Why are so many new-atheist and scientific-materialist critiques of Abrahamic scripture so...autistic? Bereft of context?
Example A: The Tower of Babel. The oft-repeated line to establish the supposed illegitimacy of the Tower of Babel narrative is that, if these fellows were truly trying to reach Heaven, why wouldn't they build a few hundred miles away in the Iraqi highlands where they would be vertically closer to the sky?
This line of questioning totally ignores the very real historical and cultural context of the scene depicted in the book of Genesis, wherein the Tower of Babel was likely merely some early, prominent Ziggurat constructed by a some Mesopotamian priest-king and the part about reaching heaven from its peak corresponds to what we know about the ritual function of the Holy of Holies at the highest level of a ziggurat.
Example B: The supposedly contradictory nature of the Old Testament deity and the various commandments given by Him/It.
This of course ignores the recurring theme in the OT of strife and conflict between the castes, namely the military leaders and ruling families and the state priests and quasi-ascetic prophets, all of whom held different theologies and in some cases worshiped entirely separate deities, all of which were reconciled into a singular culture and theology during a later period.
Can you guys give any other examples of new-atheist critique of religious scripture relying on a sort of static, stagnant view of Biblical history?
>>2184100
>Holy of Holies
That was something in the Jewish temple, not some ziggurat
The worst are the ones that betray a really childish view of the topics presented
>god punished Adam because he disobeyed him xppp
>>2184100
>Example A: The Tower of Babel.
There are Christians who believe the Tower of Babel is much more than a metaphor for a Ziggarut
>
Example B: The supposedly contradictory nature of the Old Testament deity and the various commandments given by Him/It.
This of course ignores the recurring theme in the OT of strife and conflict between the castes, namely the military leaders and ruling families and the state priests and quasi-ascetic prophets, all of whom held different theologies and in some cases worshiped entirely separate deities, all of which were reconciled into a singular culture and theology during a later period.
Except that is not what most Christians believe or how it has traditionally been interpreted. The very fact that it is as you described makes the text and everything build on it suspect.
Why did the Krauts still press ahead with Operation Citadel/Battle of Kursk even after they saw that the Soviets were massively bulking up their defences in the area clearly indicating they knew the attack was coming?
It was so fucking stupid. All of German tank doctrine up at that point had been based around striking at the weakest and least defended areas and achieving complete surprise. Here they knew the Soviets knew they were coming and had dug shitloads of anti-tank fortifications but they still went on ahead with the attack.
WHY????
>>2184047
Because they hadn't failed in a summer offensive yet and thought that this would be Kiev all over again. Plus, the Soviets could pretty reliably be counted upon to make local counterattacks, even full blown counteroffensives, in the midst of German ones; which usually ended badly, I doubt they gave the local fortifications much credence.
>>2184047
Too high on amphetamines.
>>2184047
The idea had been to destroy the growing Russian reserve.
Most of the offensive was cancelled in the first week anyway due to the Allied invasion of Italy.
>"these guys, were the special forces of their day!
>extreme close-up footage during a fight you can hardly understand because its so close up.
>guitar rifts.
>>2184046
I enjoy them. I usually learn what I set out to learn.
>>2184046
Is this fro that one shit history channel episode about the Varangian Guard?
>shot of phalanx made by late 90s CGI
>top gun music starts playing
When I sin, does it make God sad?
>>2183871
It adds to Christ pain.
No, it injures your soul and furthers you from The Great Being.
when you breath it makes god sad
I'm traveling in Toulouse and reading up on its history in regards to the cathars and my dear god, do they sound like medieval SJWs.
>They believed that genders weren't real
>they thought penis in vagina was oppressive
>the real world is a lie, it's your feelings that matter
>achieving anything in the real world is a sin because it's just the devils illusion
>reincarnation is constant therefore everyone is an otherkin
And this was in fucking 1200! If the papacy hadn't exterminated every last one of them in the fourth crusade how fucking crazy would Occitania be in 2016? They would make Sweden seem like /pol/ in comparison!
>>2183856
The wise Mother Church rightfully cleansed the Earth of that abominable sect.
>>2183856
Tfw the Albigensian Crusade actually happened
It feels good
yeah because a secret society of murderous little boy fuckers who control the world is so much better
Is this accurate?
Yes, all Spaniards today are descendants of Africans.
>>2183791
So u be sayin sumn like uh dey wuz kangz n shiet ?
>>2183798
ayo hol up u kno it nigguh
ITT people that did literally nothing wrong
>>2183773
>>2183773
don't get involved in Tudor politics if you are allergic to beheadings
Are there any other good history YT channels like Historia Civilis?
John Green's pretty good
I've always wanted to make my own youtube series about Rome. Unfortunately Historia Civilis did too good of a job and stole the Roman history market. Bummer.
I suppose military history would be fun and still accessible.
What role alcohol played in history?
The centerpiece of 19th-century industrialization.
Getting people drunk what the fuck else? Stop posting autism
Why was liquor factories so profitable?
Is he the most underrated emperor?
Basil the Bulgar-slayer is the most underrated imo
>>2183356
Majorian is imo, by far.
>>2183356
How the fuck do you underrate a Sociopath? Tiberius was batshit crazy on toast. Claudius, Majorian, Claudius Gothicus and Severus Alexander were underrated.
I'm a high-school philosophy teacher and I'm having trouble preparing a lesson on John S. Mill's utilitarianism.
Anyone knowledgeable in philosophy and want to discuss the problem?
>Student studying philosophy at Oxford
Not a Professor or a grad student, but I have read and studied Mill. I may try to help. What is your problem exactly?
>>2183323
I would add, for general reference the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy has a worthy article with basic understandings of Mill: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mill/
>>2183323
Why do I want to masterbate when I see white women with black men?
Why was the western architecture so superior to Byzantine architecture?
>>2183127
That's subjective.
no time for architecture when you are beset on land by kebab and on sea by gondola
>>2183156
>le subjective meme
Just look at the complexity of the shapes. It's like comparing an 8th grader's essay with Shakespeare.
Daily reminder that if you think killing people or stealing is wrong because of "muh morals," you are about as spooked as you can get.
daily reminder that if you come up with complicated ideological critiques of morality but then just live a regular life you're wasting your time and nobody will ever care what you think
>>2183021
in the culture we live in killing and stealing is in fact immoral in most cases. They are not inherently immoral, however. But humans must and can only act in self interest, and following cultural rules is usually in self interest.
>>2183087
I don't think I've ever met anyone this spooked before
Pic proves the existence of God.
Prove me wrong.
(I would actually really be interested in your thoughts desu)
English translation?
>>2182963
Loosely translated:
>Ax. 1
In nature, if something moves something else, then this first thing was moved by a another thing.
>Ax 2.
There are things in nature that are in motion.
>Ax. 3
There has to have been a first motion, i.e. there was something that moved something else without having been moved by a another thing beforehand
>Def.
Let s be this first thing that moved something else
>Thm.
s cannot be physical (follows from 1st and 4th line)
Therefore s had to have been supernatural and therefore atheists btfo (maybe)
>>2182874
So this is just a lazy formulation of Aristotelian cosmological argument from 4th century BC.
>Ax.1 : If y is physical and there is something y moves, then there must be something that moves y.
I can't see why I should accept this axiom, immobile mover can be perfectly physical.
>Ax. 2: There exist x and y such that y is physical and it's moved by x
Can't argue with it.
>Ax. 3: There exist y and z such that y moves x but isn't moved by anything
This is basically "I can't proof the existence of God so I just assume it as an axiom" clause. There is no reason to accept this axiom, I can think of a circular movement interdependence with everything being moved by something else, and this is exactly how the physical world looks like form here.
>Def. s: Let's define s as something that moves anything but itsn't moved itself
See how this doesn't mean there is only one such s.
>Thm: Def. s is a negative of the conclusion of the implication in Ax.1 so the negative of it's premise is true. So, "Something that moves anything but isn't moved itself isn't physical"
The logic itself is sound, but it's based on unacceptable axioms. Also the proper conclusion should be "There exists something that isn't physical" and this is a far cry from proving God, whatever loose definition of the latter you're trying to use.
Is discrediting female contribution to society throughout history just great man bullshit?
Whenever someone questions the idea of women contributing and being important for historical society, they always say that there are far less female inventors, generals, leaders, etc.
It seems like that to these people, all that matters is the central named figures, rather than the population as a whole.
Can you clean up that bullshit brain vomit into a coherent /his/torical question?
>>2182705
>they always say that there are far less female inventors, generals, leaders, etc.
It's true even if women contributed a great deal.
roasties evolved to be literal cock sock walking uteruses and need to stop pretending otherwise
they're quite literally subhuman