What was/is the pinnacle of human civilization, in your opinion?
>>2179471
The 90s
>>2179471
Ancient Greece.
>muh huh and the slaves
I'm not talkin about that.
Atlantis
Hey /his/, can you redpill me on Islam? Google of course brings up either 'its 100% a religion of peace and all the bad things any muslims have done don't matter' or it brings up Islam hate articles.
So is it really a religion of peace? Is the stuff about killing infidels to get into paradise in whatever part of the Quran considered to be their 'Old Testament' and thus only followed by radicals?
Anything you know plus any links to actual information on the religion itself would be great, I want to learn as much as I can.
I don't care about islam
>>2179136
It's no more or less violent than any other Abrahamic religion can manage.
>>2179136
Tunisian muslim here.
>killing infidels
Ignored and considered as only relevant to the early times of Islam (at the time it was written), it's considered as a story more than something to follow.
Don't really know what to say but if you want to ask questions I'd gladly answer as much as I can.
The city of Dresden (1945, colorized):
>>2178428
>Strategic bombing was a war crime.
[citation needed]
>>2178428
start shit; get hit
>>2178447
>Bombing schools as hospitals
>Strategic
Why is this allowed? Does something like this have a negative effect on historical memory and social harmony?
Do black people really trigger you that much?
Also, yeah it's going to paint the history in broad strokes, but it's fucking Broadway. It's a drama inspired by a book, which by the way is pretty well researched.
Sure it might not be 'real history,' but I'm just happy people are learning. And about a good American, as opposed to some asshat like jefferson
What are you asking, why is a dramatic retelling of history that takes some liberties for entertainment purposes allowed? Probably to entertain.
Also 25 year rule, so fuck off.
>>2178207
>Do black people really trigger you that much?
Not an argument.
>>2178219
>Also 25 year rule, so fuck off.
The play is less than 25 years old, sure. But it deals with events from over 200 years ago and also aspects of historical memory and popular portrayals of historical figures and events and is thus completely relevant to discuss on this board.
Why have russia always been so mean to Poland in history, they're both slav nations, so they should be bros right?
>>2178071
because russia are cunts
>>2178071
Poland is kinda Slavic-Germanic. Thus they have always been wedged between two countries that want them dead for different reasons, Germany for being Slavic and Russia for being German,
Russians are Orthodox, Poles are Catholic. It's one of the main reasons why there's so much bad blood between them.
All /pol/ aside, the Nuremberg Trials were kangaroo as fuck, right?
>>2176844
They were a foregone conclusion in many cases but they were a damn sight fairer than the trial the nazis gave their victims. And many defendants were acquitted in whole or in part, it was only the nazi bigwigs and those directly involved in genocide who were doomed before the start.
>>2176844
Wasn't the whole premise of the trials to retroactively punish people for acts that weren't illegal at the time they were committed?
I might be retardedly mistaken however.
>>2176844
>>2176861
They were a farce. Remember the soldier that took the piss and made up claims like using submarine engines to gas wood cabins full of Jews and they just ran with it?
They just wanted to eliminate who they thought would be troublesome later, keep potentiality valuable assets, and justice or accuracy was thrown out the window.
Read the transcripts some time. It's illuminating, comical bullshit. Just don't forget that actual atrocities did take place, even if the trials were a mess and fabricated a lot.
When did the White Indo-Aryans in India die off? How was their language able to spread as far as Bangladesh and be spoken by billions? If I had to guess it seems like Indians and Bengalis today are probably 85-95% Dravidian native and less than 15% Indo-European. Meanwhile Persian peoples today still look similar to Southern Europeans
>>2176344
>paddy.jpg
>>2176344
We already have an Irish thread going
>>2176552
>>2176356
It was 100% justified
>>2173819
Correct
>>2173819
How was Nagasaki justified?
>>2173819
I 100% agree.
Why is the English longbow such a meme?
I got into an argument with someone trying to tell that the longbow could kill a man in full plate armor up to 900 meters away, and that plate armor could not even defend from a sword thrust.
>>2171654
He's right though
>>2171654
you got into a youtube argument with lindy. just ignore him.
>>2171654
Because was the machine gun of middle ages?
what happened to commies?
They have been subverted.
They got BTFO by reality.
but that's the same thing
http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/how-russians-imagined-the-year-2017-in-1960-1790754031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYH9PU7T52k
Pretty great find. Apparently they sperged about some of the same things American futurists did at the time.
>>2183553
>Take of your shirt, comrade Anon! We are at the underground beach.
>N-no thanks, comrade! I'm fine.
>What are you hiding, comrade Anon! Take of your shirt like everyone else!
>envision a future utopia with underground beaches in the 1960s
>while your entire economy revolves around smelting steel to make tanks
really makes you think
>>2183584
There's the funny thing about the Soviet economy that it was all focused on production, the planners didn't really give a shit about consumption. Only idiot housewives cared about things like washing machines and desert.
It seems that in the 19th century, evangelicals were on the left of American politics--radical abolitionists in the antebellum era and William Jennings Bryan/the Populist movement. When did they come to be associated with political conservatism?
>>2183404
Oftentimes these groups are leftwing to a certain point. They were leftwing of their day, and as more radical leftwing movements came to dominate the status quo they became right-wing by default simply by preserving the ideology they always had.
>>2183404
Barry Hankins and Randall Balmer have written good histories of this. It was really after the Scopes trial that Evangelicals exit stage right and start building their own subculture. They come back in from the sidelines as hyper-critical of modern society after WW2 with their own alternative Evangelical culture, radio, music, books, etc. That gets ramped up after Roe v Wade, and the divide between Evangelicals and mainstream culture just gets wider and some get angrier. But there's a good argument that there's a growing generational divide now as younger Evangelicals don't want Christianity to be seen as primarily a culture war against gay rights and abortion, and don't want to argue about whether dinosaurs are real or if climate change is just a prelude to the Second Coming. They may not approve of gay marriage and abortion, but they don't want people to think of Christiaity as just a bunch of angry anti-gay folk. Obviously the kind of Evangelicals who come to 4chan who want to join a crusade or own slaves aren't really representative of what's going on.
>>2183541
Thanks, good post.
The /pol/ LARPers seem to mostly be Catholic, though.
What impact did Riot Grrrl have on society?
the fuck does that mean?
are you making up words again
>>2183044
I did like Tank Girl movie. Other than that, they triggered a minor revival of punk fashion.
Thats about it on their impact on society.
some nice albums
Its just as hated on /pol/ as it is on reddit. The more moderate libertarians and mainline progressives hate it, as do the reactionaries and radical marxists/anarchists.
No one, outside of establishment circles, seems to have any respect for the ideology anymore despite it still having plenty of influence. Why is that?
It's a very obviously Jewish self-interested ideology. Even if people are unaware of the Jewish question, they sense this.
>>2182796
Extremism in the defense of memes is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of traps is no virtue.
Neoconservatism is the straight-laced older brother of libertarianism's pot-smoking teenagerdom. Unfortunately they both get co-opted by CEO's and smarmy rich fuckers to trick regular people into giving up their rights and money. In theory, though, neoconservatism is compelling because they believe in creating big over-arching narratives for the common folks to believe in, which is sort of a nice idea. The problem with the actual neoconservatives re: iraq war was that they started believing their own bullshit.
Besides >muh Jews, how was Mussolini's fascism different from Hitler's?
>>2182791
He didn't believe in "muh pure race"
He was not as obsessed with race.
>>2182791
Nat Soc and Italian fascism share many similarities but they are often tied to their national roots.
Mussolini had what he called corporatism which has a very different meaning than what Anglo may think of the term and is actually very close to syndicalism. Very roughly, this is a modified version of the guild structure of some ancient, medieval and modern cities.
Nazis were more "modern" (no positive connotation, I mean modern in the sense of le current year) in that their system was bureaucratic and "scientific", with government employees in a central administration issuing regulations faster than they were gassing the twenty gorillonz of Jews.