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Do you guys ever worry that you are becoming less creative with your writing as you get older and that they are becoming less worthwhile because you can't play with them as effectively?

Every year on my birthday I ask for a cheap spiderman action figure as a 'joke' gift. I also ask for 1 random household item to be packaged along with the spiderman. I then try to play with them and create a story based on the playing that I do with the two objects.

Picture 1 is the story I created 5 years ago
Picture 2 is the story from this year.

Apologies for the fonts being ugly, I just typed these up for the thread, I handwrite the stories and my writing is a mess.

I am concerned for myself, because this years story was pathetic, uncreative and stupid whereas 5 years ago I actually made quite a fun and creative story.

How do you guys stay creative? You must have adult lives and struggle with it, right?
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Wow

Just... wow
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>>7334248
Post those from 2012-14 to document your decline.
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incredible work, op

are you seinfeld2000?

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Unless you make a habit of discussing what you have read frequently, reading that is not done for pleasure is quite clearly a waste of time. You will forget just about everything about the book you are reading in about three years. And I mean everything, it will be as if you never even heard of the name. Go ahead and recall fine details from a book you read more than three years ago that you did not need to study for school or for some other work. This effect compounds itself with the more books you read

This is especially true for contents upon which you have little interest, or have no relevance to your life (neither of which are conducive to storage in LTM). If you are reading a book on say, Marxism this is fine as Marxism is very much something you will encounter regularly. But if it is regarding the hermeneutics of Wittgenstein? Forget about it

So put down that dry philosophic tome you are currently forcing yourself through to look smart for /lit/ and just have fun. And remember, life is short
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>>7334192
Life is very long.

my captcha for this was cactus
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>>7334192
>You will forget just about everything about the book you are reading in about three years

this is how you recognize quality books. they're the ones you remember

I'm sorry you're too pleb for this
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Fuck off

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Some time ago there was a youtube thread and /lit/ recommended this guy,

now I see he uploaded a (very positive, so far) review of
>Submission - Michel Houellebecq
and he references a recent (positive) review by Knausgaard of the book.
(Who himself references À rebours by Huysmans.)

So I thought I make a thread and dump those links here and watch/read on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IBT9FkruS0

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/books/review/michel-houellebecqs-submission.html?_r=0

/lit/ seems less favorable of him, if I recall. Is it because they disregard the opinions expressed, or somehow because of the writing?
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>>7334119
sick viral marketing, saged
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>>7334121
Because so many people are on /lit/?
I've never watched a video by the guy and after reading the Knausgaard review am at minute 7 in the clip now.
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This guy is a piece of shit who cares more about his image than any real discussion. Might as well just skim the book's Wikipedia page because he sure doesn't have any insight

He pretty much just makes film reviews now anyway, in other words, he admits he's a hack

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Why did Nabokov call Dostoevsky "a cheap sensationalist"? I can't read Russian, so I couldn't get into an in depth discussion of his prose (the P&V English is great, though), but I can't fathom how that label is remotely appropriate. The sensationalism in Dostoevsky has to do with people being melodramatic or autistic from reading certain books, which leads to results ranging from humorous to tragic. And his works certainly have a lot more substance than that, I mean, for Pete's sake. "Cheap sensationalism" is like dime novels or something, how is work like Notes from the Underground a dime novel?

Did Nabokov just hate how overtly Christian Dostoevsky's work was?
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>>7333970
because dostoevsky was a reactionary with poor prose
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>muh_reforming_waifu.exe
he's totally a sensationalist.
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nabokov was literally autistic. His writing was good but his taste was absolute shit

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What are some good books written in the form of journal entries?
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>>7333918
The Sorrows of Young Werther
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>>7333918
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my diary, to be honest

>>7333924
"Sorrows" are written as letters to Werther's friend, not as a diary.

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>new york times bestseller
>a game changer
>page turner
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>>7333891
I love it when they put labels on books, so that refined patricians such as ourselves know which abominations to avoid.
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>>7333891
>page turner
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>experimental

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Can we have a discussion about note-taking?

Do you write in the margins of your books? Do you highlight? Circle words? Underline phrases? Do you dog-ear the pages of your books? Or do you prefer to leave them unblemished?

Do you take notes with pen and paper? Do you use shorthand? Or do you use a certain program on your laptop? Or maybe just jot down notes on your phone? How do you organize your notes?

Personally, I take notes obsessively. I use pic related mostly for daily to-do lists. I study history so I tend to love my books harshly, filling the pages with marginal notes and highlighter ink. For novels and fiction though I usually take notes on Google Docs or on any notebook paper and then transcribe the notes later. I also make extensive use of post-its and a cork board - I'll jot down authors or works or events or whatever to look up later. I have my own crude system of shorthand but I'd like to learn real shorthand eventually, and develop a better system for organizing my notes.

>tl;dr note-taking general
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I don't think I could come up with a more boring topic of discussion no matter how hard I tried

bravo
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I'm with you on the rough love--my books look disgusting with my tri-color note taking. I recently moved abroad and buying the books I want has become ridiculously expensive, so I've been wondering if anyone has any good suggestions on taking notes while using an e-reader?
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I have a series of notes on individual pages that contain all the male and female characters in the story and some background on them. I can't imagine not doing this since otherwise you can't keep track of thier fucking shit.

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I need to write a short fairytale (500-1000 words) for an assignment pls halp
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>>7333716
Go to the homework help board >>>/hm/

They're very helpful.
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>Two sentence email to my advisor due tomorrow
>Haven't started
How fucked am I?
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>>7333716
>fairytale
>fucking easiest thing to write

I just submitted a five page fairy tale screenplay for a competition last week. It took under 2 hours to write twice as much as what you need to write.

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i wrote a thing.

(ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚
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I hid a thread.
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I see you read some Greeks.

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Does anyone have any suggestions for me if I enjoyed this? I liked the short stories aspect but a full novel/series would be fine

I'm also a huge fan of Book of the New Sun, not exactly the same kinda SF but I guess I'm just looking for pretty original science fiction
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the structure and interpretation of computer programs
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>>7333647
>the structure and interpretation of computer programs
An absolute classic. Good taste.
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Ted Chiang is a boss

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What if we helped each other get published?
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how would we do that?
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>>7333537
someone on /lit/ is doing just that. there's a 50 dollar prize on it to boot.
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>>7333549
sounds like a scam lmao

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As Slavoj Žižek puts it, "desire's raison d'être is not to realize its goal, to find full satisfaction, but to reproduce itself as desire." What did he mean by this?
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probably some pretentious obscurantist way of talking about the will-to-power without actually saying it
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>>7333381
The function of desire is to direct the subject into action, this action has no endpoint, if desire could ever truly be fulfilled it would be the utter logical collapse of the ego when further action is no longer required. Desire therefore is not aimed at completion but presupposes further desire before even the current object is even obtained.

Therefore a desire only reproduces itself as desire.
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>>7333413
Not even close
>will to power not incredibly pretenious and obscuritant

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How do I get started writing fiction? I've read a lot of non-fiction / philosophy and lately I've been enjoying novels by Camus, Sartre and Dostoevsky; ideally I'd like to weave in some existentialist themes.

I've had some very embarrassing experiences growing up that completely put me off writing - one time, a teacher even mocked my story in front of the class. I've always wanted to write but these experiences give me a lot of anxiety even though I'm 28 now.

In addition, I'm pretty much a turbo autist and really struggle with basic social interaction. I'm not sure that I can write convincing dialogue, when I can barely have a normal conversation with most people.

All that said, are there any books / guides you would recommend? Thanks.
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Please help /lit/
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Maybe some Kierkegaard? I don't really know. Sorry opie.
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>>7333363

Seriously, read some good fiction. A couple of very, very good novels or short story collections will instantly give you a better understanding on how to write. As someone who studies creative writing, I can tell you you can practice every day and all that shit they tell you about getting better. But really, the most I've ever learned has been from reading great literature. When you read someone like Dostoyevsky or Carver or Pynchon, really really carefully, and you understand just exactly what they are doing and how and why they are doing it, the next time you pick up a pen and a piece of paper I guarantee you WILL immediately be a better writer than you were before you read that.

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Can anyone tell me about this?
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Yeah Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari could probably tell you a lot.
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Michel Foucualt has you cover. They even included his preface in that book.
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>>7333323

>being crazy is great because it makes you free from capitalism or something like that

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/30minutewrite/

alright, so I see a lot of threads about how to begin writing regularly and consistently (there have been 5 - 6 threads in the past few days?) so I thought I would share something that works for me and will probably work for you if you're struggling

just write for 30 minutes a day

set a timer for 30 minutes, and just be in front of your word processor/piece of paper for that time

no distractions, nothing else

some days, I won't write anything in those 30 minutes

but sitting there every day builds a schedule, and soon you can write regularly

I'm going to do 30 minutes of writing now
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well 30 minutes is up:

I picked up a short story I had previously put on the backburner and wrote 400 words

^______^
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I need to finish a short story I'm working on by mid-December so I can use it as my writing sample to apply to grad school.

I've given up masturbating until it's done.
It's only day three.

I suspect by late-November I'll be losing my mind and the story will somehow become erotica without me noticing.
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>>7333302
This is really fucking good. Even I can commit to 30 minutes. Great advice OP.

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