Who had the most interesting suicide in history?
>>25790
Actually this, at least for recent history.
Do you mean people who were forced into it by social norms/political requirements like Antony, or ones who truly wanted to end their life?
Hey /his/! Sorry if this seems like /mu/, but given its nature I thought you guys might be interested in a thread like this. I'm wondering, are there any pieces of music from any previous historical era you guys really like? I've found myself with a big soft spot for Civil War songs. "Weeping Sad and Lonely" gets me every time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9nEpDhL0g
Tenting Tonight also gives me a case of heartache:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oixO-Tl0LTU
How about you guys? Any music tied to a particular historical moment really resonate with you?
There's a bunch of songs from when The Dutch opposed the Spanish Philip II. The most famous one is of course the current anthem "Het Wilhelmus". Apparently, the melody comes from a Spain Catholic soldiers' song titled "Autre chanson de la ville de Chartres assiégée par le prince de Condé" (English: "Another song about the city of Chartres under siege by the Prince de Condé"). This song dates to the Protestant siege of Chartres in 1568 during the French Wars of Religion. [From Wikipedia].
I've found the melody in a variety of contemporary sources, such as in the Dutch lute composer Nicolas Vallet, in his 'Le Secret des Muses' (http://imslp.org/wiki/Secret_des_Muses_(Vallet,_Nicolas) book II, page 26 (PDF:30)) This b)
This book is published in 1616-1618, meaning the composer was an 'Orangist', supporting the family of Orange as being the royal family.
He also wrote music on the Vater Unser melody by Luther, from which we can conclude he was also a Lutheran protestant.
I am still trying to find out which strophes of the text go with the music, though.
>>27295
Cool! I've never really listened to much Dutch music, maybe I should start.
Our old anthem (still used by the Slovene armed forces, though): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urg7cpp4eNQ
So /his/ is for discussion of humanities but they have to be historic.
Philosophy is discussed on /his/ but cannot be political.
/lit/ is now for literature as long as it doesn't concern law philosophy religion philosophy or anything else.
Am I missing something or is it a very spooky halloween around here?
>>25652
The ideal is to allow some overlap on all three boards. While they can share the same topics, the conversations all have a separate focus to them. That is to say that you can discuss politics on all three boards, so long as the conversation falls within the context of the board's subject. Adding a third board too the mix is an attempt to refine the conversations had on the other boards, while also opening up a new place to discuss those topics with a new contextual lense.
Of course, that is to say
>implying that the mods won't just b& everyone on every board for just talking about shit
>>26321
>The ideal is to allow some overlap on all three boards
No, fuck off back to /lit/.
Crossboarding is cancer
>>26351
If you really think that boards exist, or CAN exist, with zero overlap, then you've been very sheltered.
>what is cognitive dissonance
Can we have a general recommendation thread for tv series and films based on historical events, or set in certain historical periods?
My recommendation is pic related. 95 episode action/drama about the greatest civil war in Chinese, or perhaps world history. Most expensive television series ever produced in China as well.
Sharpe is still the best though.
The Last Kingdom
Black Sails
Marco Polo
Game Of Thrones (^8
>>25698
Oh thank god, someone else liked Marco Polo. I thought I was alone.
How many of you actually have a humanities degree?
History and Politics reporting in.
>Inb4 that minority autistic STEM people come in and start going on about 'muh jobs'
muh jobs
Art History and Finance here.
Best deal of my life.
Why would I get a job in something I enjoy?
I went for Comp Sci because it is in demand, but history is my passion.
Who's the best dictator?
Objectively Tito despite his success being short lived.
Currently? This gentleman right here.
>>25404
No map thread? One job /his/.
>>25315
>/gsg/
We relevant now?
>>25315
Where is /twg/?
I hope it ends up more like /lit/ than /int/ or /pol/. Keeping the flags would have been a disaster.
If the Mongols had successfully landed on Japan, do you think they could have conquered the island?
Yes.
Although the japanese had skillful archers and horse archers, they could not have matched the mongol feint/fake retreat tactic.
>>25202
They'd probably have the run of the central islands (which is a large plain. Cavalry country), but Japs will have holdouts in the mountains. Not that Mountains stopped Mongols.
Furthermore Japanese have very primitive fortifications at the time-resembling so those shouldn't be a problem
Also hello Thailand, you keep shitposting that picture in /int/
Originally, Japan was militarism country.
So it has not been changed at all.
For the past several years, I've on and off been researching ancient Slavs. However, the records which I can find in English are few and far in between. Can anyone here recommend me some books in English or their native language (translated) about the Ancient Slavs, their religion, social structure, physical appearance and other facts relating to the Early Slavs pre-separation into west, east and south Slavic tribes?
>>25186
Here are some things I found:
http://survincity.com/2010/10/ten-commandments-of-moral-ancient-slavs/
Pic is approximated appearance of ancient Slavs.
>>25219
http://www.ancient.eu/Slavs/
http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/slavic-mythology.php
>>25186
Oh, it's an extremely tough thing to do. The problem here is that there's fuckall we actually know, main reason for that being that Slavic culture was not that advanced by then, so it got very easily assimilated/incorporated into Christian tradition.
As far as, say, Eastern Slavs go, we don't even know their fucking pantheon. One of the only well-known sources, for example, is the chronicle about Prince Volodymer's pagan reform, and nobody actually knows which logic was the foundation in restructuring the gods. Some say it's just ones he liked the most.
In other words, you're left with researching indirect evidence in stuff like folklore or language history if you really want to learn the truth. If you don't, you end up with pic related and other types of historical schizophrenia.
We made it brothers. I was starting to lose faith that we'd ever see /his/ on 4chan.
Dumping some of my from my vast collection of battles/crusade depictions, historical flags, maps etc. Feel free to join in.
>also tfw missed the initial shitposting
>based Archimedes in everyone's favourite Punic war siege.
>>24975
>>25009
What happened?
They were once the pinnacle of human civilization, and now they literally shit in the streets.
What went so wrong?
Caste system makes sure innovation is suppressed as only the opinion of the selected individuals will ever be heard.
>>24756
>overpopulation (this is the big one)
>failed socialist government "five-year plans"
>too much bureaucracy and red tape
>they were prevented from industrializing under the British
>adoption of democracy in areas where the locals were not ready
We all shit in the street before industrialization. Most of the world shat in the street seventy years ago. I regularly piss on the street, because I live in a small rural community. So?
I've been to India. I saw no one shitting on the street. I did see people shitting near the railway though, but nowhere near as many people walk on the railway. It's poverty, stupid. They were virtually enslaved by their own caste system, national divisions and European imperialism invited in for the purpose of sheer greed -- self interest at the expense of another here being the first cause of their own misery. Secondly, they became independent at a time when Socialism was really in vogue, and we all know how that ends up.
Ever since they've been moving towards free trade, things have been looking up. They will surpass China one day, undoubtedly sooner than you would think.
ITT: Favorite historical figures and why they interest you.
Gen. Rommel
He was admired by Allied generals but Axis generals hated him because of his nontraditional tactics. I think he is one of the last true strategic masterminds and honorable military figures. Plus it's always interesting how people react when they find out not all "Nazis" were bloodthirsty jew-haters
>>24753
>Rommel
Babby's first historical interest
>>24796
>you like a famous person not somebody referenced only once by an English monk
Most overrated Nazi general ever. I was pretty taken in by his reputation myself, until I bothered to do more reading and realized he's really not that impressive of a general.
Random /his/ image dump. Funny/interesting/maps/infographics go go go
This picture being the face of the board is going to cause strife and anger until it is removed. My feelings on him aside, I think we should choose a more universally accepted face for the board. A poet, a philosopher, an archaeologist, a musician, or many other options would cause less controversy than a general who lead a particularly death/rape filled march.
>>24705
According to the American media, the opinions and feelings of Southerners can be safely disregarded. Anyway, most of them are spineless. Look how easily they took their flags down. They deserve to be spat on.
This man
>>24751
Your fellow Americans (assuming you're American) do not deserve your disrespect. Grant would be ashamed of how quickly Northerners are to shame Southerners.
What does /his/ think about the Tank Man?
Was he justified?
>communist China
Allies not backing the Nationalist Chinese forces in China was a mistake.
>>24606
>Allies not backing the Nationalist Chinese forces in China was a mistake.
That sort of backing meant treating Chinese as expendable hordes of cannon fodder to soak up 30+ divisions of the IJA. You can understand when people realized that either being canon fodder or starving to death was a bum deal.
>>24565
Standing up to the commies? Hell yea he was... he's probably dead tho. If you need to use tanks against your people, you're doing something wrong... interestingly enough, a similar thing happened in the usa during the 20s or 30s... I can't quite remember it's been a while since I read about it... but a bunch of ww1 vets weren't paid for their service and they protested in Washington, and they got tanks turned on them.