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>Kafka on the shore
>Czechoslovakia is a landlocked country
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>>8636102
Not according to Shakespeare
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>>8636102
holy….i want more…
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>2666
>not a sci-fi novel

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>>8636091
>>8636113
Which one should I follow?
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We have this exact same thread every week. Use the catalog, please.

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Can we settle this once and for all?

Penguin vs. Oxford
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>>8636089
oxford is gay
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Not Wordsworth?
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>>8636089
They have the same or close to the same quality. Oxford usually has better content (essays and notes), but Penguin has the bigger catalog.
There's not much else to say really.

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ITT: tell me about your local library. Stories? Characters? How bad can it be?
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free wifi was a mistake
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>>8635885
there's a middle-aged man always on the computers at ours. he watches recorded mass services and then trawls Facebook looking at girls pics
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alright might as well ask here, but how do people 'spend all day in libraries'? like all you gotta do is pick a book out and go home for at least a few days to read it. you don't sit and read in a library...

Why is this opening passage so reviled? It reads nicely to me. Perfect atmosphere, where you know something cool is about to go down.

>It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents—except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness.
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>>8635435
It is kitsch.2 The blatant "This is taking place in London." does not help either, it could have been interwoven into the rest of the text much nicer. Plus it's a meme. You dip.

(2: of low artistic merit, despite being of high artisanic one; generic)
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>>8635435
By modern standards it is jejune.
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Wow Baron Edward Bulwer-Lytton came up with all kinds of memes: He coined the phrases "the great unwashed" "pursuit of the almighty dollar", "the pen is mightier than the sword", "dweller on the threshold", and the well-known opening line "It was a dark and stormy night".

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Redpilled books
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Industrial society and its future.

I have yet to hear an argument against it that has legs. Mostly just ad hominem towards Kaczynski.
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>>8635399
You're kidding me right?
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god this board is garbage

why isn't redpill an autoban word yet? i want /pol/ to get off my board

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Want are the best books to read in the KJV? I'm interested in gnarly stories like that of Sodom and anything to do with Satan or Death and the wrath of God and all that shit. Also, anything with supreme lyricism but that is also simple in its prose.

Not particularly interested in the poems of Psalms and shit, more the stories.

Love the heavy use of the word 'and' in the bible. It's like all the writers of the book read heaps of Cormac McCarthy before sitting down to talk about God n shit.
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>>8635088
If you aren't meming then I would suggest first and second Kings, Job, Matthew, Ezra (has top tier 'ands').

Also try and get some decent translations of the cabal. Try to read the bible with every book written, Director's Cut. It makes Gnosticism seem like the only logical conclusion.
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>>8635093
Seconding the two Books of Kings.

Also, Song of Songs for the porn.
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>>8635093
hectic thanks! not meming at all. Well the Cormac McCarthy thing was of course, but genuinely keen to read this beast coz its mad /lit/

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What text editor do you use to write, /lit/?
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>>8635042
vim
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emacs org mode
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>>8635042
Neovim

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/lit/ this is essential. That's all there is to it. Modernism could not have a better genesis than with Conrad.
>champions the white man's inherent domination of other species
>incredible narration that contains a variety of angles, perspectives, and timeline progressions about the burden of guilt and the souls precarious position within an unpredictable universe.
>incredible prose that is not weakened by maximalist hacks
>overall sublime Victorian characters who inflict hegemony because of their white superiority
This should be taught alongside Heart of Darkness IMO
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>>8635000
>champions the white man's inherent domination of other species
No he didn't
>incredible narration that contains a variety of angles, perspectives, and timeline progressions about the burden of guilt and the souls precarious position within an unpredictable universe.
Correct
>incredible prose that is not weakened by maximalist hacks
Yes
>overall sublime Victorian characters who inflict hegemony because of their white superiority
Not at all

You didn't understand the novel.
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>>8635000
>>8636457
I've only read Heart of Darkness and even I can tell OP is full of shit. The whole fucking point of that story was that the white people were exactly the same as the Africans it was only beautiful illusion that is civilization that separated them.

It's really a wonderfully anti-racist book and it's a shame it's been dragged through the mud just for depicting Africans as not having a civilization. Which is a true criticism (though not as true as the people making it believe) but not one with real merit since there's no fucking way Conrad could have known that at the time and it's fucking fictional anyway just imagine that Kurtz found an uncontacted tribe that didn't have a civilization Jesus is that so hard, fuck I hate people.
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>>8636479
If you liked Heart of Darkness you really ought to read Lord Jim.

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I want to get into Gary Snyder. What does /lit/ recommend?
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>>8634920
Wine him and dine him.
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>>8634920
>tfw Egoist

Here I was thinking I was following principles of morality, but it was actually just for me.


Well no change will come from it.
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>>8635939
>tfw primitivist

not surprised, but

>egoist in the rain

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Did Joyce read Chesterton at all?

I'm studying Ulysses at university. I got to the Scylla and Charybdis section, where Shakespeare is discussed. In that chapter, Oscar Wilde is mentioned frequently, George Bernard Shaw is mentioned once, the faith of Shakespeare is discussed, and the idea that there are paradoxes at work is stated directly by one of the characters. Yet Chesterton is nowhere in sight. He's almost conspicuous in his absence, because of course he too wrote a lot about the 'biography' of Shakespeare.

This led me to start searching JSTOR. I haven't gone through every single page of results, but near as I can tell, Joyce has no engagement with Chesterton's writing or ideas. He doesn't even seem to get a passing mention from Joyce, at least not in the academic writings I've found. This seems very strange to me, because while Joyce was relatively obscure for most of Chesterton's life, Chesterton was not obscure at all for most of Joyce's life. In fact, 1904, when Ulysses is set, is arguably the height of Chesterton's popularity, and he was widely read throughout the English-speaking world.

So what gives? Is this just one of those funny quirks of letters, like how Nietzsche never got around to reading Kierkegaard?
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>>8634907
Joyce read everything, he put Bloom to shame
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>>8634913
How did he do it?
Wasnt he on med school?
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OP here, doing a little more research just deepens the mystery. Joyce was an on-again, off-again friend of TS Eliot, whom he met when Eliot visited Paris in 1920. Eliot, meanwhile, lived in London, and while there he also butted heads with Chesterton quite a bit. However, when Eliot himself converted to Christianity in 1929, he and Chesterton mended fences, and thenceforth Chesterton was a regular contributor to the Criterion, Eliot's quarterly magazine.

With Eliot to link them, it seems ridiculous that Joyce wouldn't have had occasion to think about Chesterton. Yet I still can't find any commentary on him from Joyce. I'll keep looking.

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What's the greatest book of all time?
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Koran.
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>>8634732
Ulysses obviously, we have a poll to prove it now and all
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The Phenomenology of Spirit.

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Quick whats the best non-fiction book you've ever read
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>>8634662
My War Gone By, I Miss it So
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>>8634662
l'ancien regime et la revolution
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considerations sur la france
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On Liberty is my favorite.
Practical Ethics is probably a close second though.

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Is it worth the time spent reading this 900+ pages autobiography?

Also, for how much can I sell it? I've seen is a rare book

Thanks in advance.
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MR. CROWLEEEY
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Crowley was an overrated hack piece of shit. I remember reading that when some rival of his sued him, they spent all their time during the court battle attempting to summon demons to attack each other. Fucking spergs.
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>>8634692
>Not casting Circle of Protection: Black during litigation against Mr. Crowley

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...some famous extract from a book/poem/song a couple of times and post the result here, others guess.

>Unfortunately, my love do me wrong to throw me off rudely
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>>8634657
This extract isn't famous but it interested me to try this

>ITS idleness was not hygienic, but it suited him very well. He was as devoted to him, with some inert fanaticism, or rather with a fanatical indifference. Born oo busy parents to live in hardship, which took laziness impulse so drastic HOW AND SO AS imperious inexplicable impulse that directs the man's preference to one particular woman scales a thousand. He was too lazy even for just a demagogue for Worker speaker for the Leader of work. That was too much trouble. It requires a more perfect form of ease; OR it could be that he was victim of a philosophical unbelief in the effectiveness of every human effort. This form of indolence requires, indicates certain amount of intelligence. Mr. Verloc was not devoid of intelligence- IW concept of endangered Social order would probably not blink do Himself, if there was not an effort to make this a sign of skepticism. Its large, protruding eyes were not well suited to do blink. Rather, they were the kind of the One who closes solemnly TO SLEEP majestic effect.
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>>8634683
Would have guessed Oblomov but mr Verlock don't sound right.
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>>8634657
I did not pick well.
>Egyptian sand, alone in silence,
Giants feet away whichis lens
Only the shadow knows the desert -
"I'm a great Ozymandias," Stone said,
King of Kings ", a strong city performance
"My hand is a miracle." - To the city -
Senate, but the foot has not yet revealed
This forgotten Babylon location.

>Interestingly, some of the courier - and Hunter May
>Interestingly, we do, when rescue workers arrived at the scene the desert
Where London stood up, holding the wolf chase,
>Meet some great one, and stop guessing
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once I settle in a place destroyed Miscellaneous

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