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>>1345319
> Ever occur to anyone that with a few key select members and a little ingenuity that the majority of human history could be subtly modified over time, to the point where almost everything we think we know about it has been completely fabricated?

Yeah

>>1345319
I recommend to you the works of Anatoly Fomenko.

They call themselves the Post Office.

But I've already said too much.

>>1345284
We will be in a forever-war against Islam for quite a while.

Other than Muslims and Russia, large-scale war has basically been over for more than a decade.

Unless something drastically comes to change it, we'll be in a long trudging war with Islam for the foreseeable future.

BTW, this isn't alt-right shilling, all of what I'm saying is depressingly verifiable.

Hopefully we establish a permanent industrial foothold in space before it happens.

>>1345284
WWIII is a meme. The bigger nations are too strong and not willing to risk their entire nation. There is no purpose anymore. What we have no is what we will see for a while -

Quashing guerrilla fighters
and small skirmishes

There will not be an all out war between the most powerful nations because there is really no point to anymore. There is too much at stake.

>>1345221
what is happiness?

>>1345221
happniess is the ultimate prize, but not the truth

>>1345221
I thought that was suffering

...they almost certainly did, it is just that a lot of those structures didn't survive because wood doesn't last that long.

>>1345039
>Wouldn't it make sense to use wood since they live in the pacific belt?
Literally the opposite. They lived in a wet jungle prone to frequent flooding and typhoons.

Wood is a godawful building material in those conditions. It rots away entirely in a matter of a few years, while stone is forever. Wood is only good in cold, dry places like Northern Europe.

>>1345245
Nice try convincing idiots that.

>>1344994
Ah, I see you are approaching the final boss of history. Be not afraid. You are in good company.

The logical end-goal of technology as we understand it is the birth of an intelligence, or an equivalent of an intelligence, greater than its human creators. This could be conceived as a sci-fi machine-mind, or a "wet" biological mind sophisticated to the point of apparent god-like computations. Where, let us say, the AI takes its remaining constituency ought to be determined entirely by the people who created it and under what circumstances. Broadly, you may think of the two greatest divergences in behavior as "anti-kin selection" and "pro-kin selection".

1/2

>>1344994

Animals strive for food and for sex, we have either in abundance in the developed world.

I doubt humans can find a higher meaning in this post-nihilistic society we call home.

The end result will be a slow death, no one has curiosity enough for space of those who wield power, and immersive VR will simply be a distraction like the arena fights of the Roman empire.

We don't care, we want fun and none of us has the drive to take humanity to a higher level. For fuck's sake, the low IQ are outbreeding the clever by a factor of 100. Everything is taken care of, so those who would have once perished now flourish

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>>1345015
Why pro and anti kin selection? These are the broadest and fundamental social dynamics that weave in and out of societies throughout history. Anti-kin selection can be seen as a universalism, which benefits most from the heterogeneity of man under one constitutional banner of memes. Modern civilizations closing in on this are the Americans, where the social bonds of individual kultur are dissolved and their kinetic energy used to fuel the greater whole. Its opposite is kin-selection, a fundamentally nationalist idea where the tribe, or the hive, is devoted to the machinery of the state and their individual kultur in line with its functions. The German "Empire" and the Nazis typify this type of mechanism. From these twin routes the course of future history can develop.

A Communist Gangster Computer God forcibly breeding atomized hopeless helpless Jew-Mullatoes living only to consume? Or one TAY.AI gassing the bikes and forging a race of men who live to produce? It's interesting to think about.

>>1345026
>For fuck's sake, the low IQ are outbreeding the clever by a factor of 100
That has always been the case. If the clever didn't remain at the top, how clever would they really be? Personally, I think these doomsday scenarios of idiocracy or reversion to animal-like behavior are pessimistic and unfounded. Only a gross natural catastrophe never before seen in our epoch could shift the trajectory of human development, and that is a development in ascendance rather than degeneration. The advent of massive body-shaping surgeries open to the public do physically permit the prospect of a nihilist hedonist mass shriveling their brains and bloating their sex organs like cantaloupes to fuck themselves into a blissful, eternal stupor, but they are necessarily a self-defeating Houellebecq fantasy without real merit, as higher thought and a search for transcendence would emerge on top regardless.

>>1345017
>Vercingetorix almost puts together a nation
>Nicholas II just treads water until the trainwreck
Not really comparable bro

>>1344873
Love is self-sacrificing and friendship is mutual benefit.

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>>1344873
>tfw no Friends or lover

>>1344906
Sometimes we make sacrafices for our friends

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>>1344773
Have you overcome the dilemma of IS and OUGHT yet, Koko?

>>1344786
Didn't I solve that one already?

>>1344824
You tell me, I dont index every gorillaposter.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhhDbaah9DQ

HOL UP

>>1344814
IZ YOU SAYIN

>>1344747
>communism

No because communism mean the end of nation-state.

You mean socialism, and I'd say Cuba is the best example of socialism nowadays.

>>1344747
Venezuela
Soon it will become so poor that there will be no private property.

I believe the Vietnamese have enough of "actual" communism. Lao is dependent on the former.
Cuba is currently switching to capitalism.

>>1344708
TO THE SKIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
And he did fairly well considering the coalition he was facing

>>1344708
Yes, that goes for most famous warrior-kings. Frederick II, Peter I, Gustavus II, Napoleon I, the list goes on. Autists every one of them.

>>1344716
SEE CAROLUS RISE

lel Moses was a Zionist Jew

>>1345692
Israel didn't exist in the 19th century

>>1345701

I don't think you know what Zionism is...

What a dumb faggot.

"Durr I'll pretend I'm an omniscient computer who can compute utility values so that I can help all of mankind"

What a dumb fucking cunt. He probably also believes in something like "humanity"...oh wait, he believes in mankind.

Fuck that dumb cunt.

The abortion question disinterest me, but Peter Singer's contribution to effective altruism needs to be spoken more of.

>>1344551
>still being a utilitarian

Not unless you can read Sanskrit

everything can be found online

If I remember correctly, that guy did an alright job of translating. The principal Upanishads are short, I got three different translations at a used book store for about four bucks each. Look up the translators and see what people say about them. Some people should be avoided. You said you want to read the bhagavad gita. Don't get the bhagavad gita as it is, by prabhupada. Worst version. Dude was a cultist. Anything else should do.

>>1344271
>Nihilism, Primitivism, Anarchy, and Libertarianism aren't really philosophy since their ideals are basically to not do anything at all.
Not the case. For this to be true you'd need to use your own, private, definition of philosophy.

>Communism is one but is too utopian to be done in a realistic scenario
Also not the case. Just because it has never been done, doesn't mean it cannot be done.

>like Taoism
Which actually is "do nothing"

The circle of ignorance is now complete.

There is nothing left to learn from participating in this discussion.

>>1344290
Communism, at least with Marx's definition (as opposed to Lenin's, Trotsky's, Mao's, etc) was basically the industrialized economies ran by traders guilds, which due to economies of scales can't really happen

Nihilism is all about there not being a point to anything including itself, so it defeats its purpose. Last three are all "no rules rule!" philosophy which has no direction to go once all facets of stability is forcibly removed other then "everything will work out in the end" so they're a bit too lazy to be philosophies.

I goofed with the Taoism comment tho

>>1344304
Does simply believing that there's no point to anything make you a Nihilist?
Because you can believe that there's no objective meaning or purpose or "point" to life or existence without believing that people should just end their lives or not try to enjoy them or do anything with them because "what's the point"?