We always discuss Great Man history and military history. How about something different for a change.
Anyone feeling the mood to discuss agricultural and social history?
Is there a correlation between the grain and cereal crops of the Americas and the technological development of the native populations?
I hate to sound too Guns-Germs-And-Steel, but I do have to wonder if the reason the Native Americans didn't develop the mechanical expertise of Europe and China is that they had corn instead of wheat or rice. Or something like that.
>>492009
But corn, potato, peppers, etc. are much more efficient crops to farm which would have helped sustain a larger population.
Old world population skyrocketed after new world crops were introduced and implemented on old world farming communities.
>>491989
>Anyone feeling the mood to discuss agricultural and social history?
Significantly it is about relations of production, compare the Serb's land redistribution to the static English monestaries.
I suppose this question could be posted on /tv/ but that is literally the worst board ever so im posting it here.
How much do you care about historical accuracy in blockbuster movies? I can understand it bothering people in a movie like Anna Karenina or Braveheart, but personally i fucking love 300 despite the massive inaccuracies.
Also how accurate is pic related?
>>491907
>Also how accurate is pic related?
No turtle ships.
Mostly never but there's some stuff I get annoyed at. Roads that looks like car have used them and modern wheat.
I care about historical accuracy to the extent the movie attempts to represent itself as telling a real story, and how much of it's emotional resonance is dependent on that fact.
Also, you get some leeway when actually constructing a story, rather than being lazy, like sticking LCVs in Robin Hood, or everything that happened in Valkyrie.
Looking at America today it's surprising how much Marx got right about the future of industrial societies:
>Productive forces being suppressed by productive relations
>Alienation
>Increased concentration of wealth by the few accompanied by the impoverishment of many
And yet Americans are still among some of the most opposed people to Marx's theories in the world.
Why?
>>490041
Marx didn't think about how capitalists would defend themselves and their capital, nor did he provide a better alternative.
>>490041
Because this
>>Increased concentration of wealth by the few accompanied by the impoverishment of many
hasn't happened, and likely will never happen. Marx was fundamentally hampered by the misunderstanding in economics inherent in the LTV that he worked with: wealth is not static, and can be generated in ways that don't involve the stealing of it from others.
So while it's true that the tippy top rich have enorsmously more than the poor do, and you can argue that as an overall slice of the total wealth pie, they've increased their share, in terms of actual, personal wealth, even the bottom strata of society are moving up.
"Poverty" no longer means, in a first world country at any rate, that you sit in a gutter, wondering whether you'll starve or freeze first.
>>490070
Get a load of this jew
ITT: Historical events Hollywood will never bother making a movie out of.
>>487938
Do you have autism or are you just illiterate?
Read the OP. This isn't a Bosnian war thread, friendo.
>>>/trash/
>>487917
Japanese internment camps in America
You are God.
You are Omnipotent. Paradox free.
What is the most fucked up, mind bending thing you can do?
exist while not existing
alternatively, not exist while simultaeously existing
though god is beyond the dichotomy kek
>>486059
I reveal a religion to some desert genitalia mutilating fucks.
making rape morally good
Anyone care to discuss various things they were lied to/mislead about regarding history at school?
How accurate would you rate your upbringing with regards to historical events?
Personal examples (these still baffle me)
>Romania is the oldest country in Europe
>Nothing noteworthy happened to Canada's indigenous populations
>Napoleon Bonaparte didn't exist, he was just a disney character (wtf?)
I graduated in 2014.
>>483149
>Napoleon Bonaparte didn't exist, he was just a disney character (wtf?)
More details on this.
>>483149
>There was a global flood
>Marshal Plan rebuild Germany
It's hilarious how much of our history lessons sucked Uncle Sam's dick.
Question:
What is the policy of Christians on considering what is and is not idolatry?
I only ask because I often see statues like pic related in churches. It doesn't really make sense to me how you can put a statue with a explicit depiction of a man who you believe is the embodiment of god at the forefront of your place of worship, and say that you have not created an idol. It just causes some confusion to non-Christians.
>>482488
to put it extremely simply, you have to worship the object itself as a God for it to be an idol in most none protestant churches.
I think that idea refers to non-christian related idols. Things which might draw your worship away from a depiction of Christ.
>>482500
But the Jews for example, practice it as if you even so much as look at an image of SOMETHING while praying, you're practicing idolatry. I believe that most Greeks and Egyptians didn't think that their statues were actual gods, but they are thought of as idolators.
I guess my question is, why did this practice come about? When? And why is idolatry so important to Christians when they have abandoned about 95% of the other Old Testament commandments?
>worst
>best
>most underrated
>most overrated
>personal favorite
>the one who would be into anime the most
> inb4 edgelords shitting on my nigga FDR
>>470981
>>worst
WW
>>best
Jackson
>>most underrated
Nixon
>>most overrated
Reagan
>>personal favorite
Teddy
>>the one who would be into anime the most
Carter
>>470985
youre presidentfu a shit
t. japanese
Popular Opinion thread!
History is boring.
Hitler wasn't a very nice guy.
It's in the past. It's all irrelevant now!
the ottoman sultanate was the continuation of the byzantine empire which was a continuation of the roman empire
modern turkey is the new roman republic!
t.mahmood
Roman """Empire""" lasted barely 500 years.
Chinese Empire 4000+.
>>490584
lol no, it didn't.
>>490600
Xia dynasty was founded 2000 years BC.
this is clearly not a bait thread
I know Charles Darwin never said this, but how true is this quote about Africa? Did sub Saharan African never build anything other than huts?
>>489183
>Africans never mined Diamonds.
Why the fuck would they? It is a shiny rick with absolutely no practical value.
Are we seriously judging a culture on whether or not they have the exact same culture as us to the point that they need to believe a rock in the ground with zero use needs to be mined, just like we believe for some reason.
>>489183
>Why the fuck would they? It is a shiny rick with absolutely no practical value.
Diamonds have tons of practical uses but even then, they've started using them industrially in the 70's or something like that.
They "contributed" AIDS, Ebola and many deadly Plagues too.
ITT: Historical quotes
"No gods, no masters."
'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.'
"THE BEGINNING & END OF THE LAND, THE BEGINNING & END OF THE OCEAN: EVERYTHING ENDS & BEGINS AT THE BEACH."
>>481553
Were is this shit from?
What is the most recent army that the Romans could beat? I was watching Kingdom of Heaven which is set in the 1100s and I really don't see why Crassus' legions couldn't beat the Knights Templar. Nobody was wearing plate in the film all they have over the Romans is the stirrup and maybe crossbows.
>>486695
Plate armor wasnt a thing for next few centuries
>>486695
I assume you mean the Late Republic legions since you mentioned Crassus. The answer is whoever can match the Romans discipline and/or catch them at their weakest. Technology wise isn't nearly as important since per se, but it would give the Romans an edge since they have manufactories to supply their legionaries a lot better than any medieval army in the high middle ages.
>>486801
but muh lancers and longbows
Did the samurai ever fight non-Japanese in any significant way?
Not usually into military history, but the samurai are often held up in the media as the "ultimate warrior". But weren't they still using swords/bows when the rest of the world used guns? Didn't Japan only become a world power when they modernized?
I hate to ask history channel-tier questions, but would they have been comparable to other warriors of their time form different cultures (European, Chinese, middle eastern)? Were they actually exceptional warriors or is the "muh warrior society" media hype?
>>486602
Invasion of Korea 1592 (give or take a few years)
Later on the Chinese joined in and it became something of a stalemate.
Besides that they were hired in large-ish numbers by various European factions and other Asian countries such as Thailand.
>>486602
They fought the Mongols and they got rekt until saved by a storm. The ultimate warrior thing is a total meme, they were basically Native Indian warriors but with better technology in that they were obsessed with ritualism and single person combat. These are not good traits to have when facing Europeans or Central Asians.
>>486602
>Formally
Koreans.
Mongols.
That one tussle with the Jurchens in the 1590's in Korea.
Yuan & Ming Chinese.
Burmese.
They did OK with Mongols and Chinese, and wrecked Koreans hard.
>Informally
Usually in the form of Ronins going pirate
-Spaniards in the Philippines
-Portuguese in various places in Southeast Asia
-Various Southeast Asians.
-Chinese again
-Koreans again
Contemporarily: people in the region respected the Samurai (possibly except Korea, which saw everything Japanese as barbarous). The Chinese said they were pretty brave, and the Spanish in the Philippines actually welcomed Christian Japanese Samurai exiles in their colonial armies in the 1500's-1590's. But it wasnt because they were super-soldiers or anything, but they're free professionals without a job and they exploited this given how very few of the Spanish Army in the Philippines consisted of Europeans due to the difficulties of getting from Spain to Southeast Asia.
Who gets bragging rights for building the most unassailable fortress?
Pic or it doesn't exist.
>>484419
The ones that were not attacked.
Unassailable you said.
Och aye
King Arthur