thoughts on pic related? i read 'never let me go' by him
bonus question: is he a better writer than his japanese comrade haruki murakami?
>>8740974
>is he a better writer than his japanese comrade haruki murakami?
Yes
>>8740974
He looks like HHH but a jap
>>8740974
Ishiguro is British not Japanese
How do you deal with the opportunity cost of reading? There's probably some fitting quotes describing this but as I have gotten older, I haven't been able to read anything remotely lowbrow for ages without feeling like I have wasted my time not continuing exploring the Western Canon.
I look back at stuff I enjoyed reading in the past and wish that I had spent those pages on 'better' works, but at the same time feel that I shouldn't limit myself so much and have my book choices be guilt-based
Anyone else feel this way? Have you ever found a happy medium between the two?
Hope I understood you correctly. My strategy goes like this (only applies to intellectual books):
>if book is widely read
>high probability of me coming into contact with it due to interaction with other people or by reading other books
>thus in general not worth reading
This approach goes directly against /lit/'s philosophy.
>>8740979
Forgot, when I need to understand something better then only then, will I consider reading it myself.
Are you reading to impress others or for your own joy/betterment? That should answer your question.
ITT: Cool facts about authors
Ernest Hemingway survived through anthrax, malaria, pneumonia, dysentery, skin cancer, hepatitis, anemia, diabetes, high blood pressure, two plane crashes, a ruptured kidney, a ruptured spleen, a ruptured liver, a crushed vertebra, a fractured skull, mortar shrapnel wounds, three car crashes and bushfire burns.
Ginsberg blew Burroughs, Cassady, and Kerouac.
>>8740949
Those blowjob lips though.
>>8740949
lol
What's the best foreign language to learn purely for reading purposes?
Italian.
Spanish. The literary scene in Latin and South America is one of the few literary scenes that still has a pulse.
Russian
Can anyone direct me to an academic book about what poetry is?
Google just gives me children's school work.
If you want to tell me not to ask this question, I'd be happy to hear you tell me not to ask this question.
then try an academic search like on jstor or a library database
A lot of people here recommend (or used to recommend) Frye's "The Ode Less Travelled."
I've not read it, but I imagine it's decent.
Personally, I recommend Cleanth Brooks's "The Well Wrought Urn."
>>8740896
Uh, Aristotle's Poetics?
>ah, once again my enemies have set up a trap for me
>I can't let them know I looked through their diabolic plan
>I guess I just pretend I know nothing about it and walk right into it without any precaution whatsoever
Why, Frank?
>>8740861
>Leto
Because Herbert is a shitty writer
>>8740871
Both of them in fact.
I've been looking for books about US foreign policy in the 21st century but all I could find were collections of cherry picked anecdotes, angry ramblings about the immoral behavior of the CIA and wacky oil/drugs conspiracy theories.
It's not that I don't believe that international relations don't leave a large room for shady back dealings, it's just that I'm looking for something with an analytical approach to american diplomacy with its connection to internal and economic factors at home that's free of moral indignation and the like.
Any recommendations? Pic not so much related.
>>8740836
>Any recommendations?
No. All I can think of:
Avoid journalists, search for historians.
>>8740839
Well then are there any historians you would recommend? Doesn't have to be that related
>>8740836
Henry Kissinger - World Order
Ahmed Rashid - Descent into Chaos: The United States & the Failure of Nation Building in Pakistan, Afghanistan & Central Asia
This list might be helpful
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/11730.American_Foreign_Policy#3024831
Some of it is 20st stuff but you shouldn't let that discourage you - Diplomacy is a long term game, so it'll be good to understand the policy changes of the last 30 years.
Would it be confusing to read Ulysses without having read the odyssey or illiad? I have read Edith Hamilton's "Mythology", and have read a lot of plato's dialogues, the symposium, and am reading the republic right now, so I understand a lot of what happened in the poems, I just haven't read them.
Also, is it ok to read two books at the same time in /lit/'s opinion? I just have been reading a lot of plato and I want to continue reading plato, and then aristotle, but I am also interested in books like Ulysses, infinite jest, etc.
>>8740808
Depends. Have you read James Joyce's other books? and have you read Hamlet?
>>8740808
Why would you want to read some ex-Catholic fart-fetishit's third book instead of the Divine Word?
>>8740808
Honestly, uylsses is so dense that even if you read all the books you're supposed too (hamlet, Odyssey, portrait, etc ...) You'll still probably miss somethings. Just jump in and read the book, and maybe come back to it in six months for a reread. I think you'll get more out of reading it again than doing any homework.
Although you should really read the Odyssey, hamlet, and portrait as they are all great books
I dont understand poetry!
It's just a bunch of unnecessarily complicated sentences strung together, with no plot or characters
Well, I guess you're just a fucking idiot, dude.
>>8740800
>no plot or characters
>>8740805
Either this, or OP just hasn't even tried (which may be a product of OP being an idiot). Read some haiku poetry (Basho, Ikkyu, Ryokan), then Shakespeare, then find an anthology of poetry and you should be fine.
Why has he so fucking devilish?
Gay sex does that to you.
Verlaine.
>>8740771
Why has he so cute, CUTE!
Is this good for writing?
>>8740764
It's a little old but it's filled with fine advice and info. Most of the tips are variations on "write clearly and briefly," so all the /lit/ babbies hate the book and think writing should be about showing off your large vocabulary.
dude kill your darlings lmao
>>8740764
Its a useful tool.
It will make you a better writer, but it won't make you a good writer. It's mostly sentence composition and grammar.
Is he a good read?
>>8740704
Very
t. Definitely not Nick Land
>>8740704
>Is he a good read?
You need to check. First a question:
>Does it conform to your beliefs?
If yes, the verbose language won't bother you. If no, the verbose language will bother you.
Alternative question:
>Do you think verbose and cryptic language sounds highly intelligent?
If yes, you would find it a good read, but might still disagree with the message (which in turn could lead to you thinking it was a bad read however).
Seriously, I hold the belief that someone could have the most genius revelations while writing in indecipherable langauge, but the likelihood that is unnecessary and the message could be brought in much less words and much simpler words, is so incredibly high that I won't bother with it since I want to read many more books.
Such language does seem to have some cultish effects on a small but fanatic group of readers, think Nick Land, think Derida and so forth.
>>8740774
>Such language does seem to have some cultish effects on a small but fanatic group of readers, think Nick Land, think Derida and so forth.
Can you expand on this?
member when DFW an hero'd
>>8740619
>white race
lmao
You also have no idea what liberalism is.
What would /lit/ be like if he hadn't?
>>8740615
The technical term is an Hemingwayed
Ulysses, Finnegans Wank, Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jest - what is the opposite of this?
The largest portal opened with the least amount of words and no conventions broken? Phrases like "hierarchy is celestial" or "truth is only spoken in silence" can make one ponder for years. Are there whole books written like this? The Corpus Hermeticum? Anything else?
>>8740606
I think the new Harry Potter is coming out soon
>>8740606
Meme here is synonymous with popular, or, something regarded as being much better quality only because it's more popular. More extreme meme examples are highly commercialized lit like Stephen King. I think most people who use it on here for IJ/GR/Ulysses are just a bit cynical because they have been to up their own ass with their status quo idea of what literature/art should be, and God forbid someone do something different in an artistic field where supposedly creative people work.
>>8740625
Can it be different without being convoluted/Dadaist?
You have ten seconds to post a lit-related lyric that comes to mind.
>In this sea of lonely
>The taste of ink is getting old
Now she's a little boy in Spain, playing pianos filled with flames.
>>8740592
sorry, i only listen to popol vuh, tangerine dream, and com truise.