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>>2643726
>Is there any chance that there were civilisations so long before recorded history that all traces/almost all traces of them have disappeared?
No. If such a civilization existed, evidence of it would have survived. So far, nothing has been found, and the only explanations about why that's the case (if such civilizations really did exist) are pure pseudoscience.

>is it all new age pseudoscience
Yes.

>Are discoveries like Gobleki Tepe forcing us to change our previously held view of when civilisation started?
Not in the way you mean. The biggest thing Gobekli Tepe tells us is that people were willing to put effort towards building religious structures before permanent settlements. That's pretty huge, and it tells us a lot about what society was like at the time, but it has absolutely nothing to do with earlier civilizations, and it doesn't change the prevailing wisdom on when civilization started.

>>2643751
So is civilisation still considered to have started with the Mesopotamians.

>>2643757
Going by all common definitions of civilization, yes. Although the Indus valley civilization started around the same time.

>>2643644
Hold on gimmie a second.
First of all there is one and only one book which is the full English translations of the rites and doctrines.

It's called "Secret School of Wisdom" through Lewis Masonic. My copy got DMCA'd.

http://www.lewismasonic.co.uk/the-secret-school-of-wisdom-the-authentic-rituals-and-doctrine-of-the-illuminati.htm

Lemme try to dig up some of my old posts on the topic.

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Retellings of the death of Lanz, an Illuminati courier, who was struck by lightning in Abschrift [Apologie, p. 229], illustrate the mythology that has grown up around the history of the Illuminati. Lack of research and a disdain for historical accuracy has led conspiracy theorists to confuse Johann Jakob Lanz, a non-Illuminati secular priest in Erding, and friend of Weishaupt, with Franz Georg Lang, a court advisor in Eichstätt who was active in the Illuminati under the name Tamerlan.

Barruel mistakenly translated "Weltpriester", or secular priest, as apostate priest and subsequent writers such as Webster and Miller have repeated this error. Eckert renamed Weishaupt’s friend as Lanze and had him struck by lightning while carrying dispatches in Silesia. Miller cited Eckert but renamed Lanz as Jacob Lang and placed the lightning strike in Ratisbon. The importance of the papers found on Lanz has also been over-stressed, considering that his death on 10 July 1785 came some time after the first two edicts for suppression — issued on 22 June 1784 and 2 March 1785 — and some time before the mid-October 1786 raids on Zwack and Bassus, and the final edict on 16 August 1787. This is a minor detail in the history but it illustrates the lack of accuracy often displayed by detractors of the Illuminati.

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>>2643676
The Prussian Rosicrucians, under Johann Christoph von Wöllner, began a sustained attack on the Illuminati. Wöllner had a specially engineered room in which he convinced potential patrons of the effectiveness of Rosicrucian "magic", and his order had acquired effective control of the Three Globes and its attached lodges. Through this mouthpiece, the Illuminati were accused of Atheism and revolutionary tendencies. In April 1783 Frederick the Great informed Charles of Hesse that the Berlin lodges had documents belonging to the Minervals or Illuminati which contained appalling material, and asked if he had heard of them. All Berlin masons were now warned against the order, which was now accused of Socinianism, and of using the liberal writings of Voltaire and others, alongside the tolerance of Freemasonry, to undermine all religion. In November 1783 the Three Globes described the Illuminati as a masonic sect which sought to undermine Christianity and turn Freemasonry into a political system. Their final anathema, in November 1784, refused to recognise any Illuminati as Freemasons.

In Austria, the Illuminati were blamed for anti-religious pamphlets that had recently appeared. The Rosicrucians spied on Joseph von Sonnenfels and other suspected Illuminati, and their campaign of denunciation within Freemasonry completely shut down Illuminati recruitment in Tyrol.

The Bavarian Illuminati, whose existence was already known to the Rosicrucians from an informant, were further betrayed by the reckless actions of Ferdinand Maria Baader, an Areopagite who now joined the Rosicrucians. Shortly after his admission it was made known to his superiors that he was one of the Illuminati, and he was informed that he could not be a member of both organisations. His letter of resignation stated that the Rosicrucians did not possess secret knowledge, and ignored the truly Illuminated, specifically identifying Lodge Theodore as an Illuminati Lodge.

>>2643574 the anatomy of fascism by robert paxon

today's isms by william ebenstein

>>2643574
>fascism in general
Das Kapital

>>2643574
The doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile (I'm not sure who wrote it but I think it was him) its the only official ideological text regarding fascism I can think of.
>>2643650
No back to >>>/leftypol/

>>2643479
>Did I miss something?
Yes, two world wars.

Warfare. Shortly after their invention, planes were adopted as tools of espionage. Quickly an armsrace started.

Planes became more and more powerful. Soon, two startegic enemies were in a pissing contest to show their intelligence.

Being able to put craft in space means space weaponry. This petty competition lead to moonmen.

>>2643491
This and the Space Race. it is fucking amazing though

Yes

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The Arab conquest of Egypt had very little impact on the genetic makeup of the average Egyptian. An Egyptian 2000 years ago would probably look more or less the same as a modern Egyptian

>>2643438
They're both indo-europeans

>>2643348
Napoleon, he just used concepts from Gustavus Adolphus and Frederick the Great and had a lot of luck.

>>2643348
Ask General Eisenhower and President Truman.

>>2643348
No. That would be Rommel.

>>2643343
Do you want the job?

>>2643343
Why would you give a shit about the Romans?
The Ottomans and the Visgoths were way better

>pic unrelated

What's the deal with haydrich he seems pretty cool from what little I know of him

>>2643277
Chad was too busy getting his protein* shakes ready.

>* read brotein

will any military ever be as swag as the nazis were? i'm in despair here

Everyone is white except Egyptians

>>2643206
Byzantine Balkans and Anatolia were white. The rest is non-white.

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>>2643206
There were many Armenian emperors.

Armenians cluster with middle easterners

Of course it was. The Nips should thank their stars the British or even the Russians didn't conquer their asses. Would've avoided all that bloodshed from 1941-1945 if the Japs hadn't taken advantage of the European war.

>>2643260
I suppose... but isn't that a little totalitarian?

>>2643407
>implying that British colonialism wouldn't be a net positive for those shitbox islands
Think of all those countless people that died because of Nip imperialism from 1894 to 1945. No Jap war machine and fascist government means millions of people that could've contributed to the arts, sciences, business, etc. I'd say that's a better world than the one IRL.

Reminder that Russian sources are bias and not reliable while German sources are better.

I enjoyed it, beevor has taken some criticism for being unreliable however. I'm not sure of the specifics, someone will be here shortly to remind us.

>>2643212
Well that sucks, don't want to be reading unreliable books, damn

Napoleon exists. There's a reason we don't call WW2 "the Mansteinic Era".

>>2643066
cool, what did he do again beside france?

>>2643066

If he was so good, he wouldn't have lost to undermanned and beaten british soldiers and green americans.

hey kid, do you know how to use a Mobile phone?
or a computer?

do you know what is a screenshot?


are you a virgin?

>>2643041
>Weh weh i'm going to ignore the post because the picture is wonky
Why do christcucks hate catholics?

>>2643028
Evangelicals are terrified of Satan as a real and present force, and are preparing for a literal battle between good and evil to happen some time between 2025 and next week. In that context, Catholicism is Satan's Church, the Whore of Babylon that is going to lead millions into hell and actively support the forces of evil. Why wouldn'they hate them? If people took religion seriously instead of just doing a weekly cultural LARP, they'd understand the position.

No, i can't.

>>2642982
>Japanese """people"""

>>2642982

No but I can imagine the lucky GIs over there who got some bombass pussy.

>>2642906
>you never go through Flanders, Portugal and Spain

>King George will never command you will never have to obey
;_;

>>2642906
I used to watch Sharpe with my uncle, before he moved to Bulgaria, thank you for the sad feels anon, thank you. :'(