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Can this people claim the heritage of the ancient macedonians? Whats going on here?
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WE WUZ KANGS: the country
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>>1346482
Nope. The ancient Macedonians were Greek.They should change their fucking name. Basically they're random yugoslavs who were conquered by other countries like Serbia and Bulgaria. After WW2 they were born as a country as a part of Yugoslavia. Tito separated them from Serbia named them Macedonians.
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>>1346492
THIS

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How do Christians reconcile the fact that there is not one mention of demons or Devils in the Old Testament? Demon possession is arguably one of the main focuses of the gospels yet no character from OT ever is mentioned to be possessed. Satan in the OT is not at all like in the NT. He is pure evil and waiting to devour you. Yet in book of job he is mentioned only a couple times and can only do what God orders him. The New Testament also deities Satan many times calling him the "god of this world" and "prince and power of the air". This makes absolutely no sense and really makes me wonder how much pagans influenced the NT. Also if your demon possessed, how can you be responsible for your sins? The demons are the ones commiting them not you. Is demons/Satan all meant to be metaphorical? I ask because many Christians actually believe in casting out demons. Anyone well versed in the bible care to share some insight?
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>not one mention of demons or Devils in the Old Testament?
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/lashshedim_7700.htm

>The New Testament also deities Satan many times calling him the "god of this world"
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+32:17&version=NASB
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>>1346412
>Demon possession is arguably one of the main focuses of the gospels yet no character from OT ever is mentioned to be possessed.
Mind you the OT was pretty nebulous at the time the NT was composed. NT writers may well have had texts or traditions that included it. Certainly they believed they were encountering in the flesh.
>Also if your demon possessed, how can you be responsible for your sins? The demons are the ones commiting them not you.
There's a logic to your logic, but I'm pretty sure the thinking is you become possessed in the first place by giving in to sin.
> Is demons/Satan all meant to be metaphorical?
Doesn't seem like it.
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>>1346412
Idk man. I can't say for sure that God exists. Humanity just needs religion. Not all humans need religion to be nice people. But many do. If there really is no God than no matter what we do is pointless. So if having faith brings you hope and makes you be a better person to other than by all means. If you can do that without a god then that's fine too. But many uneducated people can't so we shouldn't introduce them to the concept that there actually is no being holding them accountable for their actions. Human beings are Inherently flawed, we will never be perfect. Many of us need something to look up to. And that's what religion provides.

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ITT: we post things that trigger Christians
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Walking whales.
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>a higher level of discourse is expected.
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>>1346304
funny how much christianity in its current incarnation at the time triggered the fuck out of nietzche.

fuck dude Nietzsche was more a misanthrope than a nihilist or an atheist.

GO

>Ecc 2:3
>I sought in mire heart to give myself unto
>wine, yet acquainting
>my heart with
>wisdom; and to lay hold on folly
>till i might see
>what was good for the sons of men
>which they should do
>under the heavens
>all the days of their life
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Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too.”

- Lk 2:34-35
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Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

- Mt 10:16

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What does /his/ think of this movie?
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Long.
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Never heard of it
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Glamorization and fantastic elements aside, it's a very good movie. Not as good at the John Wayne version, but still very good.

Does anyone have any experience learning ancient languages? I'm NEET currently and was interested in learning cuneiform/sumerian script, any recommended reading? I can't find anything online
I remember taking a latin course a couple years ago, I had a lot of fun with that
Though of course cuneiform is a whole nother can of worms
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>>1346023
Why tho
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Actual cuneiform script is tough as shit because each word is a unique logogram, kinda like Chinese, depending on how far back you go. It'll take ages to learn. As far as the language itself, if you know any Semitic languages (Arabic, Hebrew) you might have a tiny leg up on the Akkadian cuneiform. Otherwise, you're stuck with Sumerian, a language isolate.

For a language a little closer to home, I recommend you look into Old Persian, vaguely related to English. They took cuneiform and turned it into an alphabet.
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>>1346132
I had the pleasure of learning hebrew during my childhood and teenage years, I'll check out Akkadian cuneiform. I managed to find a book on Sumerian and download it, think I'll take some time and give it a shot before I try the Akkadian
>>1346110
Ancient middle eastern history fascinates me

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Let's face the facts; this "Jesus of Nazareth" person probably never existed. It's a nice myth though
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>>1346021
tips fedora
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2014/09/04/an-atheists-defense-of-the-historicity-of-jesus/

>"He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees"

- Bart Ehrman

>"There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church’s imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more.

- Michael Grant

>"In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.

- Richard Burridge
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Actually he was real and the evidence is strongly supporting the fact that he was black

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>War in Vietnam
>Get up close and personal with your enemy
>build camaraderie with your brothers in arms
>never a question of why you're fighting

>War in Iraq
>launch missiles at the enemy from 200 miles away
>constant deployment rotations, no continuity of forces
>can't even figure out where the WMDs are

Has war-fighting lost its dignity from then to now? What changed?
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>War in Vietnam
>it aint me starts playing
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>the war with widespread drug use, war crimes and fragging was better than the war with a professional military significantly less massacred civilians because muh rose glasses
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>the United States of America
>dignity

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Why did the US, following the Munich Massacre, give financial and intelligence aid to the PLO/Black September and deny this relationship to Israel? I don't believe the explanation that they were simply trying to get the PLO/BS to leave US interests alone. The US is an Israeli puppet, so was this just Israel's way of wreaking revenge on us Europeans indirectly?
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>>1345919
>implying the Munich Massacre happened
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>>1345919
That is an Ape in the picture and not a Monkey. Stop mislabeling different primates you shitlord.
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>>1345919
Funny thing is that the US is a puppet to anybody with enough money to bribe off the politicians.
Unfortunately there are enough rich jews who support Isreal to give Isreal a sort of "favored country" status.

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>he thinks the Catholic Church isn't Christian
>he thinks it's literally the Antichrist
>he thinks the Pope as any real degree of political authority that any country on earth recognizes whatsoever
>he thinks Jesuits are psychic wizard assassins even though even Catholics make jokes about Jesuits being the "worst" of the Church's male Religious Orders
>he thinks anyone would by this lunatic shit, Catholic or otherwise
>he doesn't realize he's a laughingstock among mainline Protestants who AREN'T fucking crazy
>he probably believes in YEC
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>>1345866
>mainline Protestants
The kind with gay marriage and female ordination?

No surprise they're cozy with Catholics
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>>1345866
>YEC

wat
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>gay marriage and female ordination
>No surprise they're cozy with Catholics
>I'm not self-aware enough to realize Catholics will never allow either of those things

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Post avant-garde flags
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>>1345817
I'm not sure if it qualifies as avant-garde, but I don't think I've seen a national flag like the Free Territory's flag.
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Magnitogorsk, Russia
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Why is this allowed?
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>>1345737
Because wounded people are easy to manipulate
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>>1345737
Plebs buy laptops that come pre-loaded with all sorts of shit.

The question is, why haven't you uninstalled it?
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>>1345741
My dads work computer is fucking boss mate. I can't justify dumping 5k+ into a rig like he can, and I aint fucking with his software.

Bumping with a true dictator.

>A group of senators were sent to tell Cincinnatus that he had been nominated dictator. According to Livy, the senators found Cincinnatus while he was plowing on his farm. Cincinnatus cried out "Is everything all right?" They said to Cincinnatus that they hoped "it might turn out well for both him and his country," and then they asked him to put on his senatorial toga and hear the mandate of the senate. He called to his wife, Racilia, telling her to bring out his toga from their cottage.

>Cincinnatus did not want to cause any unnecessary bloodshed, and told the Aequi that he would let them live if they killed three major people for him and brought their leader, Gracchus Cloelius, and his officers to him in chains. A yoke was set up, made up of three spears, and the Aequi had to pass under it in an act of submission, bowing down while confessing that they had been conquered. After this, the war ended and Cincinnatus disbanded his army. He then resigned his dictatorship and returned to his farm, a mere fifteen days after he had been nominated dictator.

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the reason communism never works is because it never relies on a direct, uniform, universal redistribution of wealth, i.e. a basic income.

If you want communism to work, you've got to set your government up like a co-op. A quarter of your paycheck goes to maintaining the business, a quarter gets taken and payed in dividends or profit sharing, the rest goes in your pocket.

Communists would always rather spend your share of your communities resources for you than redistribute them to you directly.

There are maybe a dozen instances where this has been tried, all of them micro-economies, and these few attempts have often been mismanaged, budgeting far too much wealth per individual instead of providing a sustenance income.
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>>1345640
so long as the price of land ownership remains outside the reach of all but the wealthiest citizens, you will always be dependant on your landlord.

It doesn't matter how much you get paid, because they can always raise the rent accordingly.

Basically, they are always going to want at LEAST half. The government is going to take half of THAT, and whatever is left over after food and groceries, all that is left is a fucking pittance.

You're still all basically peasants who have been living the same way for over 2000 years.
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>>1345640
further, basic income should never be a flat amount, it should be based on the percentage of tax revenue taken in by the government.

If the government takes half, it should give you back a quarter. Everyone should get taxed at the same percentage and get paid the same amount of welfare.

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I was raised Christian and truly believed until I turned 16. Ever since then when a "why are you not religious, anon" Conversation comes up I ask the same question.

How can you truly believe hell exist and still pretend you're a compassionate person?

I see stuff like #prayfororlando being posted by people who go to church and learn from a book that teaches gay people will burn in hell forever.

The same people who are horrified at seeing ww2 camps worship a being that created a camp that makes those look like amateur hour.

I ask these people do they think I'm a decent person (yes) , but they get really uncomfortable when I then ask if I deserve to burn alive forever.


So my question to yall religious people out there. How do you personally merge modern values (compassion for strangers) with religious scripture?
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>>1345537
This is a very presumptive thread. For one, not all religions have a hell. Two, even in Christianity and Islam, people bend the holy books to fit their own doctrines. There are plenty of pastors that think being gay is a-okay and there are a scarce amount of imams that believe the same thing.
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Fucking summerfags.

>Can religious people be good?

Obnoxiously so.

I see stuff like #prayfororlando being posted by people who go to church and learn from a book that teaches gay people will burn in hell forever.

Its easier for people to be angry at faggots than to teach them how to be men. Fags are taught by society that wanting to fuck other men in the ass means they should acts like whiny little bitches. The homosex on out, k, and fit are pretty cool.

>The same people who are horrified at seeing ww2 camps worship a being that created a camp that makes those look like amateur hour.

giving two fucks about one group of people killing another when you belong to niether group. Why the fuck do you care? are they your group? then fuck them. Your altruism is misplaced. altruism in animals is based on shared highly heritable traits - essentially an evolutionary tool to pass on the genes of your brothers and neighbors in order to pass on your own (since you share genes).

Your whole post is bait, but I bit.
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>>1345537

Also, if they're praying for someone they believe is going to hell, that shows compassion.

As for the WW2 camps, don't forget there are a lot of people that also think the Jews deserved it or that the Jews really were responsible for WW1.

How is happiness achieved?
Can it be achieved?
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>>1345437
Service to God
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>>1345437
Happiness is a dynamic emotion

Chasing it leads to it changing and needing to be sought again

Be content in being nothing
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>>1345446
has this worked for you?
be honest

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