff is one of those people where he acted sort of like a cult leader but at the same time he had some really interesting teachings that some people find to be very profound so he is worth reading but take it all with a grain of salt. "Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson" by Gurdjieff is good although if you read it then it's important to read the 1950 edition or whatever ones are closest to the original text as possible because it was revised later in a more recent print and they butchered it. "In Search of the Miraculous" by Ouspensky is also good and is related to Gurdjieff and can be read before or after BTTHG.

Evola is also worth reading but can be sort of an edge-lord and he can make you want to roll your eyes sometimes. If you read him it's better to stick to his more metaphysical/religious stuff, his book on Buddhism is pretty good.

"Mount Analogue" by Daumal is also good.

>>8639603
OP avoid Devi she is just a retarded larper basically.

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