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I remember a few months ago a book about the life of a wageslave being mentioned.
What I remember is that the main character basically goes through several wageslave jobs, and shit happens on each of them. Any idea what book this might be?
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Suttree?
Bukowski?
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>inb4 "My Life the book" by Faggot J Anon
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>>8741597
I think it's a newer one
If its not me being retarded I remember seeing a picture with the book cover and I think there were shapes of people in suits on it

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So what are some pros and cons of Audiobooks? I'm prettt new to the /lit/ thing and I for sure prefer a physical book to read, but I still like audiobooks and find them to be good supplements to something I'm reading. I have an Audible subscription but I'm trying to decide if I should cancel it. Also I have a credit on there right now so if you have any reccs of particularly good audiobooks I'll take those too.
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>pros
+don't have to read
>cons
-limited to what is available in audiobook
-takes longer to finish a book
-low comprehension
-not actually reading
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pro: you don't need to know how to read

con: you have to take it in at.. whatever.. pace.. they.. read.. it .. at..

pro: can read it while driving

con: they mispronounce the character's names

con: uses up all of your monthly download limit

con: they turn the reading into a radio play with sound effects, different characters and shitty music
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>>8742568
>con: they turn the reading into a radio play with sound effects, different characters and shitty music
This.

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Could someone redpill me on picrelated? Is it a good survey of any facets of japanese history/culture? Is it a good novel?
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>>8741562
I'm replying to you to because I'm magnanimous. It's a good novel that is fictional but utilized historical events and culture well.
>redpill
Don't ever post this kind of shit again.
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I read it as a kid and, while I wasn't aware of the notion, it did feel exactly like a _dad novel_. But not in the bad, military shlock sense.
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>>8741562
This is the first use of redpill I've heard or seen since the election. I thought we were out of the woods with this shit.

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I want honest opinions from those who managed to complete the entire meme trilogy
Are they truly worth it?
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All should read Ulysses. After reading all the major books of the canon, you should read Gravity's Rainbow. It's not good enough to warrant being read before Joyce, Dante, Virgil, or whomever. Read Infinite Jest only if you are relatively unintelligent but still would like to have a doorstop under your belt. It's really not very good.
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>>8741503
i would literally suck a dick for every person on this board who has read all three with any medium or higher level of comprehension.

mostly cause 1. i love sucking dick anyway and 2. ulysses is next to impossible to comprehend, although its still worth reading compared to the other two.

source; i read half a page of it today at the library and i heard the infinite jest memes and idek what the last ones about but sounds like a joke
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>>8741503
Yes they're all worth the enormous amount of time it takes to read each. Somewhere along the way the ironic dislike for the trilogy gave way to real disdain by those on the board who cannot read. Anyone who says IJ isn't worth the time might be right because a thorough read through takes about two months and it is self indulgent to the max, but it is really fucking good and isnt merely about millennium anomie like many here seem to superficially reduce it to.

I'm talking about literature written in the Irish Gaelic language. Obviously is not as good as Irish-English literature, but is it decent enough? Here's what I want /lit/'s opinion on:

1. Is it any good? How good is it?
2. Are there any works that could possibly compare in terms of quality to good, recognized works in other languages but are not recognized because they are written in Irish Gaelic.
3. Is anything being published right now? Is it good?
4. Can a person hypothetically grow up reading only Irish Gaelic literature? (ie are there enough children's books, teen/young adult books, adult books, etc)
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>>8741457
>4.
If you moved to one of the gaeltachts on the west coast of Ireland, maybe.
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Flann O'brien wrote numerous acclaimed novels in Irish, still never translated
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>>8741457
that picture is grammatically wrong

t. fluent in Irish

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I just watched the banned TEDx talk of Graham Hancock and I admire the guy, so anyone here knows which book of his is the best to start with or if some of his books aren't worth read then which are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0c5nIvJH7w

Also if you guys got some great books on the relation of psychedelic drugs with human consciousness, it's open to be discussed in this thread.
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The Psychedelic Experience by Tim Leary is a fun theory of human consciousness based loosely on the tibetan book of the dead.
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>>8741425

Listen to his most recent appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience. Great interview.
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why was this even banned? They should have allowed it to stay and just let repressive tolerance do its job

Is there such a thing as a living author that writes in the Latin language? I'm learning Latin and 100% is from ancient Roman sources, like Cicero, and it would be interesting to read something written by a living author in Latin.
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>>8741318
There's actually a lot more Latin from early Christianity and the medieval period than from the Classical period. A lot of it would is pretty uninteresting church minutiæ or inane pieties, but there are historians like William of Tyre, theologians like Aquinas, works by Dante, Petrarch (including a nine-book epic on Scipio) &c.
Moreover there were plenty of literary and ecclesiastical and scientific works written in Latin through the eighteenth century. Newton, Calvin, Luther, Erasmus, Bellarmine, Tycho, Galileo- all wrote in Latin. There are countless lyric poems and countless long hexameter epics on the Life of Christ hidden away in dusty archives.
The quantity of post-classical Latin utterly destroys the handful of masterpieces preserved from ancient Rome.
But a most of these would only be found in old books in grand libraries and such. The thing is, education has long been based on the Roman classics- Cicero, Cæsar, Ovid, Virgil- so these are the ones that get repeated over and over, and too few persons read enough Latin nowadays for there to be any interest in the rest of the literature.
There is a bit of post-classical Latin on here if you look at the subsidiary pages: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/
No one really seriously writes in Latin nowadays though, which is a shame. What there is often has the quality of "American manga".
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>>8741366
>No one really seriously writes in Latin nowadays though, which is a shame. What there is often has the quality of "American manga".
That's a shame. There's a few groups trying to revive Latin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_Latin

I'd like to try and help with that one day. I'll read more Latin from the Medieval periods in the mean time; I find the Medieval Ages to be more interesting than the ancient Roman Age, anyway.
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Just search the tubes, there are lots of poets and musicians who create in latin. I think the language is bound to come back eventually now that Internet makes learning easier than ever, if even meme languages like esperanto manage to obtain native speakers

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So I'm deploying soon for a few months, and I want to use my free time to get through the larger books that have been on my shelves for years, was wondering which I should bring out of this pile.

I'm definitely bringing:
Don Quixote
Les Miserables
Dune
LotR 2 and 3
The Histories

I don't know when i'll have enough time to get through a large novel again.
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Some good stuff, take everything but Dracula.
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>>8741547
>no Bram
Epistolary novels are a gimmick, I suppose, though I do enjoy them from time to time, pic related.
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>>8741298
I guess you already have the books but I just got back from a deployment and bought a Kobo right before I left. It was great having way more books than I could have read all loaded on there.

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What are some philosophers who write about the Internet and its impact on the humanity? It doesn't have to be from this decade, but, considering the rise of social media, the more recent texts are, the better.
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Socrates
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Baudrillard.
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>>8741294
This, although he's too Marxist for my tastes.

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Who would win in a fight?
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>>8741204
What's the context? Stirner would kick Diogenes' ass if he went back in time. I assume Diogenes would be imprisoned for public masturbation before the fight if he lived in Stirner's time. The muscle he would build in prison would give him the edge desu.
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>>8741220
Neither is in prison, Stirner just stood in Diogenes' light, Diogenes was just mistaken by Stirner for a spook, both are bloodlusted
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>>8741204

Ancient Greeks were much more built for survival and war, even an emaciated Diogenes would break stirner's glasses.

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I have a lot of question about this book .....has /lit/ read?
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It crossed my mind that perhaps the author of this book was shilling at the time or was this author honest in his intentions for writing?

/lit/, I need you to help me out.

I guess my ontological world views line up with what would supposedly be called a "mereological nihilist". To the question wether essence or existence predates the other, the mereological nihilist says that there is no essence at all, only existence.
Things are things because we call them that, but the things themselves do not actually exist. There are no ontological connections between the parts of a whole object, like the legs and the plate of a table. There are only the legs and the plate, we simply call them "table" when they are arranged in a specific way. (Of course the legs and the plate are also just made up of other, smaller parts, but I just wanted to give a quick example for explanation's sake.)

Now, according to that, the "ship of Theseus" paradoxon can simply be explained away as a purely linguistic one - there was never a ship, just something we arbitratrily called "ship", and we can now choose to call something else "ship" if we feel like doing so.) Linguism however would be awarded existence, by that explanation, and extending from that, I must admit that such a thing as "information" exists. Even when I say that "humans" do not exist, there exists something, a structure of matter, that perceives itself as human. This self-perceiving structure of course is just that, a structure of mass, but that structure is kept intact by constantly exchanging pieces of matter.
So there would be two categories: matter (that physically exists) and information (that is a preserved structure of said matter).

Now I suppose my question is: what do I do with "information" in that ontology? Does it "exist"? Is it neglectable and just a by-product of the existence of matter? How do other materialistic or nihilistic philosophers tackle the issue of information being there despite not physically existing?
Hell, what is information anyway?

Give me some book recs on the subject please (so we can keep this /lit/).
Picture unrelated.
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>>8741150
>I guess my ontological world views line up with what would supposedly be called a "mereological nihilist".

okay
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>>8741166
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come across as edgy as that line seems to be in hindsight.
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>>8741150
>mereological nihilist says that there is no essence at all, only existence

that's not mereological nihilism. mereological nihilism is the belief that there are no composite objects or, in other words, the belief that there are only simple objects (mereology is the study of parts and wholes). so, a mereological nihilist does not believe in tables, but if there are partless physical particles they do believe in those and those might well have essences.

the idea you mentioned is more like sartre's definition of existentialism (that existence precedes essence, at least for human beings).

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ITT: Give a rating out of 10 for the last five book you read.
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Sorry, i don't give numbered ratings, they're pointless and arbitrary.
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>>8741142
Okay
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Savage detectives 7/10
Overrated

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Can somebody give some examples of good philosophical banter? Like, philosophers mocking each other.
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I remember something about the Queen of Sweden naysaying something Leibnitz asserted in his philosophy and he responded with something like "don't worry your pretty little head about it."

Sorry, I tried to find something more specific but didn't.
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Monitoring this thread, academic and high-art bantz are the best
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dialogues

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>tfw no literary squad
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>>8741071
legit bums me out that I'm the only person I know that reads, let alone writes.
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>>8741071
>me on the right
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>>8741077
Same.

Even my smart colleagues read crap.

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