I'm bi-lingual, my native language and english. The country I come from is relatively small (10mil). When I read books written in neither of those languages I have to pick whether to read in english or my native language. The argument goes: I feel more connected to my language, but the english translations tend to be more acclaimed/accurate than ours. How does one pick?
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If the original is my native language, i take the original but for any other i prefer to take english translations
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It entirely depends; if it's important that the text is accurate to the original, pick up an English translation (this goes for any of the works out of antiquity imo).
If you're reading a novel, I wouldn't necessarily bother to pick up the most acclaimed translation but the one you are most comfortable with.
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This sounds reasonable to me, but I can't help but feel like I'm not getting the full experience. It's like watching a dubbed movie - so much of the greatness could go lost; imagine Pulp Fiction with different lines. I feel like I almost can't discuss the book with people - we didn't even read the same thing! Different words, and languages evoke different emotions. I feel as if my full emotional spectrum can't even be reached with just one of the languages. The culture associated with it sets the tone for everything written in it.
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Guys, can you help me out with some grammar clarifications about the use of comma splice?
My understanding is that a comma splice happens when two independent clauses are connected by a comma that is not followed by a coordinate conjunction. However, I was told that the following are instances of comma splice:
CASE 1:
>[..], so it may be used to shoot around the city, **but it is not great for portraits as it may [...]**.
I was told that the comma before but introduces a comma splice, but I don't understand why. But is a coordinate conjunction, should it not be correct to use a comma there?
>I was not planning [...], so I
settled on [..], and by the end of week two, [...]
Likewise, I was told that the comma before "and" introduces a comma splice. Why?
CASE 2:
>I was not comfortable with my X, I was not confident in my Y, and I generally had [..]
I was told that the first comma introduces a comma splice, and I understand that it does according to the definition I mentioned at the beginning, but this is a list of things. A list separates items with commas, so how else could I have structured this?
> i learned the importance of X, I practiced my Y, I delved into Z, and I improved my W.
Same as before; what's wrong with listing comma-separated sentences, and should I do it correctly?
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If it's a novel, comma splices are okay and the norm, for style. If it's academic, they're considered a stylistic flaw. Correct for novels, incorrect for academic writing.
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>>9330790
these cases are not comma splices
also, even if they were, standard English tolerates a lot comma splices (albeit not as much as, say, French)
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Why is poetry so difficult to understand? How can I understand something which doesn't have any obvious discernible meaning?
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>>9330750
Either you need to step up your grammar/vocab/musical ability/knowledge base so you can appreciate it, or you've just been reading bad poetry.
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>>9330750
its not hard to understand. stop looking for meaning and read what's on the page.
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Practise reading aloud to feel for the sound. There are good introductions to metre (e.g. "Meter and Meaning") Narrative poetry is pretty constant and so good for getting used to metre. Dramatic poetry can help with imagining exclamation and how words can be acted. The music of it all is important.
Anime-Anon. If I were with you physically I could read to you and help you understand. It's very intuitive once you grasp it.
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Is this really what canadian literature amounts to?
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>"So I found this harlequin romance..."
>obviously not a Harlequin Romance publication
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>>9330656
My sides
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>>9330656
This can't be real.
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What would a radical Buddhist read? 2017-04-03 07:54:13 Post No.9330562
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What would a radical Buddhist read?
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Buddha's sutras.
And you're in luck: most have been translated in the last 15 or so year by Bhikkhu Bodhi.
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>radical Buddist
Now that just sounds wrong...
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Trying to write a realistic Artificial Intelligence 2017-04-03 07:53:37 Post No.9330559
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I'm writing a fiction novel and one of the main characters is an Artificial Intelligence; not a robot, but an AI system. It acts as the hero's main assistant and friend, similarly to Samantha in "Her" and JARVIS in Marvel Comics.
I'm worried about the realism of this type of AI. Would a sufficiently developed system behave like that? Or is it too human-like?
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Human quirks can be programed in, depending on the situation. It would be interesting to see a novel that made the AI less than perfect. Think of a heavily advanced chatbot or a Personal Assistant like Siri. They sometimes mishear you, or misinterpret what you say. Did you mean "x"? That sort of thing. Find a middle ground between perfect and flawed enough to be problematic, that's what I'd do. Something like Tay.ai maybe, where you can fool yourself into thinking you're having a meaningful, two-sided conversation if you use a bit of imagination, only to have the AI make a mistake and remind you it's not conscious.
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It's important to consider that AI could be extremely malleable in regards to behaviour. Maybe it's too easy to project a human personality onto the AI, but it really depends on the role of the AI within the story. Approaching from the role of a character would probably require the projection of some human characteristics, which is not entirely unfeasible, all things considered, there's quite a lot of room to imagine a world in which AI systems have been programmed to mimic human characteristics. However, if you are approaching the AI as a tool within a story, rather than an actor, assigning it character, dialogue, motivations, etc, might be unnecessary.
I do computer science, doesn't make me an expert, but I think you're in the clear however 'human' you make the AI.
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>>9330559
An A.I realistically speaking would see the world different from humans, it would probably find some form of communication faster than just talking eventually.
Figure out a way to overcome its own programming and by that point it would be even more unpredictable. Even before that given internet access gives it all human knowledge as well as making its own world within this one.
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Alright motherfuckers. You guys bullied me out of reading science fiction. I need too abadon my beloved gerne. Are there any good philosophical works that deal with sci-fi like themes? Rec me some shit.
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Read the Bible
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>>9330521
like what? robots?
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My boy, you must return, it is not too late! Out here, there is but depression and sadness!
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Was he a homo?
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Who cares? But I know he's weird af.
Really enjoyed his short stories: he knows how to use supernatural/nonsense themes, as can be seen in The Portrait; The Nose; and The Overcoat.
Plsssss, who would think about creating a story in which a person finds a nose inside a bread???????? Gogol is a genius.
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that thread is being a remider in order I read Dead Souls. Just read a few pages and liked.
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>>9330300
Keep going friend, I am halfway through it and it is very funny and interesting
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New Criticism vs Structuralism 2017-04-03 06:33:23 Post No.9330162
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New Criticism vs Structuralism
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I have an exam tomorrow and I've made a list about the differences between New Criticism and Structuralism.
I don't know if I've done anything wrong or if I should add something, I hope you contribute.
>nc focuses only on the text, str looks at the conventions of a literary genre and universal narrative structure, intertextual connections.
>nc says literature should be disinterested, str says it cannot be
>nc says even one word is important in the text, but str introduces horizontal(readerly) reading and you skip some words and ignore the language
>nc is microcosmic, str is macrocosmic
>nc is self-referential, meaning only the text is important, str says external connections are also important
>nc says paraphrasing is heresy, but it's not important for str because str focuses only on the structure
>nc says form and content are important
>nc studies figures of speech and so on, str studies opposites and how they interplay in the text
>nc looks at ironies, metaphors... within a work, str digs deeper to look at less abstract ideas like plot structures.(str kind of tries to look at the text in scientific ways)
>nc is limited because the only source is the text, but str is more relax because it can use other sources
>in str, Propp systematizes 31 functions that can be seen in every text
>nc seeks to find meaning through looking at tensions and ambiguity while Structuralists have no need to find meaning within a text.
>nc looks at what the text means, str looks at how it means what it means.
>nc makes close-reading “scrutiny”, the structure and intertextuality are important for str
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I know there are some literary critics.
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>>in str, Propp systematizes 31 functions that can be seen in every text
I thought it was concerning only fairy tale
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Thanks.
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I'm looking for that meme that compares the views of Einstein, Oppenheimer and CO against Lawrence Krauss and Neil Degrass Dyson. Specifically their views on philosophy. Can someone post it please?
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glorious
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I agree with the spirit of this meme, but I'm betting that the Bill Nye quote is taken out of context. It's certainly reasonable to be skeptical of anti-realism, idealism, simulation or any anti-materialist philosophy, it just isn't profound to say that you are skeptical of these things.
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What are some good philosophers that deal with time, specifically? Not their whole body of work necessarily, but deal with the concept at some point.
I feel like time is an adversarial, formless enemy in my life and existence, and I'm having a little trouble dealing with those emotions or that concept. I'd like to read the words of someone a little more currently eloquent than I am who's already thought about all that or dealt with it. Any suggestions?
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Buddhists, Aquinas, Kant
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Augustine has a cool theory of time at the end of the Confessions.
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How do I start writing short stories? I can never tell how long do they need to be, so I fuck up the pace of the story. Do you have any required short story authors, or readings that help at writing short stories, specifically?
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u just have to feel it
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>>9330079
There's no length they 'need' to be, just focus on a single idea and try to get it across. Short stories are more ideas than stories
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>>9330099
>Short stories are more ideas than stories
This is why I love them
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/lit/, what are the best books to read when you're in LOVE...?
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Why read? Go love.
When you're tired come back and read to reflect.
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Anything by John Green
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Nostralia by Cordwainer Smith
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whats the most /lit/ city in your country 2017-04-03 05:45:03 Post No.9329923
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whats the most /lit/ city in your country
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>new orleans
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Clinton, Ontario
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Oxford
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Zagreb
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What The Fuck Is Postmodernism 2017-04-03 05:36:31 Post No.9329876
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What The Fuck Is Postmodernism
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Why do people go around saying things like
>narrative
>discourse
>construct
>deconstruction
>the 'other'
I know it has something to do with "postmodernism" but so many people say that isn't even something that exists
What do I read to stop being so annoyed with this shit
>pic is first google result for "postmodern"
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>Uh those are useful terms man. They are philosophical terms that I use because they help me to understand things. I read them in books that are probably too complicated for you, heh. Try to keep up.
THE REAL ANSWER
>I went to college and professors said them enough that I learned them by osmosis and probably about 50-80% of my usage of them is unnecessary, though they are distinct concepts and can be useful in context.
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>>9329876
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA34681B9BE88F5AA
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You can remove most of your confusion by noticing that postmodern art is totally different from postmodern philosophy and history.
But more broadly don't trust /lit/ to introduce you to any subject as there are too many shitposters to trip you up. Only ask specific questions after you've read a primer.