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Hey /lit/
So I've read plenty of nasty shit.
Hogg, Naked Lunch, American Pyscho, most of Dennis Cooper's stuff.
But anyway, I recently started reading A Child Called "It" and it just made me sick to my stomach.
I like, literally can't stop thinking about it. I feel like throwing up all the time. I keep getting panic attacks.
What do I do?
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Read the second book.
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>>7326760
I mean, like, I know it works out for him.
But I have, like, a phobia of vomiting.
And having someone force you to vomit and then later eat said vomit, is like, kind of maybe too much for me.
Can't get the image out of my head.
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The stuff with A Child Called It and Jack Ketchum's shit is that it's basically just misery porn. You're just forced to endure awful stuff happening to someone over and over and over. It's almost like some sort of emotional abuse.
The way that characters deal with any give situation unrealistically makes it impossible for me to grasp the novel intellectually.
It's like looking at the kind of modern art that shows a variety of seemingly random forms and colors. That too is enjoyable and interesting to look at, but it's impossible to be sure if there actually is a deeper meaning behind it.
What am I supposed to take away from this? Is there an obvious message or is it "just" trying to be interesting and creative?
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>>7326662
Murakami basically said the meaning of the novel was "fuck it there is no meaning take what you want from it"
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>>7326662
>The way that OP makes a post unrealistically makes it impossible for me to grasp the thread intellectually.
What am I supposed to take away from this? Is there an obvious message or is it "just" trying to be interesting and creative?
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>>7326687
it's about a mood
the book captures and explores ennui, existential anxiety, nostalgia all very well
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Did Derrida fucking realize that deconstruction deconstructs itself and undermines its own "position"?
He essentially priviledges sign over being.
(ie sign/being; negative meaning/positive meaning)
Did he ever address this? Or is my reasoning faulty?
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Bumpit
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>the current year
>deconstruction
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(constructive) criticism thread. Post only a sample of something you're working on.
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>>7326506
only read the first paragraph
there's too much exposition in too few words going on there. it's definitely not poorly written at all and i quite like it, but it looks more like you're just throwing out a list of things than writing a narrative. avoid the "She does X, she thinks X, I feel X" format. your writing strayed from it a bit but I still got that same artificial sense from it
>Summers never treat me well. Last summer in particular...
do yourself a favor and either delete this entirely or do some major rearranging. starting off with that is juvenile. if you find it so important to mention the season then find a less forced place to put it, and definitely not right in the beginning like that
not sure what you're going for here and if i did i'd probably be able to give better criticism but if it's "dramatic teenage lovey feelings" then good job you nailed it.
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>>7326561
I actually don't entirely like that line either. This story is actually based on a real person, so I was trying to write things that that person would agree is true, enough that I can imagine he'd say it. And so the mention of seasons are pretty necessary. I'll keep what you said in mind, though.
This is set in high school, so I suppose I nailed it. I don't want it to be a generic "dramatic teenage lovey feelings" story though. It's hard to write honest teenage stories that also sound mature and not-cringy.
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We enter the elevator of my apartment where I live on the 8th floor, so it’ll be about 20 seconds until we reach the first floor, giving me enough time to turn around, kick Lopez in the knee and grab the gun out of his holster, shoot both of them so that when the elevator opens on the first floor, they spill out in a heap, and I have to step over their bodies and then run out of the building and hijack the nearest car so I can drive to Canada where I’ll live out the rest of my life in hiding.
“Come on, this guy is clearly deranged,” is what I can already hear you saying, but these types of thoughts are not actually uncommon or indicative of any underlying psychological issues(there's a chain of footnotes in the story but I'll forgo those here). It’s only a problem when these thoughts are no longer intruders, instead becoming houseguests that comfort you when you realize the lack of control you have over your own surroundings, making you feel momentarily powerful while you imagine the various ways you could drain a bustling coffee shop of its collective effervescence with an AR-15 or maybe a pipe bomb, inaccurately equating fear with respect, but knowing that it’s better to have one than it is to have neither. But I don’t think that way anymore.
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The last critique someone gave me was that my work was "uninteresting" and "boring" so I have been looking for something interesting to write about but noticed that I know absolutely nothing about anything and have 0 interesting experiences.
I cannot get over this and haven't written anything in the past five days. I also have no idea how to get over it and every attempt to do so ends up stressing me and making me fall even further down.
Have you ever felt like this, /lit/?
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Yeah, right now. I enjoy getting criticism but I'm easily bummed out by it because I only really know one way to write, and apparently that way is dog shit.
My narrative voice just sucks. I think I'll just stick to poetry.
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why are you writing if you have nothing to say?
this is a legitimate question
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>>7326648
to speak and yet say nothing is sublime
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Is this the greatest piece of literature that has ever been posted on /lit/?
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Flashbird and that Peaches Jam Farmer (I'm definitely forgetting some details) are way better
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>>7326472
Considering that Tao Lin, Thomas Pynchon, and even Kolsti Nguyen have posted here, definitely not.
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Well, it turns out "Stoner" is shit becausemisogyny
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-stoner-not-so-fast/2015/11/02/9f0ed5aa-7db3-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html
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wen u a mongoloid but u still post anyway
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wait wheres the april fools link
or the hidden onion sublink
can't be real
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What are themes that are still waiting for a great piece of literature to explore them?
To ask in another way, what themes do you feel are underrepresented in Literature
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>>7326411
NEETdom
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Pro-racism
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Radical right wing ideology from a female perspective. This is something that I'm currently working on writing
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Critic thread
Don't be too harsh on the grammar, I just google translated it to english and corrected all the mistakes I could find.
"ESCAPE:
The true artist is not pretentious nor he boasts of his condition; the artist simply, by his very nature, is. Being totally immersed in his art, the subject must do just as he directed by it. This is, usually, in an instinctive, improvised, but essentially, natural way. The artist should not even take into account what others may think or the impact that his actions might have. The artist simply acts; He expresses what he feels and reacts to it. A true artist, however, does not intend to be instinctive or improvised or anything on purpose. The true artist is not aware of this; the pure spontaneity of art is similar to a code installed by default in the DNA of the artist. The artist can be fully aware of his state of art, but has no control whatsoever of the actions that might be motivated by it. It is indeed a mystery. The artist can be very wise and knowledgeable, which is normally the case, but for him, art will always be a mystery. It is this combination, the mystery of art with the intelligence of the subject, which results in the greatest literary, musical and visual works in the history of mankind. The unknown and mystery, fed by the experiences, memories and desires (the flesh) of the subject, generate all the features that make up the work, while the other wise and knowing half is the one in charge of structuring and attach them to each effectively.
It is by all of this, that in the damp darkness of October, at about two in the morning, the streets of downtown Guatemala City were awakened by a poor artist who ran striding through the puddles and rain. Ignacio came running from La Aurora to the center, the only place he could consider safe at that time. In his race to get to his uncle, Ignacio had managed to arouse three homeless men that were sleeping on the sidewalks, and had earned a couple of insults from some drunks from a canteen. Naturally, Ignacio didn't give a fuck about it at the time. He was drunk in his thought, shocked by what had happened, about how he was going to explain it and what he would do now that it had happened. The only thing he had to worry about, at least for now, was to get safely to his uncle's house, just about seven more blocks far: it was near the Central Park. He had two thousand quetzales in cash in his left pocket, along with some gum, and his phone on the right. He ran as the rain soaked more and more."
Any opinions or suggestions? Post yours to critic them too.
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Those are the first lines of the first chapter, by the way.
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I like it
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>>7326119
Ignoring grammar, you have some good ideas. However, the casual language in the second paragraph feels awkward. Normally I'd want some sort of transitional effort to be put into such a switch, but here it's on the edge of working without one. I dunno.
Las Vegas is perforated by homeless. Or so I was told when I first came across the Prom Club. Midnight on the idolatrous strip:the place where money is given tombs, and people given the boot. The splattering of bile and dung on ocher sidewalks; the blistering lights overhead giving shadow and warmth— that when viewed from the air resemble a monolithic fly lamp attracting leaden flights to its zapping embrace. Yes the city of sin, built on the back of Hoover Dam, he had a whiskey sour for a mouth, and a gouging mosquito gaze that reddened eyes.
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>mega-autist
>disdain for irony
>apologetically elitist
>too educated for own good
>love of footnotes and David Lynch
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>bearded
>secretly gay
>will probably kill myself
I hate his books desu (1) senpai (2)
1 - 'To be honest', an acronym that fell out of favor in late 2015 after the t b h/desu switch instituted by 4chan moderation.
2 - Short for 'family', also fell out of favor after the f a m/senpai switch of late 2015 (see 1).
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>>7326084
Wallace was not an 'autist,' unless the usage of the word around here is even dumber than I realize. He was intensely tuned in emotionally (and rather successful in parlaying that into encounters with female fans).
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>autist incarnate
>ugly as hell and corpse-like
>only loves his cats
>faggot
would you use an apostrophe in the sentence "it's history" or would you not.
I mean, the history is possessed by the object, no?
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it's = it is
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>>7326082
This is an exception in which _its_ is possessive (belonging to it) and _it's_ is a contraction of _it is_.
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Where does philosophy currently stand? What "age" are we in?
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>>7326065
At least we're over determinism.
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platonism
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>>7326065
postmodernism
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rec anti-consumerist reads lads and ladies
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Live off the Land in the City and Country by Benson
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>>7325991
>Live off the Land in the City
Is this a freegan thing or an urban agriculture thing?
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adbusters. blew 15 year old me away
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>write microfiction
>insert line breaks
>now it's a poem
why is this lauded
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>>7325925
billy collins deserves to be beaten
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>>7325932
Why?
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>>7325925
It was the year 2015 the year of our lord John Oliver. It's been 2015 for a dozen or so years now. I was waiting on the elevator. Elevators make you think, what goes up doesn't necessarily have to come down, it could just go up and stay there.
Ding.
The doors open and I am instantly doubled over wanting to vomit. The smell is horrendous and overpowering. I manage to look up and see the outline of a fat obese man but I cannot make him out for my eyes water.
I look down and hear
gag
gag
the gurgling of a dick in a mouth on his knees there sat OP the fag
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Books you were surprised influenced your favourites 2015-11-06 00:28:59 Post No.7325876
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Books you were surprised influenced your favourites
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Book that surprised: The Epic of Gilgamesh.
Favourite book: The Old Testament.
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Bump. I know you guys have had some surprises.
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>>7325876
Gilgamesh rules. Check out the Enuma Elish too, if you haven't already.
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>>7326046
That looks really interesting, thanks for the rec Anon.