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Can we get a thread on women from non-feminist perspectives? This can be anything, from literature by the early Christian church fathers, theologians, philosophers, and especially scientists etc
Literature that critiques feminism as well is appreciated, particularly second wave feminism.
Even books that are anti-woman as well, I'd like to have a greater knowledge of the many thinkers who had negative thoughts on women
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basically books on women from non or anti feminist/woman perspectives
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>>9619857
thank you
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did you delete your previous thread?
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S9619385

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I'm about to read this. Is it any good? What should I expect?
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why bother
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>>9619762

Time is money. Don't want it to be wasted for a shitty novel.
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>>9619772
das what im sayin

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How much have you spent on books so far, /lit/?
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upward of two thousand dollars,
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1 (one) kidney
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many money

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What is your opinion of the books that are required reading in American high schools?

If you were in charge of the curriculum, what books would you require high school students read and why?
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>>9619630

do it, pussy
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>>9619630
fuck america
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>>9619630
Depends on the country, i believe every country should study it's essentials.

For America, i'd keep Hemmingway, Melville, Fitzgerald as it is. Probably add The Crying Lot of 49.

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If you're an empiricist, you dont believe in god.
If you believe in god, you're not an empiricist.

Well /lit/?
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>>9619610
>If you're an empiricist, you dont believe in god.

I don't necessarily agree. When I look at the world, I try to do it stone-cold objectively. However, when it comes to the origins of our universe, that is not something you can really observe, so that's where belief comes in. For instance, I think the idea we live in a simulated reality is very plausible. Believing that doesn't go against empiricism because either way I can't see how our universe was created.
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"There ain't no evidentialists in thrownness"
- Will "to Believe" Jamesdegger
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>>9619610

The philosophical level of this threads is simply astonishing. you guys draw implications from things without any actual thinking behind it.

>If you are an empiricist, you don't believe in god.

No. If you are en empiricist, you believe in experience. To say that you don't believe in god, therefore, you would need (a) a working definition of what experience is (b) a prove of how it is impossible to ever experience of god according to that definition.

Now please articulate these two points and we may start debating whether an empiricist can/cannot believe in god.

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What makes a first sentence good or bad?
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>>9619590
Hwat! makes a first sentence good, never bad.
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>>9619590
if it gives some hook/intrigue, introduce one or more characters, gives who is pov for scene, reveals some place and time detail, has some sort of action/motion = it's good

if it is boring fucking exposition or thinking/naval-gazing or some fag waking up or the weather or just fucking boring without at least a hint of tension / conflict / hook = it's bad
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>>9619590
"The rain was beating against the window."

Can't go wrong with that.

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Hey /lit/, let's get Socratic! Post a solid counter-argument to something you believe in strongly.
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i like it when i wipe my ass with too little toilet paper and some poo gets on my fingers and i smell my fingers and am comforted by the smell
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>let's get Socratic
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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>>9619552
Newfag detected. On a side note, this thread could continue under Blacktext

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I'll start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWNc2NwkW74
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what philosophical point?
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>>9619957
t. faggottardonigger
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>>9619406
STIRNER WAS BLOND REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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can any slavs rec me books on slavic heathenism/paganism? thanks
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>>9619341
Veselin Cajkanovic
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>>9619375
very obscure

thanks
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Marija Gimbutas
>inb4 Balts not Slavs

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Let's talk about pseuds, /lit/.

I know we throw it around a lot, but in a serious sense, what makes someone a pseud to you? Can a pseud transcend to intellectualism?

I'd like to preface my theory of pseudism by saying that I'm not claiming to be a true intellectual.

So, I'm doing a philosophy PhD and I like to sit in on undergrad lectures and seminars for topics I haven't covered (and given I did a physics undergrad, that's quite a lot). In those lectures I regard those as pseuds who drop hot fucking opinions as if that's what philosophy is. My dude, you have to argue for a point, you can't just state your opinion as axiomatic. It needs to be well reasoned and backed up by argument. I don't care if it's right, but please try.

>tl;dr What do you think makes someone a pseud? I think it's when you don't properly closely examine your ideas and can't give an argument in favour of them.

Also if anyone else has a giant boner for Hilary Putnam and wants to talk about my research pls do.
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>>9619069
As someone who sometimes feels like a pseud, I define them as people who are "academics" or "intellectuals" because they want to fit into some stratified niche of people -- because it is an easy way to place oneself above most ppl
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I think you're putting too much weight in this term, from my point of view it's mostly a meme thrown around as an easy insult when some anon starts to get pretentious. Also thrown at some (relatively) highly regarded academics like JBP or Bloom for the same reasons.

Either that or I'm the pseud.
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>>9619506
No you're entirely correct

Op has been browsing 4chan too much and takes the memes too seriously.

Like the kind of person who forgets "autism" is an actual mental illness and has a specific meaning outside 4chan terminology.

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>tfw haven't read any philosophy so can't have a true existential crisis
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>>9618988
You'll probably have had some philosophical thoughts on your own. Especially absurdist thoughts.
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>tfw Christian, so can't have a true existential crisis despite being a philosophy major
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>>9619181
Don't tempt me, Frodo.

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Math major here. Completely new to philosophy. What should I start with and who should I read after the Greeks?
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idk read some faggy science shit like popper or sth
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Read Ion, then The Republic, then Poetics, Nicomachean Ethics, then the Parmenides, then The Illiad and the Odyssey, then you're ready for drama. Read Antigone and The Bacchae.
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>>9618865
>who should I read after the Greeks?
Romans

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Whoever of you fags got me into reading Dostoevsky deserves a fucking medal. I just finished Notes from Underground and started Brothers Karamazov and it's superb.

His comments on Christianity, socialism, political philosophy and existentialism seem all so very insightful to me. It's like he is some sort of soulmate. I read Camus' The Stranger in between and he's a brainlet in comparison to Dosto.

Anywho sorry for blogposting but I had to get this off my chest. Let's unravel the state and turn it into the Church.
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>>9618829
>Let's unravel the state and turn it into the Church.

read hegel's philosophy of right.
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In a somewhat similar vein I had a lot of fun reading Anna Karenina and seeing why Lenin feltnit was so important to his brand of communism
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>>9618868
Isn't Hegel the opposite though? Like turning everything into the state? Sorry, but I'm not well-read when it comes to Hegel.

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Good non-genre fiction books that deal with the experience of dreaming, sleep and waking, that kind of thing?
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>>9618810
Finnegans Wake is legitimately great for this if you aren't afraid, and understand you're not meant to understand most of it for a while.
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monitoring this thread
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>>9618810
>>9618871
are you guys interested in other media or just books? I think agency is a powerful thing in this subject.

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So is this the new "OMG we're literally living in 1984" book or like a new version of the "Our current political climate is just like that scene in Harry Potter where _____ happened" meme?
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It's the first big feminist dystopia novel.
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>>9618832
well that makes sense because conspiracy theories about the patriarchy are common in feminism
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>Beginning with a staged attack that kills the President and most of Congress, a Christian fundamentalist movement calling itself the "Sons of Jacob" launches a revolution and suspends the United States Constitution under the pretext of restoring order. They are quickly able to take away women's rights, largely attributed to financial records being stored electronically and labelled by sex. The new regime, the Republic of Gilead, moves quickly to consolidate its power and reorganize society along a new militarized, hierarchical regime of Old Testament-inspired social and religious fanaticism among its newly created social classes. In this society, human rights are severely limited and women's rights are even more curtailed; for example, women are forbidden to read.

>women are forbidden to read.

Basically my dream land.

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