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>>476978
Usurper of the rightful Roman throne.

But a pretty cool guy.

>>476978
Second greatest French emperor behind Napoleon

>>477037

this picture kinda makes me wonder what constantinople would look like the ERE never fell/was going through the industrial revolution a la London.

People think this?

>>481667
>Christianity came to Platonism

>>481688
It's a big meme

>>481651
They did one with afro-latinos but not sure about African youth but really it won't be all that different when bleaching is common and European/American manufacturers seek such things down there along with chemical relaxers.

Probably because the person asking is white, and the kids are afraid to disappoint or offend

>>481659
Also I'd like to add if you think being around a bunch of black people in today's day and age can nullify societally entrenched anti-blackness you're very incorrect.

There are plenty of scholars of religion around who analyze the bible and other holy books in a historical context. Same for theologians who try to debate religion rationally without all the shit-flinging.
brace for >rationally

You won't find many of either here, obviously, though some people do try bless their hearts.

>>481091
>Does anybody else wish there were more intelligent, well educated scholars of the bible making compelling arguments for the truth and accuracy of the bible?

There are plenty of them. They're theologians.

>truth…accuracy
You haven't considered what these mean theologically and are attempting to impose your feeble human rationality onto the works of god.

>The historical accuracy of the bible from an archeological perspective
Doesn't exist. These are rational human disciplines that reject the role of the divine in history and archaeology respectively. The post-patriarchal redaction of the myths of a levantine hill tribe who had some run ins with sea people and babylon aren't.

>the divine prophecy of the bible being accurately fulfilled, the historicity of figures in the bible. All of these things in a compelling argument for it possibly being god's inspired word?

God you're contemptuous of divinity. You're less humble before the divine than Luther, and more self-inflated with rationality.

>yet how pervasive the bible is on history
It isn't. Start reading the archaeology of the ancient levant and some serious theological works on the redactive process of the torah. And this is THEOLOGY you're missing out on and wrong on.


I bet you can't even name the consort of Yahweh, or Yahweh's role in the pantheon before the Jerusalem temple started redacting him as a sole god?

I bet you think the Samaritans were theologically wrong… given that innovation happened in Jerusalem, the Samaritans are probably the old school. Also, of course, tax issue.

>>481091
>Does anybody else wish there were more intelligent, well educated scholars of the bible making compelling arguments for the truth and accuracy of the bible?
Well, we have about 2000 years worth. Even in modern day, InterestingPhilosophy and Dei Verbum come to mind.

>historical accuracy
It takes lots of searching, but I can guarantee that the exodus fits in.

Honestly I would "intelligently discuss" the Bible with others but it usually ends in vain denominational bickering and people getting confused/bored.

Just floating in space, going mad.

ending destroying

>>479800
>before
There is no before.
There is no after either.
Atleast, not for God.

>>479163
>All roads were privatized

The government would seize it or you would go bankrupt due to there being no government for a while.

>>479163
Assuming there are no guidelines for road ownership. I suppose so.

>>479163
>would it be within my moral and ethical right to prevent trespassers and demand a fee for people who made use of my land to traffic goods and people.
yes, if you own the road you can do literally anything you want with it. You could just tear it up and turn it into a large circle of corn around the city and practically no one could stop you.

>would it be within my moral and ethical right
you'd be a dick, but you would have both a moral and ethical right to do so.

The West has been superior since man crawled out of the mists of time. Compare Rome's economic output with Han China's.

>>478026
> Compare Rome's economic output with Han China's.
Then do it.
>>478040
Herp derp

>>474999
Time to start with good ol' Hume.

I don't understand

you want philosophers who have argued for idealism?

just google it

>My assumption is that it's a platitude to allow for everyone's ideas to be accepted and we can all live happily and have no kind of discourse.

I don't know what this means

you are saying people don't really believe in idealism?

>>474999
I can only believe that there are objective truths myself.
But i am no philosopher

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>>473288


Not really. We see the saints as our elders, and before modern times, elders were shown respect by bows and kissing their hand. "Well," you say,"if they are not the saints themselves but not icons, you are obviously making an idol out of the icon by treating it like the saint herself." Really? Imagine if you carried around a locket with your mother's picture in it, and sometimes kissed it; would you be confusing the locket with you mother? I don't think so. But you would be venerating her by kissing it.

"Even supposing I agree with you," you continue, "just supposing, that cannot, CAN NOT justify praying to saints." First of all, praying is just pleading or asking, we do that with people in real life all the time. Secondly, we don't see the saints as dead, so we don't see asking them as any worse than asking someone who is very holy and with here on earth (in fact their icons in Church represent them being with us in worship). Thirdly, the major thing we ask saints for is to pray for us. You say, "But we ask them instead of God directly?" Well, if there were a very holy person you knew, do you think it would be unreasonable to ask them to pray with you? Are you going to tell people who do that, that they should not? Worshiping and praying with others is a very enriching experience, and that includes worshiping and praying with the saints, most certainly.

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while you're at it please explain the choice of wood, the impregnation, the basic countouring, the gilding, the painting, the saturation and highlights, the accents, the polishing and the varnishing of an icon.

>>473288
no rituals nor conventions will save mate. otherwise, you remain in the realm of faith and not of certainty.

you can say that rituals matter to preserve the material, given how is perishable anything that humans do, but there is nothing more than this to it.

if you must be recalled day After day to adopt such or such behavior, then it means that you do not behave appropriately as expected beforehand, and it means that you follow the doctrine only by faith and not certainty.

How can Muslims claim to go to Paradise upon martyrdom if they haven't even blown up Mecca in a Sunni-Shiite conflict yet?

Because the Catholic Church is the world's largest charity.

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>>473033
So? That doesn't justify this.

Washing your dick was hard back in those days.

>>472642
In an age before modern hygienic or safe sexual practices, circumcision went a long way to prevent infections of all sorts. It was mostly a practical measure that was then written and into a few religious law codes.

>>472642
Just a form of body modification some people thought looked nice. No different than tattoos, head wrappings, piercings, etc.

Post-communist poor as fuck

No one can say. It was a long time ago, the path it was going was winding and with crossroads everywhere, and there's no similar situation to compare it to.
It might have gone back to being just another capitalist republic, might have been a better cuba, might have been a stalinian hellhole, might have been a libertarian (in the european sense) federation.
In any case we would have learnt a lot from it.

>>471984
>In any case we would have learnt a lot from it.
Spainards disagree

Also, another question: How was Heaven and Hell imagined before Dante?

>>468766
The year is 2015. Man has peered into the darkest corners of the cosmos, and observed the universe on its smallest scale. You walk around with more computing power in your pocket than was available to all of NASA in the 1970s. You live twice as long as your ancestors ever could have dreamed of, you have food in abundance and the future is brighter than ever. Humanity has achieved more in the last century than it ever has in its entire history. People are happier, freer, crime is lower, you're safer, more secure, and the entire wealth of human knowledge is available to you at your finger tips. You live in the dawn of humanity, you were born after the long dark night and you will never know the suffering that every other generation did.

And you still think the words of dehydrated desert madmen in the middle east are literal truth, you unironically believe in God and think Homosexuality is a bad thing.

You're literally a walking insult to everything humanity has ever achieved, lmao.

>>468780
Crime is at one of the worst in history senpai, and the only reason science is where its at today is because of the efforts of the church to keep it going during the middle ages

confucius.
literally "its wrong because its wrong lol" conservatard.

>>478439

>>>/pol/

>>478439

he was more of a political theorist than a philosopher

>>471861
Sagan is based

>>471861
Spiritual atheism...

"I have a spiritual experience but there is no God"

Yet everyone has spiritual experiences which implies the source for all spirituality comes from somewhere.

Not the Earth's creation or the development of mankind as much as the Source of the Spiritual existence...

The only person in all history to be a bigger faggot than Carl Sagan is Neil DeGrasse Tyson.