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>"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It."
Does History actually repeat itself?
I mean civilizations rise and fall, yes; but would that stop if we "learned from the past"?
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>>2645851
No, history isn't a narrative.
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>>2645851
Its some meaningless dribble about how war is bad and evil when its natural human behavior.
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>"natural" human behavior
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best navy commander in history
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>>2645784
>13 ships
>rekt 130 ships
YAMERO
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>>2645784
Poor man's Yang Wenli
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>Unboardable turtle ships armed with cannons
>Home field advantage
>Japanese ships couldn't effectively combat turtle ships
>Fleets he attacked were exhausted from the trek
He pulled off some impressive victories but that was more due to several factors being in his favor rather than any tactical or strategic genius on his part. His tactics were effective but simple at best and any competent admiral could and would have pulled off the same result.
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We cannot be good without God 2017-04-11 01:09:41 Post No.2645768
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We cannot be good without God
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God holds all persons morally accountable for their actions. Evil and wrong will be punished; righteousness will be vindicated. Good ultimately triumphs over evil, and we shall finally see that we do live in a moral universe after all. Despite the inequities of this life, in the end the scales of God’s justice will be balanced. Thus, the moral choices we make in this life are infused with an eternal significance. We can with consistency make moral choices which run contrary to our self-interest and even undertake acts of extreme self-sacrifice, knowing that such decisions are not empty and ultimately meaningless gestures. Rather our moral lives have a paramount significance. So I think it is evident that theism provides a sound foundation for morality.
Contrast this with the atheistic hypothesis. As a result of socio-biological pressures, there has evolved among homo sapiens a sort of “herd morality” which functions well in the perpetuation of our species in the struggle for survival. But there does not seem to be anything about homo sapiens that makes this morality objectively true. It becomes impossible to condemn war, oppression, or crime as evil. Nor can one praise brotherhood, equality, or love as good. It does not matter what values you choose—for there is no right and wrong; good and evil do not exist. That means that an atrocity like the Holocaust was really morally indifferent. You may think that it was wrong, but your opinion has no more validity than that of the Nazi war criminal who thought it was good.
Moreover, if atheism is true, there is no moral accountability for one’s actions. Even if there were objective moral values and duties under naturalism, they are irrelevant because there is no moral accountability. If life ends at the grave, it makes no difference whether one lives as a Stalin or as a saint. As the Russian writer Fyodor Dostoyevsky rightly said: “If there is no immortality, then all things are permitted.”
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>euthyphro
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Dostoevsky never said that actually
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If God commands morality it's just as arbitrary as if man did.
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*teleports behinds you*
*unsheaths armchair psychology*
*writes polemical history without methodology*
I love Christ I just don't like Christianity, btw. I bet no other freethinker has ever been that original before.
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Did you read that summary in a Mickey Mouse book ?
No, he didn't like Jeebus and his hipocritic slave morality much. But he sucked up to the greeks and Dionysus.
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>>2645716
I love Dionysius, but I oppose alchohol and think Islam is even better than ancient Greece and Rome.
Who am I?
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>>2645804
Islam as a general, dreamy outlook on it's untapped potential?
Or Islam as it actually is in reality, a cult of literalist, autistic bigots?
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>Romans described Gauls as tall and blond/red haired
>modern French are dark haired manlets
Did the Gauls get genocided?
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lmao @ u
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>>2645655
No, everyone in France dyes their hair dark brown.
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Just imagine how tawny ancient Romans would have been to describe proto-French people as light-featured.
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If it still existed, could the Maoris have formed a thriving civilization? No doubt the constant warfare between them would drive technological development.
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Probably. The Easter Island kerfuffle demonstrates that the Polynesian peoples were perfectly capable of creating complex societies, just didn't have the resources to maintain them.
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>>2645643
It's very likely, yes. Even today Maoris are pretty based.
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>>2645643
Probably not.
The most advanced thing that the tribal, war like people that occupied the continent just to their west managed to do was some small-scale eel farming.
Just because you happen to occupy a continent and engage in warfare does not guarantee the development of worthwhile civilization.
why do people focus on the negative parts of history like its something to romanticize?
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human suffering is awfully romantic
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>>2645735
no it's not?
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>>2645797
how isn't it?
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Who remained in Germania? 2017-04-11 10:28:25 Post No.2645367
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When reading about Roman and Germanic history it is very common, nearly always, to hear how German tribes were pushed out of Germania. This has left me with the question of who remained in Germania and what happened to them? Similarly, if they were so fierce as to push out Germanic tribes that were substantially fierce themselves, why did they not form an empire and take Rome like the other tribes eventually did?
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>>2645367
Suebi
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>>2645367
people immigrate for a reason, they then tend to find a neet combination of tech on a trading xroads which they then take back to place of origins to scorched earth it. this goes on/balance continues to this task/mission to this day, sometimes the inter-grudges last thousands of years. i think.
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>>2645394
>Suebi
They were pushed out by the Goths
What got you into History, anon?
>played paradox autism games
>learn history of my country
>learn history of europe
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I went to school
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I discovered someone knew more about something than I did and didn't like that.
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>>2645362
History in schools isn't great, not everywhere.
In Northern Ireland for example there have been countless examples of them teaching about the history of NI in a way that paints irish catholics as oppressive terrorists that attacked innocent protestants with 0 context, etc etc
I came out of a fucking grammar school in England having studied Geography and couldn't point out India on a map until I taught myself where everything was.
They really don't teach an equal level of stuff all over the country.
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What are your favourite ruined castles and what are their histories.
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Castle of my city (Heidelberg)
Used to be the residence of the electoral count of the Palatinate region until the French destroyed it at the end of the 17th century
In the old part of the city, wherever you look up, the castle towers over you
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>>2645344
Manderscheid castles, blown up by the French.
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The Right Side of History 2017-04-11 09:32:32 Post No.2645237
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Why do liberals like pic related tend to be on the right side of history?
Does reality and history have a liberal bias?
Also, how best do we combat ideas like nationalism, anti-semitism/anti-zionism, racism, anti-blackness, transphobia and homophobia using examples from history?
Pic related is one of my heroes, he's one of the staples of us /lit/bros. Read him if you haven't, he is a genius when it comes to historical scholarship. Right up there with Derrida.
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He's going all out.
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>on the right side of history
>dies of aids
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>>2645237
>people will reply to this
At least remember to SAGE!
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How Hitler could have won WW2 2017-04-11 09:10:24 Post No.2645186
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How Hitler could have won WW2
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>do not make an alliance with Italy and Japan
>wait for Stalin to invade Finland or Poland
>now the USSR is an international pariah
>if he doesn't invade Poland, try to ally with Poland
>you can now defeat Russia and the West won't be able to interfere because you only invaded a pariah
>head straight for Moscow and take enough winter clothes with you
>treat the population like human beings and simply say you want to liberate them
>deal with the Jews after the fucking war
This is occams razor. It could have been so fucking simple. Why did this Autist need to make everything so complicated?
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>Ally with Poland
>Treat Russians like humans
literally against Nazi core ideology. Fail.
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>>2645186
>ally with Poland
That is against the Nazi ideology
>you can now defeat Russia
No.
>head straight for Moscow and take enough winter clothes with you
Capturing Moscow wouldn't have made the Russian population surrender. Not to mention, what makes you think his forces would've been able to take the city?
>treat the population like human beings and simply say you want to liberate them
This is literally the opposite of Nazi ideology. What makes you think the population would've blieved the Nazis?
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>>2645186
>Le meme reasons
Hitler could have won if he just listened to his generals and advisors.
Why is it bad to talk positively about "patriotism" nowadays? What are the current alternatives to unite a huge amount of people under the same ideas?
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>>2645179
>Why is it bad to talk positively about "patriotism" nowadays?
It isn't.
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It isn't bad to talk about it, liberals just conceptualize patriotism as being devoted to the liberal state's embodiment of bullshit, meaningless libtard ideas like "tolerance" rather than devotion to one's own kinship group.
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>>2645226
fpbp
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*blocks your path*
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>your mustache is glorious, sir
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>licks fingers
>thumbs eyebrows
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>>2645164
BRAAAAAAAP...... FFFTTTTTT.......
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Is the veneration of saints a form of polytheism?
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No.
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Yes. Catholics worshipping a canon of saints instead of God is polytheism.
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>>2644973
Veneration means honouring. It doesn't mean worship.