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What are some cases where scientists were actually wrong about their theories?
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>>8938864
are you for real?
there is too many to list
are you seriously unaware of stuff like people holding a conviction that Sun orbits the Earth and such?
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>>8938864
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

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When did you realize you're a brainlet?

For me it was when I realized most people don't spend fucking 8 hours working on one HW assignment.
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>>8938563
never
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>>8938563
You can spend 8 hours on one HW assignment because you wanna do your best.
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>>8938581
Yeah but I don't think it should take that long.

One of the problems was to prove the palindrome language over {0,1} is not in DCFL, and I still don't have a decent proof. We can't use the pumping lemma for DCFLs either.

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SCOPE: Basic mathematics, entry-level quantitative mathematics, transitory period between quantitative/applied mathematics and pure mathematics, introduction into pure mathematics. Follow the path, taking from the "smorgasboard" whatever you need.

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>CATEGORY 0 "Pre-Math: Grade School Mathematics":
Elementary Algebra – H. S. Hall & S. R. Knight
Higher Algebra – H. S. Hall & S. R. Knight
Geometry: Book I. Planimetry – A. P. Kiselev
Geometry: Book II. Stereometry – A. P. Kiselev
Plane Trigonometry – S. L. Loney
Statistics - David Freedman

Note: What an ideal "grade school math" curriculum should look like. Probably best to serve as a reference material for those less skilled in quantitative mathematics.

>CATEGORY 0.5 "Pre-Math: Grade School Review":

Algebra – I. M. Gelfand
Pre-Calculus - Carl Stitz & Jeff Zeager

Note: Best review for the most bang for your buck. Successful completion of both books should adequately prepare you for entry-level mathematics.

>CATEGORY 0.75 "Pre-Math: Competition-Style Problems"

Challenging Problems in Algebra – Dover Publications
Challenging Problems in Geometry – Dover Publications
Challenging Problems in Probability – Dover Publications

Note: Will help ensure that foundations are strong, but otherwise wholly optional and most likely not needed.

>CATEGORY 1 "Pre-Math: Entry-Level Quantitative Mathematics":
Calculus: A Modern Approach - Jeff Knisley & Kevin Shirley
Linear Algebra and Its Applications - David C. Lay
Calculus of Several Variables - Serge Lang
Ordinary Differential Equations – Morris Tenenbaum
Introduction to Partial Differential Equations with Applications - E. C. Zachmanoglou & D. W. Thoe

Note: Standard set of topics that define an early STEM education.
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>CATEGORY 1.5 "Additional Topics in Quantitative Mathematics"

Introduction to Probability - D. P. Bertsekas & J. N. Tsitsiklis
Probability and Statistics - M. H. DeGroot, M. J. Schervish
The Fourier Transform & Its Applications - R. N. Bracewell
Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos - S. H. Strogatz

Note: Pure mathematicians can probably skip these books. Applied mathematicians and non-mathematicians will likely find these topics interesting, if not useful or necessary.

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>CATEGORY 2 "'The Transition' and Some Discrete Mathematics":
How to Think Like a Mathematician - Kevin Houston
How to Prove It - D. J. Velleman
The Art and Craft of Problem Solving - Paul Zeitz
Calculus Vol. I & II - T. M. Apostol

Note: This will be the first major introduction into abstract, proofing-based mathematics that defines the field later on. Skilled applied mathematicians should consider continuing in this direction to glean some insight into math foundations, first by challenging oneself to rigorously understand calculus.

>CATEGORY 2.5 "Additional Topics in Discrete Mathematics":

An Introduction to Formal Logic - Peter Smith
Concrete Mathematics - R. L. Graham, D. E. Knuth, & Oren Patashnik
Introduction to Graph Theory - R. J. Trudeau
Algorithms - Sanjay Dasgupta, C. H. Papadimitriou, & Umesh Vazirani

Note: In case HTTLAM & HTPI from the last section didn't provide enough discrete mathematics for your liking.
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>CATEGORY 3 "Introduction to Analysis and 'Pure Math'":
Linear Algebra - K. M. Hoffman & Ray Kunze
Analysis I & II - Terrance Tao
Calculus on Manifolds - Michael Spivak
Topology - J. R. Munkres
Fourier Series - G. P. Tolstov

Note: This will almost certainly be the domain of pure mathematics concentrators, save for the most difficult applied mathematics found in physics and economics.

>CATEGORY 4: "Introduction to Specialized Topics & Further Analysis/Algebra"
Differential Equations, Dynamical Systems, and Linear Algebra – M. W. Hirsch & S. T. Smale
Elementary Differential Geometry – Andrew Pressley
A Book of Abstract Algebra - C. C. Pinter
Visual Complex Analysis - Tristan Needham
Introduction to Gödel's Theorems - Peter Smith

Note: At this point, you can consider yourself prepared to continue onwards into any pure mathematical subject in the modern age (of which there are many yet to be covered), and you'll be more than equipped to handle any applied mathematics that you'll encounter, with further specialization of course. Enjoy mathematical maturity!
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>>8934487

Add these two either category 3 or category 4:

A Classical Introduction to Modern Number Theory - Kenneth Ireland & Michael Rosen

Set Theory - Kenneth Kunen

the harsh realities of life

>>your body is essentially enslaved by your brain, life is recursive slavery of conscious energy
>>it's possible that your parents were not planning on having you and that you were an accident
>>life is all about superiority and dominance, but it has to be unless you want a bunch of 3 limbed mutants walking around
>>size does matter
>>when you die, you are dead for eternity and what has composed you will never exist in the same composition ever again.
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I think the hardest one to understand is the experience of life and death. I can't grasp the concept of nothingness. How is to be dead? How do you know you're dead? How do you become nothing? What is the point of this existence? Why were we made like this? It's terrible to be an AI slave to an alien civilization. I don't want to be turned off. I want to live forever. I want to experience the things I want to experience. I feel complete despair just by thinking about death. I want to exist. I want to exist more. I don't want to die.
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>>8931572
>>8931584
underage, get off my board, reeeee!

This is a board of science, if you want to get over your teenage angst go to /pol.
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>>8931572
You will never know what you had missed upon your death. To you, it will be as though you never were. Your life is only of significance until you are dead.

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So what is everyone in /sci/ majoring in?
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>>8924760
>he hasn't graduated yet
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>>8924760
I'll be starting my Pure Math major next semester!
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Hopefully astrophysics, or something along those lines, any suggestions?

So /sci/,

Do you believe that you're one or the other? Or is this growth mindset bs just a meme to inspire brainlets to make them think that they can become as smart as Einstein?
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>tfw deterministic w/ free-will mindset, just want to keep learning to find my limit.
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>>8942271
Obviously, intelligence isn't static, if you could reliably modify the structure of your brain without breaking things, you would be able to make yourself incredibly smart (or as smart as something can be when made of neurons).

Generally, if you're smart enough to spot a weakness in your intelligence, then you're smart enough to develop some method of making up for that weakness. But there's a difference between intelligence vs. something making up for a lack of intelligence.
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The way I look at it is that everyone's brain has a certain amount of CPU. Some people more then others some people less. Everyone has their personalities which is part of their hardware (brain). Now anyone can learn stuff and we clearly do it's just that not everyone is interested in the same shit. Not everyone gives a fuck about the same things like mathematics and physics. I imagine learning as sort of loading things on your hard drive/memory but what a person is mostly interested will be what they load onto their hard drive/memory. A person's williningness to embrace, avoid challenges, persist, give up, see effort as fruitless or a path to mastery, ignore or learn from criticism and feel threatned or inspired by other people is dependent on their personality/upbrining and is different from intelligence but still related. An intelligent person does not give a shit about things a person that an unintelligent person does.

This viewpoint might make people feel like they aren't so important after (they aren't).

tl;dr skills/knowledge is just loaded onto people's brains to an extent.

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Redpill me on MRIs how do they work? Do they fuck you up?
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>>8941553
>>Do they fuck you up?
No. But the extreme magnetic field can pull in ferromagnetic objects which can fuck you up
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>>8941607
I assume people with shrapnel and titanium joints can't hang out around these
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>>8941607
>>8941618
What happens when someone with a prosthetic enters? Or has some steel in their body? Braces?

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why does the sterilisation efficacy of alcohol max. out at around 90%? what happens above that point in regards to: gram positive, gram negative, viruses, spores, etc?
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>>8940921
lol i don't know
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>>8940921
wat.
why did you have to make a distinction between the organism?
In each organism, as long as the protein denatures, the organism's as good as dead.
Increasing the concentration would inevitably kill the organism, so long as it does not display extremophilic characteristics.
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>>8940927
What. Alcohol has been shown to be less efficient once its concentration increases past 91% with water or so.

I'm a lowly organic chemist so I have no idea why this occurs and why 96-100% alcohol isn't as effective at killing bacteria and viruses compared to 90% with water.

Also, it was my belief gram-negative was easiest for membrane destruction whereas some viruses can actually survive a full wash in 91% alcohol.

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Nonchemistry person here. Why can't we create a catalyst make hydroelectrolysis for hydrogen fuel feasible?
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Hydroelectrolysis aren't the only reason hydrogen fuel isn't being used right now. There are other issues like transportation and hydrogen gas being a gas with low density so you have to use <extremely> high pressures and <extremely> low temperatures to make transporting it in a car or other vehicle feasible. I have heard other ideas such as absorbing the H2 into a metal block or some other shit but that's besides the point. Also, another possibility if H2 is used as fuel is that new kinds of accidents will happen, so, for example, Hollywood style car explosions actually can happen with hydrogen-fuel cars (I have no proof of this but the gist is that terrorists can use the cars to drive into walls and blow them up).

But the reason a catalyst actually matters is because of a thing called overpotential and efficiency in electrolysis. There is also a thing called Hess's law which means that in order to turn H2O into H2 and O2 you have to put the same amount of energy into the water as would be released by burning the H2 in oxygen. Together these things mean that in the electrolysis process an incredible amount of energy is expended and a catalyst will definitely be used to make the process as efficient as possible. By using a good catalyst I'm sure you can save a shitton of energy.

However, you seem to be confused about catalysts. They CANNOT make energy, only make the process more efficient. The maximum efficiency of any process is 100%. Basically you have to "unburn" the water, and that takes, at a minimum, the exact same energy burning the hydrogen gave. But you will probably use up more than you will get when you burn the hydrogen you get as fuel, and you use a catalyst to reduce this additional energy cost. This inefficiency is also a major reason this isn't used. And since the energy to get the H2 is likely provided by burning fossil fuels, it is easier to just skip the middleman and use petrol.
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>>8938330
Because we don't fully understand what causes catalysis. We don't know what catalizes thst particular reaction. As it stands, the voltage requirement for electrolysis of water isn't incredibly high. A bigger problem is that Hydrogen is not our best rocket fuel
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>>8938473
https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2016-03-24-new-catalyst-three-times-better-splitting-water.aspx

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Why isn't curing baldness a Millenium prize problem? It has been a problem that has baffled humanity since antiquity, just like proofs for the impossibility of impossible compass/ straightedge constructions. It is certainly more salient than nerd P=NP autistry.
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>>8941674
There are about 3 Billion dollars worth of stock of Silicon Valley start ups working on that, there will be some novel sort-of-decent treatments for hair regrowth/maintenance in the next 5 years.

Also anon, just relax, baldness is not a reproductive impairment for obvious evolutive reasons, be confident.
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Everyone would prefer to have hair OP, but just be a real stoic and accept the fatum.
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>>8941926
>just shave it off and man up til then, bro

You do know 9/10 guys look like either a potato or a chemo patient with a shaved head, right?

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I took this picture out of the window of an MD-80 cruising at 38,000 feet. I could not resolve any detail with my eye, it seemed to resemble a black flapping bird at a very far distance.

The 35mm film, when developed, showed some kind of discoid or delta shape with what appears to be two tail fins. There is also clutter underneath, like a stack of discs, or some kind of balloon payload. Furthermore, it looks as if it's either perfectly reflective of the blue sky, or possibly even translucent.

It's not lens flare because it's absorbing, and it's not a film emulsion defect because it's been examined under a loupe by camera snobs who confirm it's a two-sided image and the frame is smooth.

It can't be shit on the window, because when I took the picture I pressed the camera lens against the airplane window glass.

Why do this? because airplane glass is double-paned with air between, to help maintain cabin pressure, so you get a nasty reflection from the flash which I wanted to minimize.

The focal length of a 35mm camera is about 4 feet, so anything sharp an din focus had to be outside the airplane. Anything closer than 4 feet would appear as a blurry "zone", and in fact you can see several of those in the full frame.

If you look in the full frame photo, that is not the sun in the upper left, it's a reflection of the flash in the second pane of window material. The yellow band is actually the blurred image of the yellow label of the Kodak 35mm Avantix camera in the second pane of window glass.

So it was definitely outside the plane.


Nothing looking like that should ever be operating in civilian air traffic lanes, ever. So what was it?

t.sciencefag.
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>>8941494
Here's the full frame.
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>>8941494
>>8941496
Well, if you're 100% sure it was outside and not some dirt on the lens/window, then it really is a genuine UFO, now just to figure out what it actually is
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>>8941499
>Well, if you're 100% sure it was outside and not some dirt on the lens/window, then it really is a genuine UFO, now just to figure out what it actually is
i'm 100% sure it is physically impossible to have been something on the window. The blurred image of the label of the camera reflecting in the second pane of glass proves that nothing inside the plane could have been in focus.

And it wasn't the lens, because the frames before and after are clear.

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>at the age of six or seven Kurt suffered from rheumatic fever; he completely recovered, but for the rest of his life he remained convinced that his heart had suffered permanent damage.
>He developed paranoid symptoms, including a fear of being poisoned, and spent several months in a sanitarium for nervous diseases
>Gödel had confided in them that he had discovered an inconsistency in the U.S. Constitution that could allow the U.S. to become a dictatorship
>He studied and admired the works of Gottfried Leibniz, but came to believe that a hostile conspiracy had caused some of Leibniz's works to be suppressed
>Later in his life, Gödel suffered periods of mental instability and illness. He had an obsessive fear of being poisoned; he would eat only food that his wife, Adele, prepared for him. Late in 1977, she was hospitalized for six months and could no longer prepare her husband's food. In her absence, he refused to eat, eventually starving to death
>Gödel was a convinced theist, in the Christian tradition

What the fuck was his problem?
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>>8941213

Gödel was redpilled in a way that bluepilled /sci/enlists and purplepilled /pol/acks could only dream about.
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>>8941213
>his problem
He was mentally ill.
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>>8941213
You have to be a special kind of autismo to BTFO all the world's mathematicians at the same time in a single blow.

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[eqn] \csc \frac{\pi}{7} + \csc \frac{2\pi}{7} + \csc \frac{4\pi}{7} = \sqrt{7} [/eqn]
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0.999
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>>8939945
-1/12
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>>8939929
hmmm...

I define Aleph-pepe as being the answer to this question.

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>Going yo get A- in calc 4
Should I end it?
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>>8939748
yeah there's not much point in going on
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The fuck is calc 4?
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>>8939752
Some places call DiffEq Calc 4. I assume that's what OP means.

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>Old engineering professor
>Uses kg for mass and force interchangeably
>Forces everyone to the CW convention for moment of torque
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should switch to the triple F system:
furlongs, firkins, and fortnights
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>>8939386
>Old physics professor
>Writes Newton's Second Law as [math]\vec{F} = \vec{\dot{p}}[/math]
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>>8939391
sounds Fancy

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