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Sparta is a weird state. I'm not just talking about the warrior culture that pervaded it; although you can't avoid that when talking about Lacedaemon.

It wasn't the first or the last political entity to be dominated by a warrior aristocracy, but as far as I know, it lasted in its form of governance by far the longest, and what's more, without handy external enemies to plunder to justify the existence of said warrior aristocracy.

How did this happen? And why didn't it implode? And how come we have virtually no mention of any strata of Spartan society other than the warrior aristocracy itself?
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It's hard to imagine such a place actually existing. It seems fictional.
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Their form of currency was IRON INGOTS

let that sink in for a moment, you want to make commercial transactions? Here let me pull out this IRON INGOT to purchase some bread
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The public was cool with being a warrior state I guess.

How did Zoroastrianism go from being the most powerful religion to a literal who religion and why?
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Muslims killed or converted 99% of them, like they do with all religions in their path
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Zoroastrianism was associated with the Sassanids. When they faltered and collapsed, Zoroastrianism declined with them. The Sunni faith was vibrant, new, and supported by a growing empire so it had a definite upper hand in terms of being able to spread.
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>>490379
>Zoroastrianism was associated with the Sassanids
That's wrong, pre-Sassanid Persia was Zoroastrian as well

Can we have a non-/pol/ conspiracy thread about the khazars?

Pretty interesting people 2bh

For people who don't know:
>khaganate straddled between the Byzantines and the Umayyads in what we would now call the Caucasus and fringes of eastern europe
>acted as a bulwark against islamic forays into Europe
>gained extreme wealth in controlling trade along their expanse
>in the 8th century, khazar royalty and some nobility definitely converted to rabbinic Judaism
>it is unknown how far the conversion was felt throughout the khaganate, which has given rise to theories speculating that the khazars were the progenitors of AshkenaI Jewry.

Seems so odd to me that so few people have heard of this place.
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>>490346
Were they Turkic? I mean they were a semi nomadic empire right? Or am I being stupid?
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>>490346
Ashkenazi* Jewry
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>>490350
Not the bulk of their population at least, because as you said, they were Nomads. They didn't genocide the Caucasians that were previously living there.

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What calendar did the Japanese used to have before the Christian calendar? Why did they adopt a calendar that is based on religion they do not practice? Was there a problem with adopting it?
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>>490115
>Why did they adopt a calendar that is based on religion they do not practice
Because everyone else followed it.
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>>490115
The imperial calender.

Which was also confusing and shitty.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calendar

Japan still uses their own calendar for a lot of things.

Their year starts in the spring. Years are the Emperor's name and how many years he has been ruling.

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The transitive property states that
>if X is Y
>and Y is Z
It therefore follows that
>X is Z

The why is it that
>Peter Parker is Spiderman
>Spiderman is famous
However
>Peter Parker is not famous

Can anyone explain this?
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>>489989
Spiderman = Peter Parker + public image

They aren't equal.
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/his/ threads keep getting more ridiculous, what the fuck
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>>489989

non-substitutability of different descriptions of the object

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You can't blame all Muslims for the artocities that Isis commits in the Middle East
Just as much as you can't blame all crusaders for Venetians ransacking Constantinople.
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I can blame Islam for never producing anything of worth, and I can say that its evil culture needs to be replaced with Western Modernity.
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>>489813
>Just as much as you can't blame all crusaders for Venetians ransacking Constantinople.
Dude, go read Nicetas Choniates, the venetians were the least damaging party in the 4th crusade. It's the fucking franks who totally nigged out.
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>>489813

>implying the byzantines weren't heretics and traitors anyway

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raping, pillaging, murdering


how were the vikings any different from ISIS?

I mean at least ISIS kills sandniggers - vikings were doing this to fellow white men

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE PROUD OF MY NORWEGIAN HERITAGE
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>>489611
>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE PROUD OF MY NORWEGIAN HERITAGE

There's more to Northern history than Vikings...
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>>489611
>I mean at least ISIS kills sandniggers - vikings were doing this to fellow white men
>fellow white men

they weren't white, too much mongol heritage. you can see it in their actions and lack of high culture. having blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't make you white.
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>>489628
my heritage is also from the Orkney Islands, Scotland. A region that was entirely settled by vikings exclusively . There's no doubt that I have blood from men who kidnapped, raped, pillaged, and murdered

Will philosophy ultimately only lead back to the ordinary, making it pointless really? I mean when all deep questions were to be answered, what would be left besides the ordinary?
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Deep questions will never be answered though
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>>489518
If you knew the thing about philosophy you would know that those questions cannot be universally answered. You can only answer them for yourself.
Nothing will happen to you if you do
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>>489528
I think if the deep questions can't be answered or not doesn't really matter. What seems to matter is what we'd if we imagine for a second we could and then presume we did. What would we do with it?

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Assuming the Ostrogothic Kingdom survived into the Middle Ages. Would it be very different from "canon" Italy (With genoa, venice etc) ?
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>>489506

There would not be Lombardic Italy to begin with.

And you should take in account that would not only change Italy, but the whole Europe, do they keep a strong state?
Then they wouldnt be the easy prey for the Franks liek the Lombards were.
Do they keep close relations with teh Visigoths?
A strong Gothic Alliance could have emerged.
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Probably not because the rise of things like the Papal States led to the fragmentation of Italy and with the rise of Papal States people were like fuck this shit I'm out.
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>>489506
Roman Empire 2.0

How large could "Europe" have been?

In other words, would it have been possible, had things gone differently, for parts of North Africa or the Middle East to be considered European, culturally?
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How do you know it won't enlarge in the future?
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>>489466
Well considering how those regions were all owned by Europe at one point and still retained their own unique cultures and languages, no, European culture has spread as far as it ever will. However, Europe will continue to influence non European nations in ways that allow non European countries to retain their traditions.
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>Implying there isn't a continuity between Europe and Asia
>Falling for imperialist memes this hard

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TIL Socrates' wife was kind of an hysterical bitch. Like most women, according to Plato.

> After a short time he came and told us to go in. We found Socrates
> recently released from his chains, and Xanthippe—you know her—sitting
> by him, holding their baby. When she saw us, she cried out and said the
> sort of thing that women usually say: “Socrates, this is the last time your
> friends will talk to you and you to them.” Socrates looked at Crito. “Crito,”
> he said, “let someone take her home.” And some of Crito’s people led her
> away lamenting and beating her breast.

> she cried out and said the sort of thing that women usually say
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I always forgot people thousands of years ago were people too, it's interesting to see these traits that all cultures seem to share because of our innate humanity. I love these sort of things, does anyone have similar stuff?
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>>489198

You seem like a retard.

T. Socrate´s wife.
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Yea I've read this dialogue and it was not hysterics. Her fucking husband was hours away from being executed and she was crying and experiencing emotions, which they viewed as a womanly thing. Later when the men present tear up, Socrates basically told them they were acting like women and this is why I sent away the others.

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ITT: Stuff that breaks our 25 year rule today, but won't tomorrow.
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>>489122

slovenian terrorism is never forgotten
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>>489122
PURE IDEOLOGY

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I must unite the Roman peoples under one flag
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>>489090
I must unite the roman provinces under one flag
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>>489112
I must unite the Romanian provinces under one flag.
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Silly boys.

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I've been wondering something.
If a western nation like say, Germany, was given the task to erase every other single non-western nation of the world, could they achieve it? or would they be massively stumped by China and Japan? I mean that the USA and other european nations wouldn't intervene and let Germany go through with a world-wide holocaust.
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Boom
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China and Russia would kick Germany's ass, if there is no NATO support
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Fairly sure Germany doesn't stand a chance against China.

Why wasn't he hung with the rest of them?
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>>488840

Smiling Kesselring did nothing wrong. Hanging partisans was not a crime until after WW2, Italifag
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>>488879
Wait hanging terrorists is a crime after ww2?
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>>488885
How can partisans qualify as terrorists? They strike military, not civilians-

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