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>pyramids
>egyptians could not build them in {current year}

>easter island
>closest mainland is 2000 miles away and when we got there we just started to sculpt statues

>nazca lines
>can't be seen from the ground
>whale in desert
>spider from amazon with details only seen with microscopes

I don't say aliens, but the official stories given are improbable af. When do you question science?
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>>>/x/
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>>8560167
I agree
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>>8560167
>>pyramids
Yah dude like how in the fuck could it be possible for thousands upon thousands of people to haul giant rocks from miles away and stack them on top of each other over the course of several years like that's just fucking impossible right?? hahahah

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seems like they have their own subculture

Do most math majors become actuaries (why or why not)?

Does it pay higher than a software engineer? seems like SE is the most lucrative path for a math major but what about actuary
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>>8559785
they're pretty lucrative I think
I like math, so I wouldn't want to become an actuary or a SE, no
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>>8559789
I like math too, but I also like money
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>>8559792
you don't like math if you're okay with being an actuary or a SE. they don't really do math beyond trivialities.

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Any tips for writing/structuring good proofs/papers?

I've broken it all down into lemmas, but my lemmas are really awkward to prove because of how trivial they are. I feel like I'm just stating facts and it comes off as weird. I guess the main theorems I have are alright. Although, I'm sure there are still tips some of you might know that could help me make them better.
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If the lemmas are that trivial, why bother making them outside the proofs you're using them for?

Lemmas are really only useful for stating technical results so you don't overload your other proofs with cumbersome details, or repeat the same lengthy argument over and over again.
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>>8559547
I dunno. Having some of the lemmas I have do help my main theorems flow better, and I also felt a bit awkward just claiming something to be true without offering explanation why mid-proof.

I might just trying reading some more papers in the same topic as mine and just try to do what they do as far as brevity/detail goes.
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Try to maintain a colloquial voice in your paper. Try to mimic how richard feynman explains concepts.

Of course stay rigorous in the math, but try to make it sound like a person is behind the paper, not a robot.

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Time for a /sci/ story, bois.

>Be me
>Finish my freshman year in mathematics, great grades
>Decide I am going to prove the goldbach conjecture in my summer time
>Find a new way of approaching the problem
>Start working
>Get distracted
>Start fantasizing about going on national television to talk about my proof and becoming famous, etc.
>Go back to work
>All the "manual labor" is done, time to get some theorems
>Google "theorems about prime numbers"
>A whole wikipedia list of theorems
>Read all of them
>None of them strong enough to help me
>Actually, all those theorems are really fucking weak. They barely say anything.

Why are number theorists such a bunch of light weights? Holy fuck. Those theorems are SO fucking weak.

>Decide number theorists are gay
>Forget their theorems
>Going to prove this through sheer force of will, using nothing but my own work
>Keep fantasizing about getting invited to a top uni to finish my degree and then get 50 PhDs
>Keep working
>Realize Goldbach conjecture is too hard to prove by sheer force of will. Decide to make a weaker conjecture related to my method
>Try to prove it
>My weaker conjecture is too strong, get an EVEN weaker conjecture and try to prove that
>Nothing
>Finally realize my method is potentially flawed and I need to look for another direction
>Go back to wikipedia page about prime numbers, give it another look
>NOTHING
>Gay weak ass theorems
>Decide I still need to prove it from scratch, just need another direction

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

3000 years of number theory for this shit.

>Uh, uhhh there is at least 1 prime number between n and 2n

NO FUCKING SHIT MOTHERFUCKKKEERRRRRRR. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING WITH THAT.

Seriously number theorists, what a fucking gay field. Once I prove the goldbach conjecture I'm moving to algebra because I don't want to be associated with faggots.
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I literally can't believe this isn't bait
>number theorists are bad at math
>all their proofs are weak
>I also can't prove things
>Things I expected to be easy are hard, therefore the people who do them are stupid
here's your reply, now please kys
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>>8559172
>freshman trying to go way above their domain
>realise it's way harder than it "should" be

I applaud your efforts, but really, ambition can only do so much.
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>>8559207
>>I also can't prove things

I can't prove things because I am standing on their shoulders but they happen to also be midgets.

Anyways, the theorems we know about prime numbers are legitimately very vague. They barely say anything useful, specially when you want to prove something very concrete. It doesn't help that every theorem comes with a disclaimer that says:

>IN AVERAGE
>Only valid for "sufficientely large N". How large? idk
>THERE EXISTS some constant so that this is true. What constant is it? Dooooon't look at me ;^)

>>8559217
Nah man I got this. I just got to put all of my power into this.

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Why does this happen?
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>>8558845
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifurcation_theory
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>>8558845

What first anon said. You also seem to have some chaos in your system.
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>>8559296
I wouldn't classify that as chaos, but I can see your point. The number of bifurcations seems to increase drastically after the first one. Anon should slow down his animation or increment by 0.001 after the first bifurcation to see if you can distinguish the higher order ones.

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what happens if you put a stick into a black hole and then pull it out?
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>>8558625
u get ur mum back
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>>8558627
oooooooooooohhhh
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>>8558625
it will get spaghettified XD

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Wow, imagine what kind of crazy alien life has evolved on Europa
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Probably refugees from Mars.
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None, ice is too thick for an impactor to penetrate it. Think more along the lines of Ganymede or Callisto. For frozen world type life.
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>>8557344
Please go back to >>>/reddit/.

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How many different 5 digit numbers can be formed using 1,3,4,6,7,8,9
If the 7 and 4 are used at least once.
Here is what I think first possibility is 4 and 7 appear once so I think its P(5,2)*5^3,and secondly 4 and 7 can appear twice in the number so same logic P(5,4)*5.
So the final count should be P(5,2)*5^3+P(5,4)*5
Did I get that right?
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My approach would be:
How many numbers could you build without the 4-7 rule?
Its obviously 7*6*5*4*3 = 2520.
And then you calculate how many possibilities there are violating the 4-7 rule, which is the amount of numbers you can build without using 4 or 7.
So: 5*4*3*2*1 = 5! = 120
So the amount would be 2520 - 120 = 2400.
Pls correct me if I am wrong.
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>>8556250
2520 that's how many you can build without repeated digits.
The total numbers that can be formed is 7^5
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Think of it this way, brainlet:

You have 5 available slots to fill.

For the first slot it must be a 7, so there is one option there
Second slot it must be a 4, so there is one option there.
Third, we now have 7 available options since we have 7 possible options and they can be repeats.
Fourth, we still have 7 options since we can have repeats.
Fifth, same thing.

So now we have 1*1*7*7*7

We can change the order in which the two predetermined digits appear (in the 4th and 5th slot, for the example), but this doesn't change the answer since it's sequential and using multiplication principle.

Today at work I was thinking about span.

In the textbook I was reading it said that a particular span was: (1,2) (3,6) (4,7) (5,9)

I was trying to figure out the rule for this span was.

something = (y-x)+x

The x is equal to this equation, but this doesnt make sense. Is this a differential equation? I know that it works, but I dont know what it means.

Have I found out something interesting? Or is my idea in correct?
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>>8555994
Span as in, the vector space generated by these vectors in R^2?
Or what
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>>8555997
Yeah.

does any of this make any sense?
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>>8555994
If you are talking about the span of a set of vectors span{(1,2), (3,6),(4,7),(5,9)} is the complete vector space R^2 because two of the vectors are linearly independent and so have to form a base of R^2.

If you have a span in general, let's say span{v1,v2, ... ,vn} (v1, ..., vn are vectors) which are all linearly independent you can write every element v of this span uniquely as v=a1*v1+ ... + an*vn where a1, ..., an are real numbers.

This is in some way related to ODEs (ordinary differential equation) because the solutions to ODEs can form subvectorspaces but the span in general has very little to do with ODEs and because your equation does not have any integrals or derivatives it is certainly not an ODEs or any other form of differential equation.

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Kind of ashamed, but is there a way to guess valid codes you get with a bag of lays without buying bags of lays? Are those just random strings memorised in their database, or does this work like a keygen ?
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>>8554972
Come on smart fellows just a hint
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>>8554972
Ask the NSA to use their supercomputers to do it for you.
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>>8554972

I think you're really in a bad spot to do this.
Post your bank account, I will transfer a few hundreds to you.

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ITT: God tier math youtubers.

other science doesnt matter
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we both know there's only one god.
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>>8554729
You fucking retard. How can you indoctrinate people with your bullshit that real numbers don't exist and only rationals do?

Rational numbers don't exist. Only natural numbers (without 0) do. Since infinitely many notations for rational numbers exist, checking if two of them are equal requires an infinite amount of work which nobody can do. Find one "construction" of rational numbers that doesn't involve all those unrigorous infinite "sets" (cause sets don't even exist) or some shit.
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>>8554742
No.You are retarded.

Whatever you may think about wildbergers views atleast they are not contradictory and if you seriously believe that he is "wrong" you have no Idea about how mathematics works.

Checking that two given rational numbers are equal always requires a finite amount of time.
And he provided a construction for them.

His mathematics are as true as whatever you believe and time will show if his mathematics will give results ot not.

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Please explain this to me. My calculator confirms but I sense some deeper meaning here.

I am not a math major so please try to explain in layman terms as much as is possible.
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>>8554346
-1+1=0 basically
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e^i(pi) = -1
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>>8554346
e^{I*pi}=-1

-1+1=0

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how much does mathematical knowledge really matter in programming?
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>>8554103
Depends what you're programming.
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>>8554103
You are asking: how athletic you have to be to play sports.

To answer that: if you want to be in Olympics, very athletic. If you want to play basketball in your backyard, not very athletic.

However the demand for people playing sports is so high right now, that even people who can play basketball in their backyard can get paid to play.
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>>8554103
>Depends what you're programming.

This, really. We need to break down programming into categories or "industries".

>Mathematical Research

Here is where you need the highest knowlede of mathematics, obviously. You would be literally programming mathematics.

>Simulation

Here you need less knowledge but still a lot. A high level of statistics, calculus, probability theory, etc. Also specifically physics depending on the project but I consider physics to be a subset of calculus and that's already there.

>Mathematics tools programming

This is a field I have the luxury of having first hand experience on but the level of mathematics is not too high. Some understanding of arithmetic, elementary number theory, elementary algebra, statistics and algorithms will be needed. Maybe conside it medium level mathematics.

>General application programming

Understand arithmetic and algebra and you are good to go.

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Really make you think
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>>8553974
With Memedrive, it will.
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>>8553974
This is one of the greatest failure of science. Goes a long way to show how bankrupt and worthless this approach to reality is.
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>>8553997
>People unironically believe this.

Kek.

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Hello /sci/. I'm a college undergraduate majoring in mathematics. For Christmas I thought I'd buy myself a few math textbooks and some programming stuff.

Some topics that I'm looking for are category theory, functional analysis, complex analysis, real analysis, linear algebra, abstract algebra, logic, set theory, combinatronics, topology. Other topics are also welcome if there are good textbooks on them.

Pic is the textbooks currently on my shopping cart. I am not sure they are great but I've heard good things about them here, if you think I should go for something else let me know why and what I should pick instead.
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>>8552641
exceedingly short reviews of a fair number of math texts at various levels
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~abhishek/chicmath.htm
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>>8552641
SICP is free online and somewhat dated. It's a worthwhile endeavor, but only theoretically. Meanwhile Axler is the kind of book you'll have no use for whatsoever after you've worked through it. It's a good book, but one to get from the library.

For Logic, Enderton's Introduction to Mathematical Logic is where it's at. For combinatorics, Concrete Mathematics is where it's at. For Algebra, Dummit and Foote is where it's at.
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>>8552641
SICP is too shallow to be worth your time. If you're not a highschool student or dumbass freshman (or a /g/fag who's deeply impressed by the slightest abstraction), get something with more meat.

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