Is there a name for this type of writing style: when you don't include any of the character's thoughts at all? When you simply just describe the scene and what is happening. Is there a name for that style?
Also, do you think this could be effective?
It sounds like a lot of exposition, and that doesnt sound fun.
I think it could be very effective. A lot of the interiority of the characters would have to be implied through actions and dialogue.
It's funny you're posting a Zelda picture, because there was this one LOZ fanfic that sort of captured this idea. It was a Twilight Princess fanfic, and Link barely talked. It was one of the only times I've ever seen a fanfic writer hew to the idea that Link doesn't talk, and they pulled it off mostly by describing the way his face looked and the way he moved, as well as the general environment of the adventure, the smell and the feel of the places Link visited.
Fuck, I wish I could remember it now.
20 y/o STEM-lord here,
I've read 89 books, plays, and poetry collections in the last year or so, 69 classics and some non-fiction.
Here's my rating:
1. Milton - Paradise Lost > sustained verse
2. Shakespeare - various exchanges and soliloquys (in his later plays) > phrase-coinage and metaphors
3. McCarthy - Blood Meridian and Suttree > rhythmic alternations of sparse and rich prose
4. Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow > Shakespeare in prose
Personal Honourable Mention. Xenophon - Cyropaedia (Walter Miller translation) > b/c of a personal fascination with Cyrus
On the Fence. Delillo - Underworld > brief flashes of transcendence, probably needs some time to pass so that his descriptions become descriptions of the "historical" rather than what's actually going on right now.
Was wondering if anyone agrees with this?
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I put a premium on style because after a while I started to realize that alot of what constituted "great" literature was just good, but not great prose (by today's standards - not by the standards of their day) - mixed in with alot of fucking platitudes and "insights" and shallow levels of interpretation designed to appeal to the mass-market.
Examples:
The Russians - you can see what I think of them from the pic. They're not very good in-translation.
Divine Comedy (in-translation) was pretty good as a work of verse, but its real strength lay in its structure, setting, and the intertwining of allegory throughout. Wish I could read it in Italian - but I'm not going to learn an entire language just to read one work.
Homer might as well be read alongside "Game of Thrones" if not for the retarded amounts of references to his epics found throughout the entirety of the Western canon. Aeneid (Dryden) is an improvement though.
I prefer the translations of the Upanishads and Bhagavad Gita over Plato or Aristotle - and when reviewed in hindsight, the ideas entertained by the Vedic Indians are still applicable even today on the cosmic scale, whereas Plato seemed like he was just pulling unsubstantiated things out of his ass (and there's even some evidence that Plato and his successors took their best ideas from the Upanishads).
Other notable post-modern authors are frequently annoying to read since their works are typically laden with platitudes and triteness glued together by dry, workmanlike prose (often pleasant to read, but nothing that evokes a visceral emotional and/or mental response). Very few exceptions to this rule even with the "best" of them beyond a few paragraphs here and there - and I think it's awful how Infinite Jest has influenced an entire generation of budding authors.
>>8644052
cool blog
>>8644052
>you can see what I think of them from the pic.
do you disagree with those ideas, OP?
>>8644052
>20 years old
>STEMfag
>"here's my rating"
no thanks
What else should be on my fascist reading list?
(Please note, that this list is for understanding fascist philosophy and literature of similar ideals, not propagating hate)
Plato: Republic
Julius Evola
Ernst Jünger: Storm of Steel
Yukio Mishima: Snow in Spring, etc.
You forgot Mein Kampf.
>>8643847
I read that already and wouldn't recommend it. Horrible prose
bump
Well, that was different.
I saw a production of this many years ago where Titus was played by a guy legit missing his forearm. He had a convincing fake on for the entire play up until the point where it was removed.
Who here has read Hart Crane?
He's been called a "poet's poet", probably because his work takes a lot of effort to grasp conceptually, and the structure and rhythm of his poems usually subtle, and not usually apparent upon first glance.
I read his work slowly, going over many lines many times. I've never read anything like it. I just read it over and over, and then it just kind of makes sense. I wouldn't say he writes about anything notably complex, but the perspective with which he conveys it is really alien, and takes a while to wrap my head around.
But if I'm just looking at the writing, the words themselves, and can't think of many modern English poets who are comparable in skill level. He's easily better than Pound, and not because i just don't like Pound's style. The only person I think he is really comparable in style to is Eliot, but not structurally, as Hart's structure is simpler than Elliot's. But, Phonetically, he is a like Eliot but better, kind of like EE Cummings but with grammar.
Another think i find interesting about him was his prominence among the intellectuals of his time, despite being a high school drop out. His "Theory of Metaphor" is very interesting to me. From what i understand, he says that words used in poetry or other literature go beyond and become detached from their semantic meanings. They become something personal to the writer. And this "closeness" that the writer has to the word predates the word, and is where we find the true essence of poetry.
He killed himself at 32 because he considered himself a failure. Despite his hard life, which was troubled with alcoholism and sexual frustration, as he was gay during a time when it was illegal, he sought to create a poem in the same vein of that of TS Eliot's Wasteland, one that was more optimistic than Elliot's view of modern life.
His work appears to be either really simple or the type where one must pull back the various layers of symbolism and meaning.
Thanks for sharing.
I know Bloom's got a boner for him.
>>8643887
I imagine Hart Crane would likely have one for him too.
Halloween is around the corner.
Post spooky
I was thinking of reading The Shining. It's my favorite horror movie.
>>8643832
Hallowe’en in a Suburb
The steeples are white in the wild moonlight,
And the trees have a silver glare;
Past the chimneys high see the vampires fly,
And the harpies of upper air,
That flutter and laugh and stare.
For the village dead to the moon outspread
Never shone in the sunset’s gleam,
But grew out of the deep that the dead years keep
Where the rivers of madness stream
Down the gulfs to a pit of dream.
A chill wind weaves thro’ the rows of sheaves
In the meadows that shimmer pale,
And comes to twine where the headstones shine
And the ghouls of the churchyard wail
For harvests that fly and fail.
Not a breath of the strange grey gods of change
That tore from the past its own
Can quicken this hour, when a spectral pow’r
Spreads sleep o’er the cosmic throne
And looses the vast unknown.
So here again stretch the vale and plain
That moons long-forgotten saw,
And the dead leap gay in the pallid ray,
Sprung out of the tomb’s black maw
To shake all the world with awe.
And all that the morn shall greet forlorn,
The ugliness and the pest
Of rows where thick rise the stones and brick,
Shall some day be with the rest,
And brood with the shades unblest.
Then wild in the dark let the lemurs bark,
And the leprous spires ascend;
For new and old alike in the fold
Of horror and death are penn’d,
For the hounds of Time to rend.
what is he reading /lit/
My diary probably desu fampai
The dialectic of entitlement
A masterpiece
If you translated the work of any philosopher into plain English it would sound to obvious and silly that nobody would take it seriously.
Science, on the other hand, is fascinating no matter how simply you present it.
Science doesnt exist. Its just a process like logic.
>Muh science
is a fucking meme, technology is created by humans not by science
Bill Nye btfo
Proof:
>Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law without contradiction.
This is Kant saying "act as though everyone else will act in the same way as you".
Did you really need all those syllables to make such a simple statement that has been known since the dawn of time?
>>8643807
You've just proved yourself wrong, that's not what the formulation means at all. Note the phrase "without contradiction", for example.
How do you start to learn to read another language without going to classes and whatnot?
Do you read a textbook.....or dive right in with a novel in a foreign language and a dictionary?
>>8643734
Dawg I pick up one of 'em iphone apps for learning dem languages n scheisse.
the beatings continue until your french improves
>>8643737
Are you sure that's a good idea?
I've never seen Noam Chomsky lose a debate.
No matter what your opinion on the left may be, you have to admit that his articulation is unmatched in debates.
Just look at the debate between him and Jeff Buckley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gsFb0uSG5w
What is that above the lamp in that pic? A horseshoe crab?
>>8643724:^)
Why did you say that women can't write? I've just finished this shit and it was one of the best novels I've ever read in my entire life.
That's nice dear.
>>8643676
/pol/ says a lot of silly things
novels are degenerate art
How do I write a compelling character?
Send me a letter
*lights cigar* Just don't expect a reply..
>>8643574
heh...nothing personnel kid
was there something wrong with him? did he suffer some sort of mental retardation?
yes, one he still suffers from - academia
>>8643497
depressionwhiteness
Irony killed his soul
are the rumors true?
yes
he had the biggest cock in the biz
>>8643472
the look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged
david foster wallace is known to be THE most hung guy in pomo fiction, possibly one of the biggest in the world. his cock has been described as "like an evian bottle", with gargantual thickness that would rival shane diesel and shorty mac. im estimating his size to be at least 8.5" bone pressed, with OVER 7" of girth. he would have absolutely destroyed franzen's boipussy.
they would have spent hours and hours on foreplay, getting himself wet enough just so he can take it. i can just imagine him begging for it, with david barely able to force it past the knob, and johnathon moaning and squirming, demanding him to force it in deeper. he would have orgasm'd within seconds of taking the entire length, being filled and stretched right up to his colon. the orgasm would have been powerful, with his anal muscles clamping down on davids throbbing monstrosity, his whole body quivering in euphoria..
>>8643453
RIP David Foster Wallace, 1962-2016. Guys check the news, it really is true...
What are some good books about Celtic and Anglo-Saxon mythology, and maybe a bit on their history too? Nothing too academic, I'd prefer something that's rather easy and fun, while still being a good source of information.
Why read about the mythology when you can just read the mythology? I read link related and while the names and what have you were slightly different to what I learned in school, it's pretty damn comprehensive.
>http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2907748-complete-irish-mythology
You'll have to look elsewhere for Anglo-Saxon stuff, I'm afraid.
>>8643381
My diary desu
The Lord of the Rings.