Would you name your daughter Ilias?
If, despite the cosmically small chance of it happening, I reproduce and have a daughter then, no, I wouldn't call her that. I'd call her Alice or something equally cute. Why the hell would you hand out greek names anyway? Greeks are shit.
>>8736789
Oh, I also always thought that if I ever had a daughter, I would like to name her Alice; it's a really cute, yet elegant name! :)
No, I'd call her Sophia or Embla.
Not that i'll ever have kids though.
Post books you think normies should read and why.
I think normies should read The Death of Ivan Ilyich so they might realise how unfulfilling their current lives are and become more introspective. It's also very short so they will be able to get through it.
>>8736557
Iliad so that the constructions of modernity may be lifted from their eyes and the infallible World of God seen.
>>8736557
im reading it and its all about a dude who married unhapply and is dying now. what is this.
>>8736557
>'normie'
You aren't on /r9k/, you fucking loser
I've unconsciously neglected reading during the past two years, so I've decided to read 10 books in 2017.
I haven't read many of the great novels I see in the usual Top 100 lists.
I like clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose like Hemingway's Old Man and the sea. I've also a penchant for overtly violent and horrific stories, like Books of Blood, American Psycho and Stephen King's older novels.
So far I'm interested in:
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Child of God
Blood Meridian
Can anyone recommend any books I might like? Non-fiction is good too.
Also post your 2017 reading lists.
>10 books.
>The only three you listed are short.
>Pleb-tier.
Read the Iliad, The Odyssey, then end with a selection of works from the Russians.
I'll read all of Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, Sophocles, Homer, possibly some Hesiod, Ovid and Joyce.
No wait that's for the end of this year my bad.
>clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose like Old Man and the Sea
Then you don't want to read For Whom the Bell Tolls. Read The Sun also Rises and A Farewell to Arms first, as well as Men without Women or any other short story collection by him. Then check out FWtBT if you're still interested.
That said, Iliad + Odyssey is good, add to that shorter works by Dostoevsky (Penguin double edition of Notes from Underground and The Double would be good).
Then I would recommend Dubliners and Crying of Lot 49 (for something a little different). If you like horror add some Lovecraft (any, really, Shadow over Innsmouth is a good starting point) and Thomas Ligotti. Check out George Saunders' short story collections (Pastoralia, In Persuasion Nation) for something more modern.
Me for 2017:
Some Plato (prob. up to Parmenides)
Some Aristotle (prob. up to Physics)
Dosto's great four
Ulysses
Shake's Sonnets and some plays (Lear and Othello at least)
Some Kant (Critiques)
Some Nietzsche (Tragedy, Gay Science)
Some Heidegger (Being and Time)
Why are the majority of people that like this book pseudo intellectuals?
>>8736457
Because they haven't read it.
Lightweight intellectuals, heard it today.
People like you.
I only read a bit over 2/3s...
I think I missed one of the most important bits but also skipped one of the lamest bits, probably. I'll probably finish it one day.
James Joyce is like the lotr books, a journey.
I've heard that the other book is "better", with some of the same characters.
>BLOOM: (Desperately.) Wait. Stop. Gulls. Good heart. I saw. Innocence.
Girl in the monkeyhouse. Zoo. Lewd chimpanzee. (Breathlessly.) Pelvic
basin. Her artless blush unmanned me. (Overcome with emotion.)
w-what did he mean by this
Why is John 'cuck' Green worshipped on /lit/ ?
It's funny and a bit sad how hard you're trying.
>>8736394
You know the general consensus is negative.
In that pic he's right, you know.
>>8736400
>In that pic he's right, you know.
Few people care about John Green own sex life, if he wants to be a cuck then that's his prerogative, it's just that he expects other people to follow his lead in cuckoldry.
R8 my purchases from the last few months
>>8736316
All that spooky stuff and no Arthur Machen?
>>8736432
Haven't got around to his stuff yet
Any recs?
is pizzolatto worth reading? i liked true detective
Why is nihilism almost always used as a pejorative? If you're a theist, I can understand. But to nonreligious posters, why are you so firm in your conviction against it where you react angrily to any post that hints at it? Along with accusations of adolescence, being edgy, etc. Just because it's offensive to our instincts doesn't make it false.
>>8736310
It is not a constructive way to approach the world.
Inherently negative outlook on life is also a sign of mental illness.
>>8736319
Maybe if you're needlessly pessimistic. I don't think value judgements are necessary to a nihilistc perspective. Another kind of mental illness is delusion. I've been wanting to have a clear picture of the world and my place in it, so I've been reading theology and so on.
I should clarify that I'm only really a nihilist when it comes to morality and the probability of attaining divine, perfect knowledge in this life or the next, since I don't think there's a divine intellect that wants to be known personally, and I don't think there's objective values.
>>8736310
Insecurity, perhaps. But also, because Nihilism is absolute cancer.
>>8736334
The people you refer to aren't going to disagree with you on this. The idea that nothing has an inherent value is not the problem, the idea that nothing can have any value at all is the cancerous part. The only logical conclusion of it is to kill yourself.
What does /lit/ think of this book and this philosophy?
I finished reading the book recently, and to be honest, there are a lot of things that I disagree with a few things that I agree with.
I personally don't like this philosophy and I will probably never follow it, but I think that it is an accurate description of how most people behave.
I do agree that one must care about his/her own interests, but not to the selfish extent described in this philosophy.
There are also a lot of other things that I disagree with.
It's well intentioned but stupid.
>Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Nigga I didn't ask.
>If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
It's not his fault you find him annoying.
>Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
The "mating signal" is a sexual advance. Don't make sexual advances unless someone makes a sexual advance? How the fuck is that supposed to work?
>Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
What if it doesn't belong to anyone
>Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Magic isn't real.
>Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
What is need
>Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
What about all the human animals
>When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
So... never have a conversation when you're out of the house?
>>8736313
Yeah, the book is full of logical inconsistencies and vague statements.
But I also don't like the philosophy itself.
It just fills in the holes of Christianity.
*shrugs*
What is the single most well written book?
>>8736112
Unironically, the Bible.
>>8736127
What book?
>>8736112
The Last of The Mohicans
ITT shitty books lit got you to read.
>>8736023
What's not to love about a MILF fucking young autists?
>>8736027
HOLY... Downloading now.
>>8736029
Inspired by a true story.
/lit/ I told you not to reveal your power levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYoou3genk
I know that guy is full of shit, but I would to have discussions with him.
>So I told him I am going to make human will great again
>I am gonna have untermesnch build it, and there's gonna be the word trump on it written with all gold letters
>>8735858
Hahaha
Anybody hyped to see this modern intellectual debate zizek?
>>8735832
Who are we talking about?
>>8735838
>>8735854
Nice bait purpling Beck and Savage.
To say that 'Everything is relative.', would be making an objective measurement on the supposed relativity of that within the linguistic sphere.
>>8735753
>Not reading Putnam.
>Not knowing that such terms are just shorthand for something more complicated
>Literal autism taking things literally.
OP pls.
>>8735753
What if I say that "Everything is relative" is a subjective statement?
>>8735792
i'd say that subjectivity is lost on the whole my man, ever heard of hegel's zeitgeist?
Sluggish footsteps resonated on the rotting stairs of His Koreatown apartment. Screeching of the rusting grillage, door cracked open, the green stucco peeling off the exterior wall as the flesh of a week old corpse on a blazing summer day. He had to use excessive force to lodge the door back into its unsymmetrical framing. The single room was empty and denuded. It was a sanctuary of darkness; eternal shadows were vainly persecuted by the light being filtered through the broken, lonely window. It was drawing on a scape of fragmented downtown towers ridden by the dying palms of a decaying Los Angeles street. The single room was empty and denuded; for only decoration the outline of a feeble chair and a dark Mirror lynched on the wall. He dropped on the chair. Old wood cracking resounded but the modest throne still beheld Him, proudly opposing the laws of nature, struggling the offensive mass on its unmutilated twigs. The corroded, aging wood, repulsive as the bark of a dying tree was soft and welcome to his abused fingers. Misfortunes drew themselves upon the fingers, Miseries upon the palms and Ephemeral Summers within the aching phalanges. Sitting his silhouette against the window, he contemplated on the uneven, discolored boards, his shade on the ground. Despite the orange glare of an erased street light, his shape was shapeless. His form was formless, his reflection undefined. He stared into the darkness, only to see his stupid eyes returned by the monstrous Mirror. He challenged it with his contemplation. In the monstrous Mirror, he saw:
>>8735731
Luring in the stamina of the campaign, the willows only sifted through a small percentage of the stench of the open sewer main upwind of the conference hall. Many of the staunch citizens approached their seats with a grimace of disgust and a gush of vomit splashing against the back of their throats, wondering what they'll have to agree to that day just to keep their fingers inside. Little did they realize that their hair cuts were in vain, and it was simply an execution of an aboriginal at the expense of the high royal society of Lieught Scleoupo. There was much revulsion at the sight of the blood of the native, which always served to titillate the impressionable revolutionaries, who had so much to prove with so little power to do it, they typically backed down from dissenting parties on a rate of 30% after that, which is tweaked magnificently later on in life when stocks are established to their social security numbers.
>>8735731
Post more, liked it, want to know what happens next
>>8735731
not cringy anon, just a bit of an adjective overload
Opinions on this book /lit/?
>>8735612
>>8735612
I wasn't super into it but overall I enjoyed it
a bit weak in terms of prose but still great