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>Friend asks for a book suggestion

What do you tell them to read, /lit/?
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>>8745631
Depends on who he is and what he wants to read. Some books are universal though. Tell him to read The Old Man and the Sea.
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>>8745631
Infinite Jest so I have someone that isn't an anon on /lit/ to talk about it with
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>>8745639
>Implying it's a "he"
The spooks are strong with you

If I liked McCarthy, will I like Faulkner? No cynical memeing from butthurt Dostoevsky fan girls please. Serious responses only.
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probably not because faulkner is actually good
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>>8745620
Jesus kid, just kill yourself already.
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>>8745605
Try As I Lay Dying

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Is nautical fiction the literature master race?
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idk honestly I prefer more varied settings

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What have you been reading?
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>>8745397
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>>8745399
>Bromance
It's really fucking gay let's be honest
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OC

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>irish writer
>nobody understands what the fuck he's trying to say except other irish cunts
how typical
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>>8745283
*irish coonts
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fuck off

other irish cunts don't get him either
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>>8745307
I'm Irish and get him fully, speak for yourself

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Anyone have recommended reading on the philosophy of altering your state of mind?

Preferably with psychedelics but in general too.
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>>8745227
>Anyone have recommended reading on the philosophy of altering your state of mind?
My diary desu, I am schizophrenic.
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Psychedelics tell you that the Spiritual is only accessible through the Material, which is a lie. You can permanently alter your Mind through contemplation alone. Gnosis - it works.
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Phenomenology of Spirit

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>you will never be a part of any meaningful intellectual discussion which shapes the course of human thought
>you will never attend lectures with your smartly dressed academic friends about how best to proceed with a program of unearthing the human condition
>you will never relax for beers and talk logic and hate metaphysics with your buds
Why do we bother to exist, /lit/
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>member of the Vienna Circle will never be able to shitpost about DFW
They're the ones missing out
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>Wanting to associate with the people who destroyed philosophy and reduced it to a laughing stock
For what reason?
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>>8745171
>how best to proceed with a program of unearthing the human condition

mate, I think you have no idea what the Wiener Kreis as about

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>a critique of
>pseudo-
>post-
And especially jargon like that.
>(In academic Humanities): the French borrowing of -ité's and words turned into plurals, like textualities, tenors, rhythms, geographies (when not applied to land forms), pluralities, modernities, sexualities, ...
>verbs like 'mapping', 'traces', all of these offenders stem from the American academic infatuation with structuralism and the clunky translation of it.
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>>8745063
And general awkward uses of language.
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Lmao this is so autistic...

WHO THE FUCK CARES?
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>ceremonial
>space
>speaking truth to power
>ways of knowing

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So is the essential idea behind a spook that if something is cultural or social construct it doesnt exist?
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>implying anyone has read stirner
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>>8745001
Read Stirner bro.
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>>8745001
Not even remotely, but that's how braindead leftists like to misinterpret the concept

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Does anyone here have an MA or PhD in Lit? How hard was it? What did you work consist of? How hard is it to get a teaching position somewhere afterwards?

t. Undergraduate
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>>8744743

The most challenging thing for many MA/PhD candidates is time management. A lot of this depends on how rigorous your undergrad program was, as well as what opportunities the grad program gives you (fellowship, teaching assistantship, or straight loans). Many new grad students spend that first year trying to learn the expectations and manage their course loads, classwork, and research. If you can do that, writing seminar papers and working on a thesis/dissertation is usually doable.

>Work
Most programs usually have 12cr terms, where you have two graduate courses (lit, theory, rhet/comp, whatever) and thesis hours. You may also be expected to teach 1-3 courses, help in a writing center, or conduct research for a faculty member. This is largely dependent on the program, as well as what kind of offer you receive.

>Teaching
The job market is very saturated. If you love teaching after an MA or PhD, you will likely be adjuncting somewhere (maybe multiple places) for fairly low wages, or accepting a lecturer position (4/4 teaching load) in a town that might not be your first choice. Many of those I know who pursued MAs ended up going back to school for the PhD because it wasn't a terminal degree. A significant amount of folks also pursued careers outside academia, like copywriting.

Source: MFA graduate with many colleagues and friends who did MAs and PhDs. Feel free to ask more questions if you want.
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>>8744822
Thank you!

Is most your time spent on researching your thesis or actually writing it? Are professors usually flexible on thesis topic or do they have strict rubrics? Quality wise, what do professor expect from your final work? (say I'm going to a state school rather than a private Uni)
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>>8744743
Yes. The MA was fairly easy, the PhD was very hard, and there are essentially no tenure-track positions left (over 200 qualified applicants compete for every posting, so unless you're top of the game and well-published before graduation with awards and honors, forget it).
I teach adjunct at two universities now, and have no job security, no benefits, a constantly-changing schedule with no income for months, and make less than a McDonald's manager per year, after over a decade of post-secondary school. So, suit yourself.

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Write your suicide note.
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>>8744316
Why? I am not going to commit suicide any time soon.
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>>8744320
Write the fucking note.
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Back in the old folky days
The air was magic when we played.
The riverboat was rockin'
in the rain
Midnight was the time
for the raid.

Oh, Isabela, proud Isabela,
They tore you down and
plowed you under.
You're only real
with your make-up on
How could I see you
and stay too long?

All along the Navajo Trail,
Burn-outs stub their toes
on garbage pails.
Waitresses are cryin'
in the rain
Will their boyfriends
pass this way again?

Oh, Mother Goose,
she's on the skids
Shoe ain't happy,
neither are the kids.
She needs someone
that she can scream at
And I'm such a heel
for makin' her feel so bad.

I guess I'll call it
sickness gone
It's hard to say
the meaning of this song.
An ambulance can only
go so fast
It's easy to get buried
in the past
When you try to make
a good thing last.

I saw today
in the entertainment section
There's room at the top
for private detection.
To Mom and Dad
this just doesn't matter,
But it's either that
or pay off the kidnapper.

So all you critics sit alone
You're no better than me
for what you've shown.
With your stomach pump and
your hook and ladder dreams
We could get together
for some scenes.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes.
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
'Cause I know it ain't me,
and I hope it isn't you.

Well, I'm up in T.O.
keepin' jive alive,
And out on the corner
it's half past five.
But the subways are empty
And so are the cafes.

Except for the Farmer's Market
And I still can hear him say:
You're all just pissin'
in the wind
You don't know it but you are.

And there ain't nothin'
like a friend
Who can tell you
you're just pissin'
in the wind.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes
How can he remember
who he's talking to?
Cause I know it ain't me,
and hope it isn't you.

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>freshman in university
>have to take third subject
>quite like philosophy, nietzsche and kierkegaard and all that
>decide to sign up for philosophy
>lecturer comes out first day
>tells us that "logic is king"
>spends the rest of the time giving us a lecture about literal neuroscience
>ends up suggesting I don't actually have a mind because science says minds are "spooky"
>mfw when I didn't realize it was an analytic department
>mfw I don't have aspergers

Scary
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>>8744319
Horse looks so comfy
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>>8744322
It really does. If horses could purr this would be their purr face.

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>Reading Baudrillard got me to stop watching porn
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>>8743986

Wow, that's odd. By NOT reading Baudrillard, I still watch porn.

Gay porn, that is. I'm a gay man.
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>>8743991
bloody poofters, you ruined the mainstream perception of poetry
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>>8743996

Proust was gay you fag.

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Worth reading?
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It's worth reading, but it'll drag on because it's so poorly written. Neuromancer is a prime example of "right idea, poorly executed"
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>>8743308
Okay. i'll give it a miss then. Thanks.
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>>8743296
No. It was awful writing, boring characters, 80s action movie plot and is 200 pages too long for what it offers.

Why the hell are houses so hard to describe?

>"It was a sort of gothic mansion. It had three levels, and the third level was like a pointy tower, with a circle of windows at the top. The second level, there were endless curves with the architecture. It was green, and there was a pointy rail. On the first level there were doors. Then there was a garden on the ground."

How do I write houses srsly, it's almost as hard as writing clothes.
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Ever read Gormenghast? A good example of describing gothic places, but the idea comes through.

Eg:
"Over their irregular roofs would fall throughout the seasons, the shadows of time-eaten buttresses, of broken and lofty turrets, and, most enormous of all, the shadow of the Tower of Flints. This tower, patched unevenly with black ivy, arose like a mutilated finger from among the fists of knuckled masonry and pointed blasphemously at heaven. At night the owls made of it an echoing throat; by day it stood voiceless and cast its long shadow.”

In short, describe its effect and the feel you get from the place, not specifics.
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>>8743227
You know you don't need to give readers a perfect image to run off?
Let them project their own image of architecture based on everything else you told them about the area and people
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Why do you need to describe what the house looks like?

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