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Doubtful. Politically speaking, the people had an anger that the Nazis utilised to get into power. They wouldn't have been happy to adhere to what they viewed as extortion. There needed to be conflict as a means of ridding Germany of that anger.

If the victors had dropped some of the demands, Germany would still be influenced by nationalist, communist and populist ideals. It's probable that the victors own people would be pissed, given the death toll for a small reward.

Germany's always been the black sheep, I'd say, on the basis that it's a newer creation and that the main powers had always wanted to keep it in check. Reintegration would have been hard.

Yes, the Nazi ascent was anything but inevitable. One or two things going differently would have likely meant the national socialist movement would have stalled and quietly exited the political scene. Fascist movements depend on momentum. They live on sound and fury. If voters see that their bravado is hollow and their promises empty the movement dies.

Even something as simple as Hindenburg not appointing Hitler chancellor and continuing to run the government through presidential decree would have probably been enough to stop the nazi movement in its tracks. They had already lost seats in the last election, and there's little reason to believe they would have somehow surged forward again if conservative elements in Germany had made it clear they would not work with the plucky upstate nazi party. However, conservative elements did decide to accommodate the Nazis and Hitler rewarded them for it by abolishing elections.

The victors were dropping the demands, at least the British were, which was why Hitler was able to openly rearm. Liberals in Britain were making the argument: "of course they are acting aggressive and rearming, look at how you are treating them like the bad guy." Most attempts at enforcement of the treaty of Versailles were seen as vindictive war mongering and there wasn't British political will to do it.

Even before Hitler though the Weimar government had been covertly rearming from as early as 1920 under Hans von Seeckt. Similarly the Luftwaffe was created by the Weimar government in defiance of the treaty limits. They just had a massive "civilian" pilot training program instead.

Hitler did upset the apple cart I think, had he not come to power Germany would have probably given it another couple of decades before round 2, at least in my opinion.

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>>2650332
I'm not a huge fan of the Roman empire. It's entry-level history.

>But wasn't Roman Empire the Nazi of its time?
No, of course not. Why would you say something like that?

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>>2650332
>But wasn't Roman Empire the Nazi of its time?

no, not even close

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>>2650332
>But wasn't Roman Empire the Nazi of its time?

>>2650316
Russian revolution. But I guess you could consider the birth of communist Russia failure

>>2650316
>implying 1789 didn't end with a failure
The revolutions of 1917/18/19 changed the world, 1789 only set the stage for the modern civil republic.

Animals consider sex pleasurable, the orgasm you feel as you bust a nut is probably the oldest mechanism of your reptilian brain.

>>2650298
It would look Christian.

>>2650298
>tfw she left porn
my dick is unpleased

>what'ss the name of this painting style
fix.

>>2650285
>What's the name of this painting style?
fixed

Surrealism?

right now (2017)

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Well it was the radio age of entertainment.

Shit, wasn't the first television broadcast one of Hitler's speeches?

The masses were easy to sway with a loud father figure and good rhetoric.

Now it takes a bit more finesse.

Weren't Mosley and Primo of Rivera rather irrelevant in their country's political scene?

>>2649987
>So were blacks succesfully bred in modern-age slavery in captivity

In North America, yes. In South America and the Caribbean, no.

>were the circumstances so harsh that slaveowners needed new and new imports of slaves from Africa?

Yes, in the Caribbean and Brazil.

>>2649987
North America lacked sugar plantations and tropical diseases. Thus it was much much better to be a slave in North America. It was only here were slaves increased in population naturally.

>>2649994
But still, if what you said is true, that would mean one initial slave trade period was sufficient to estabilish the needed slave population and no further replacements were needed, are you saying this was the case in North-America?

>lol just strawman your political/philosophical opponents
>actually reading what they have to say and formulating a genuine argument against them? Lol why would I do that? You're asking too much

It was a simpler time. He really thought every small town would be able to have its own self managed self sufficient factory and coal mine and that that would be the end of it.

>>2649977
communism is the best argument against marx's ideas

>>2649935
Yes. Trusting Santa Ana was retarded.

>>2649935
They wouldn't have JUST if they didn't start shit. Just like the Spanish.

>>2652313
shhhhhh....

>>2649846
this pic is so comfy

>>2649846
bump

bump
I want to know

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duh

>>2649811
>being a philosopher
>believing in bearded sky-daddy

don't think so

>>2649811
Most philosophers in history have followed some form of religion.

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Yes.

Here's who made it

>>2649799
The sequel was more worse though.

>>2649803
Fucking Hotzendorf, I hate him so goddamn much.

Neither, it's the people from the "kingdom" of Judah.

The religion that is now called Judaism was practiced also in the kingdom of Israel and the tribes therein were part of a shared ethnicity with Judah's people.

Scholarly consensus is that this Judah was historically not a powerufl kingdom as depicted in the Hebrew Bible, but a smaller tribal identity.

>>2649796
According to the Book of Genesis, Judah (יְהוּדָה, Yehudah) was the name of the fourth son of the patriarch Jacob. During the Exodus, the name was given to the Tribe of Judah, descended from the patriarch Judah. After the conquest and settlement of the land of Canaan, Judah also referred to the territory allocated to the tribe. After the splitting of the united Kingdom of Israel, the name was used for the southern kingdom of Judah. The kingdom now encompassed the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Simeon, along with some of the cities of the Levites. With the destruction of the northern kingdom of Israel (Samaria), the kingdom of Judah became the sole Jewish state and the term y'hudi (יהודי) was applied to all Israelites. When the word makes its first appearance in writing (in the book of Esther) its meaning has already expanded to include converts to the Jewish religion as well as descendants of Israelites.

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>>2649813
Abraham and Moses are rolling in their graves.

Secular judaism was a mistake. You remove the one distinctive factor the jew has always had.

Being chosen by God. And you replace it with a secular atheist mere tribalism.

>>2649726
The majority of humanity has enough sense to realize that a series of books inspired by an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibeneficient God would not include major inconsistencies like when the Crucifixion happened.

People don't reject it out of pride, they reject it because they got the scripture without the doublethink indoctrination

>>2649750
>>2649726
I personally dont believe in your meme god but even if I did I would not worship such a psychopath.

>>2649750
There are no inconsistencies, you are rejecting it due to pride. You think you know it, but in fact do not.
>>2649754
>psychopath
MUH FEELIES ;Ccccc EVERYTHING SHOULD FOLLOW MY PERSONAL FICKLE MORALITY WHICH WILL PROBABLY CHANGE IN A FEW WEEKS ;Cccccc