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Were the crusades justified?
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They didn't win so there's no justification. Cause isn't the reason people go to war. It's ultimately the outcome that inspires people.
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They were perversions of two religions, run by power hungry radicals in both camps.

Hell, more than two religions if you break up Christianity to East and West. You had power hungry politicians in both Christian churches. Plus you have secular power grabs like how Venice was a huge city of influence.
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>>1342115
Well, it was in response to the attacks by the Seljuks of Rum and Unaffiliated Slavers.

it was initially a defensive measure. That much is true.
Then it got to just attacking any Muslim nation who was in the immediate proximity.

Hell, The Fatimids initially even offered to help the Crusaders fight back the Sunni Turks. Then the Crusaders attacked them.

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Post infographics, papyrus fragments, codices, archeological finds, etc.

Pic related, from my studies today.
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Very interesting.
There is this speculation about the bible that arise when I think about the evolution of travel. That is cartography. The interesting part is that Old maps depict the northen half of middle earth (mediterranean) shaped like an open snake's mouth and has a protruding split tongue (italy).

It is historically plausible and accepted that the early Christian church had an oral lore not a written one. But in order to make the Christian religion formal and legally accepted by Rome, it was commissioned to be written down by one of the most hated people in the Christian world. For that matter rumor states if you want the oldest bible. Try to find one without appendages or divisions.

I remember prior to Dubya's presidency the history of oil became a big deal within some history afficionado circles. They called themselves the Brotherhood of Death. Sort of like a Dead Poets Society... Prescott...was an honorary member due to his studies in egyptology and middle eastern religions. They believed that many societies around the world and in particular those near and in the Arab lands used petrol as a sacrificial resin that contained a host at the altar of the temples.
With that said the beings to be sacrificed would be covered in petrol and burned alive. From there they would burn the body until disintegrated and they would roll the bones and tar into a ball. The bones would be grinded. From there that resin ball would be used as a resin within the temples. It encapsulated a host.
It is said historically and politically that monotheistic faiths served a purpose. However the belief in them would always give way back to polytheism, paganism. Monotheistic faith implementation is seen as a conditioning tactic for new laws or governance. As they would always condition people to serve a similar (one) ideal. Now going back to the bible you see moses, abraham...and so forth. It is said those patriarchs lived at times of new laws...
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>>1342268
Continued...

And were not necessarily, hebrew or jewish but were the forefathers or founding fathers of the custom. And each of them a leader in their own right, in a more accurate historical portrayal.

In Jesus's time we see that monotheistic belief was low. Catholics often said that Jesus came at a time of mass sacrifice. That is why God send his son to that area. It is noted that the proliferation of jewish sect means there was a religious schism as all did not find accord with a single observance. The inhabitants of the Phillistines in those days were practicing child sacrifices. It is cryptically spoken of in the gnosis. *note people had to speak cryptically so as not to offend the governing body of society. So in ue gnosis Jesus killed a kid by knocking him off the roof. Houses were not that high. In reality that translates to, Jesus thought of as a holier sacrifice, since option A hit ground. Therefore preferred for the ritual slaughter.
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The great mystery is that there were a great many writers during the time of Jesus that never wrote about him. The oldest version of Gospel of Mark perhaps written from a first hand witness does not mention a virgin birth nor the resurrection. And calls Jesus son on Mary without mentioning Joseph. So one wonders if the bible was enhanced to include Zoroastrianism ideology including virgin birth, resurrection, holy ghost etc to hide something that was looked upon as shameful at that time. Talmud writings tell that Jesus was the illegitimate son of a Roman Soldier called Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera and that Jesus escaped to India when his life was threatened.

>ywn visit the library of alexandria with your handy torch, nowhere to be found in absolute complete silence, reading your papyrus scrolls.
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Inb4 muh sage scrolls.

Trade transactions > meme philsophers, we could learn more from understanging their economy than anything else.
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>>1342071
This, documentations are much more interesting than some lads complaining about how much stupider everyone else is. Imagine finding the architectural plans for some of the greatest structure in antiquity.
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>handy torch
In a library?
>nowhere to be found in absolute complete silence
Except for the hundreds of writers and philosophers and students chatting to each other

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What was slavery like in the Roman empire?
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>>1342060
Bretty gud
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>>1342060
Depends on where did you landed.
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Not nearly as fun as the OP pic is implying.

It ranged from literally being worked to death to being a mid/high level businessman or civil servant.

Note that in the Roman Empire, slaves generally didn't increase in population, unlike in the American South.

This is because the conditions were generally too harsh for the slaves to have children of their own.

This didn't matter to the Romans, who could always catch some more. This is a major reason for the decrease in Europe's population in between the second and seventh centuries AD.

Let's talk intellectual property, /his/.
Does intellectual property actually exist? Or is it purely an economic incentive to inventors and creatives? Should creating an idea actually give you any intrinsic control over how that idea is used?
Put another way, if you ignore the law, Is it ethically permissible to infringe on another's copyright?
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Since I have to use google to find my car manual, I actually do download a car. Having a car and not using a car is not having a car. Having a car and using a car is having a car.
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>Does intellectual property actually exist?
Nothing exists.

>Should creating an idea actually give you any intrinsic control over how that idea is used?
No one has any control over ideas.

>Put another way, if you ignore the law, Is it ethically permissible to infringe on another's copyright?
Everything is "permissible".
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>>1341908
>does intellectual property actually exist?
No, it's a neoliberal fantasy

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/his/ enlighten me about dualism
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>>1341885
Flawed
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>>1341902
Explain
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>>1341917
Simple, The picture says all of the worlds concepts consist of two contrasting qualities, like good and evil. That they both are separate identities. This doesn't work as you cant have evil by its self. Evil is the corruption of good.

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>Richmond must not fall.
>Richmond falls.
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Now it's full of hipsters that want to destroy every statue of confederate figures. fancy that
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>>1341841
Even Lee? He spent the remaining years of his life after the war trying to fix the tear between the North and South.
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>>1341852

They don't really care about that, just that their targets have notoriety which they can turn into publicity.

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Does the concept of honor exist in this day and age? Is it possible to have honor, or to be honorable? Just what exactly is honor? What does it mean to have honor, is it like pride?
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Yes, it exist at least on personal level of self-imposed restrictions. Society can't really push everyone to acting honorable because there is no agreement what is truly honorable way to act.
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>>1341818
Honor means reliable, consistent and earnest ethics. The word isn't in use much due to it being tied with medieval norms or rather classical views. But there are people that can be considered honourable and such in these days and age.
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Honor is killing your sister because the neighbor saw her ankle.

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What are some of the most notable and successful partisan or resistance movements in history?

There seems to have been a lot of cells resisting Nazi occupation during WWII; which ones were the most notable or successful?

What about in other wars and time periods? Do we know of successful or effective partisan-type groups from before the modern age, for instance?
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>notable and successful partisan or resistance movements in history?
Well it's not a German resistance that's for sure.
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The actual bolshevist jews had ballin style iirc. Theres that one that was getting executed, he almost looked like a musketeer. The nazis made the waffen ss to try and step up their style.

Honestly if the wehrmacht had yellow/black capes representing the German eagle they would be eldar god tier in terms of style.
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The PLA is probably the most successful partisan movement, being that they successfully seized control of the world's largest country.

For WW2, the Polish resistance were the shit.

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Why do people fixate on the Wehrmacht's failures at Stalingrad and Moscow when they failed even harder at Leningrad? They tried for *3* years and couldn't take it.
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The Germans made a conscious decision NOT to commit forces to take the city, but rather to starve it out. It's a completely different situation.

The siege itself is one of the great tragedies in human history. While Stalingrad is symbolic as the turning point of the war, Leningrad is symbolic as the resilience of the Russian people.
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>>1341697
They starved the fuck out of the city. They never wanted to take it and the offensive that was planned to do so was halted because the soviets launched their offensive first (which failed)
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>>1341729
>The Germans made a conscious decision NOT to commit forces to take the city, but rather to starve it out. It's a completely different situation.
Guess why they made that decision? Hint, it has a lot to do with fucking not being able to.

christians, what happens here?
lots of sex and beer?
infinite amounts of fun?
where anime becomes real?
i want to know what kinds of cool stuff souls or whatever do in their infinite time in heaven
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>>1341692
There's lots of singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTBQM3E26rk
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>>1341692

It becomes boring after a while and then you'll start to have a severe existential crisis in your 10,000th year in heaven, and then you'll start wanting to end your existence and truly rest in peace.
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>>1341717
Maybe if you live a good afterlife and follow Superjesus then you get to go to Superheaven with Supergod.

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Why do people do this?
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>>1341684
>25 year rule
>>>/pol/
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>>1341689
>Hitler
>25 years old

Fagooot
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>>1341684
protection, sense of community, for the thrill of it etc. . .

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Is space colonization possible this century?
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Maybe?

>>>/sci/
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Is it possible? Yes
This century? No
>>>/sci/
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No.

Maybe by 2600

Brain storage/partial cryosleep may begin within 50-150 years tho

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Why didn't India abandoned its polytheism ways? Everyone else choose less retarded religious way centered about one being, be it Buddhism, Jewish Monotheism, Islamism or Jesusism.
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>>1341623
Flood killed Jews competitors and they became the dominant in the area.
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>>1341623
The muslims could have gotten away with eradicating Hindus had it not been for the Marathas.
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Australia needs to be range banned

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Indian here

I just realized that both India and Western Europe suffered invasions from the Huns which devastated both areas and contributed to the fall of the regional empires (Gupta & Western Roman Empire). One trend I noticed was that Indian economy went into a severe decline after the Hunnic invasions and that the economic decline lasted until independence. So my question was, why Europe recovered from the Hunnic invasions whereas India went into a economic decline.
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Seems like Huns really shat on India
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Reduced contact with world, Muslims, then Brits.

First point, the buddhist centers served as meeting points between civilizations across. They included trade of material goods and wealth of knowledge and culture. Once that declined they were cut off. Second roman empire trade was cut off after the fall of the empire. The Byzantines are not roman. Two major source dried and you're left stranded.

Second, Muslims taxed Hindus and became wealthy. The wealth wasn't distributed properly back into the society. Thus adding to the stagnation.
Third British. Their resource extraction harmed India greatly and the massive famines following their rule.
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>>1341500

lack of loos in which to poo

toilet witch hunts

unironic caste systems limiting social flexibility

etc

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