Is symbolism just poor writing?
>>9603640
What? How could you possibly come to this conclusion?
>>9603640
Well, if poorly done.
>>9603640
Do you mean symbols in lieu of a theme or any deeper meaning?
Was John autistic?
Jesus christ what a shit cover
Fag resides above me, cover is dope.
No, he was just civilized
How do I take notes while reading? What's /lit/'s favorite guide to learning how?
This is for things like Leszek Kolakowski's Main Currents of Marxism or Spendgler's Decline of the West, where taking notes will help me process information while I'm reading it, and help me summarize chapters and reflect on what I read 1-200 pages before.
>>9602782
My kindle really got me into the practical use of it in literary fiction and philosophy cause it keeps everything so neat and reaccessible but it's basically simple school learning techniques bub. I just highlight something that strikes me as significant, illuminating, or captures some concept clearly and write what it made me think or comprehend. Highlighting nouns is p useful if you intend on remembering names and places, and ofc highlighting dates is good. Once you have a lot of notes and some way of tying them to the work and page number or whatever you can go a step further and challenge yourself to reorient and apply the information for an added layer of understanding that WILL make you remember it. As an example, when reading philosophers, you can make a table where every figure is a column and you summarize their beliefs on a specific idea in your own words. You'd end up with a table of, Plato, Aristotle, etc etc etc and their view of like ethics or god or something. You can do the same with fictional characters. Always take note of words you don't already recognize and practice applying that & it's roots and forms in multiple ways so you understand it. You're just doing shit you should've learned in school in practice so if you're too smart to actually try just kys, stay dumb and reply
>tfw photographic 180 iq I never take notes lel brainlet
The truly smart people in real life all do this shit
>>9602822
Phonepost so suck my cock for Being written bad gl
>>9602782
I write down short references to parts I think are important (basically description of what was said) along with the page number. If the work is organized into sections, so are my notes. At the end, I reflect and draw conclusions and provide references from my notes as support.
I take all of my notes as though I'm going to use them in an essay. It's very useful because I often do.
china mieville's arms are huge
REEEEE Why are chads infiltrating my hobby?
Fuck, this whole time I assumed China was an effeminate woman because all the works with his name on them seem vaguely chick-litty
I was really fucking wrong on that one.
>>9602763
It's clearly fake. Look at the distortion on the clock.
Like /a/.
>>9602701
Because there's a lot of shit that's far worse that needs to be taken care of first
wsr has shit taste
since this is a /meta/ thread I just want to comment I find it hilarious, pathetic, and totally expected that there are still a shitload of non-literature related philosophy threads on here while /his/ exists
honestly I do wish the moderation was a bit tougher on this, because there is a huge difference between talking about a specific work of philosophy and flamewars over people spouting philosophical opinions
the reason for this is of course the fact that most of /lit/ doesn't read and strict moderation on the aforementioned would probably kill any activity on here for good
What are the best editions of his works? Is it better to get a complete collection, or separate editions of specific works?
>>9602393
Loeb editions, boi
>>9602399
>pleb choice friend.
Loeb editions are good for Greek reference only, with certain exceptions.
My go to is Hippocrates G. Apostle. Very technical and kind of dry to read--lots of "qua"--but it's a faithful translation.
>>9602399
>>9602408
What do you think of the Jonathan Barnes, complete works collections?
>pic related
have you ever tried reading a particular book one chapter a day? how did your retention hold up over time?
I never managed to keep up so strictly with it. Some days I would love whatever book it was and want to read more, other days I would be too busy/tired. The closest I've come is reading Montaigne 4-5 nights a week after my "heavy" reading for the day is done.
My favorite story of someone who succeeded is someone (on lit I think) who read almost exactly 10 pages of Proust every night before bed, finishing "in search of lost time" in just about a year. IIRC he cried when he finished because it had become so much a part of him and his everyday life.
>>9602396
I was going to try this with The Count of Monte Cristo, but the first chapter was so dense, I had second thoughts, envisioning myself either trudging through the pages before bed, or breaking the rule and just wind up making it my main book.
Maybe something like War and Piece, or some long Dickens would be the ideal choice.
>>9602444
COMC is definitely too interesting to pick at. It's long but reads easy and is probably the most fun book I've ever read; I think I only took like a week to finish it both times I read it.
Hey /lit/ there is a particular book I like which unfortunately only has rather dodgy paperbacks. I would like to get a custom hardcover made for it; however the content is not in the public domain.
Can I simply take an epub version of that and go get it printed and bound or would I need to seek some special kind of permission from the publishers/owners of the copyright?
Which book? Sorry I can't help with your question, but I'm curious.
>>9602242
I think it would depend where you try to get it printed. I think if you went to a reputable print shop / stationery / office supply store, they;d likely not print something copyright. But surely you could find some way to do it. I think the real problem would be formatting it to make it readable when printed and bound. Possibly you could buy the dodgy paperback, then get it recovered by a third party. Then the typesetting and formatting is already correct.
Well you can't sell something you don't have the rights to, but if it's just for personal use I think most copy shop employees, especially younger ones, wouldn't care much.
The thing is you'd have to overhaul the formatting in order to print it right, that's probably something you should leave to someone who has experience with printing. You'll need to put the pages in the right order so you can put together signatures to bind, that can be pretty tedious.
Bookbinders these days are probably thankful for every work opportunity they get. Find one who lives near you and ask them.
So my friend's birthday is close and he is not in the happiest moment of his life.
So i was thinking giving him a book as a present, something to encourage him a little.
Can you help me picking a title?
The book must have a guy who is trying his best to
> overcome sadness,
>relationships,
> looking for his future or something like that.
Thank you for your time.
>hey man i noticed you're having a hard time so here's a book that'll let you know how much of a sad sack of shit i think you are right now
Give him Hemingway
Call of the Wild. Because it takes a dog to teach a man to be a man in the world.
Are there any YA novels where the protagonist is does not start as an average teenager in a semi-average household?
I ask because I'm thinking of writing an almost feral protagonist. She has few memories and a rigid worldview that falls apart over the course of the book. But this is closer to villain material than protagonist material.
>>9601853
>almost feral
Golding's Caveman Book
>>9601902
That's not exactly a YA novel in the modern sense.
Who homu here?
what should i read and/or what eldritch rituals should i perform to attract this type of gf ?
>>9601800
try this
>>9601800
Go find some chuuni middle school girl, she'll be easily impressed by your age and won't notice the sexual frustration.
>>9601800
This is just yet another beta-pandering submissive-type girl but with a cosmic gimmick.
Where to go after Great Expectations in Dickens?
>>9601423
Bleak House or David Copperfield
>>9601423
Pickwick Papers
>>9601481
did someone say bleak house
>have to slog through this shit just so i can read what i want
fuck off
your gay
>Comes to lit
>complains about "having" to read something
why am i not surprised
>not just reading Wikipedia articles, the Bertrand Russell chapters on the Greek philosophers, John Green videos, and memes featuring plato
I'm an expert on him now and I've never owned any of his books
Just ordered my first ereader, what can I expect?
It's the original Kobo with wifi. I'm excited. The way e-ink works by flashing to black makes it seem like a screen in a cyberpunk dystopia.
>original
you fucked up. The letters will look real fuzzy due to poor pixel count
>>9601131
shit
>>9601149
I would recommend the new paperwhite. It's got a pretty decent pixel count, so the letters look quite sharp and the backlight is fucking fantastic.
The backlight is the main reason to get an ereader in my eyes.
...Up until God is mentioned.
Feels tacked on and contradicts some of the preceding passages.
You understood nothing nigga.
>>9600996
The first God verses in Ecclesiastes? Yeah. I agree. Ecclesiastes almost reads like an existentialist treatise that got dolled up for (or by) the contemporary clergy.