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So the cold weather is here again, fellow bookworms. What are the comfiest and coziest books to read with the lamp on, coffee on your bedside table and the dark rain pattering away on your bedroom's window? I'm currently reading On the Road for the zillionth time, the coffee is on my bedside table and I'm in bed listening to the rain. Is there anyfink more perfect? And what are some more comfy books to read in a similar fashion?
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Jack London is my go-to for this. Or Great Expectations.
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count of Monte cristo

the secret history

name of the rose

any if the LA quartet books by ellroy


MAXIMUM COMFY
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>Freedom by Johnathan Franzen

I can read it in less then 2 hours, without stopping. Pretty rare for me.

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where do i begin with nietzsche?
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>>7348617
With the pre-Socratics.
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you begin in 9th grade and end in 12th grade
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With his first major work, as you would with getting into any other author/thinker. Then proceed to read the rest of his major works chronologically, as you would with any other author/thinker.

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After seeing Gaddis pop up in a few threads, thought we could have a general talk about our favorite works of his. I've read The Recognitions, J. R., Agape Agape, and I've got Carpenter's Gothic in the mail.

Personally, I think Agape Agape is his most challenging work out of what I've read, and is definitely my favorite. It also was great to read right after reading Wittgenstein's Nephew by Thomas Bernhard.

Has anyone read all of his work, and can provide some insight or thoughts on their favorites? I've not read A Frolic of His Own yet.

And just to get some guaranteed replies, the Recognitions is better than Infinite Jest.
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>>7346941
>guaranteed replies
that's not really that controversial. Now if you said it was better than Ulysses ppl would see through yr b8 easily. But if you say it's better than Gravity's Rainbow then there's a real hornet's nest to kick.

Anyways I loved the Recognitions and still think about it often. It may be one of my favourite books. Most of Otto's parts were funny and sometimes painfully relatable. Oh and just ordered J R.
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>>7346941
I've read all of his stuff and Frolic is probably his best on a technical level but I don't know if I could pick a favourite, he's just absolutely flawless. Although you should read them in order as much as you can so you can see him develop his technique across his career (AA gets even more heartbreaking once you know it's essentially autobiographical and he finished it on his deathbed).
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Currently rereading JR, forgot how much fun it is. The elderly saxophonist trying to join in during a high school Rheingold rehearsal, the eleven year olds reading fliers about vibrators, someone shitting in Bast's piano, the old aunts rambling when Mr Co(h)en's trying to talk to them at the start, it's way funnier than I remembered. I think people make too much of a big deal about how 'difficult' it is which distracts you from how enjoyable it is.

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I need some advice senpai.
All enrolled students are invited to
vote on an eighth novel as the ?students? choice? selection, which will be
required reading along with the above titles.
I have nominated twenty-three novels below, any one of which I would be happy
to include. Please consider these titles, and indicate your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
place choice, and also which one title you wish to vote against. You can email
me a list clearly naming your top three (in order) and the one you?re voting to
eliminate.
Please indicate your top three choices (with a 1, 2, 3) and your least
preferred.

?Gertrude Stein, Three Lives (1909)
?Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Herland (1915)
?Edith Wharton, The Age of Innocence (1920)
?Anzia Yezierska, Bread Givers (1925)
?Willa Cather, Death Comes for the Archbishop (1927)
?Nella Larsen, Quicksand (1928)
?Pearl S. Buck, The Good Earth (1931)
?Zelda Fitzgerald, Save Me the Waltz (1932)
?Zora Neale Hurston, Jonah?s Gourd Vine (1934)
?Betty Smith, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (1943)
?Patricia Highsmith, The Price of Salt (1952)
?Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird (1960)
?Ursula K. LeGuin, The Left Hand of Darkness (1969)
?Joan Didion, Play It As It Lays (1970)
?Leslie Marmon Silko, Ceremony (1977)
?Alice Walker, The Color Purple (1982)
?Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine (1984, rev. 1993, rev. 2009)
?Lorrie Moore, Anagrams (1986)
?Amy Tan, The Joy Luck Club (1989)
?Julia Alvarez, How the Garcia Girls Lost Their Accents (1991)
?Gish Jen, Typical American (1991)
?Dorothy Allison, Bastard Out of Carolina (1992)
?E. Annie Proulx, The Shipping News (1993)
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I'd go with Stein, Le Guin and Didion.
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>>7345537
Stein, Buck and Didion.
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>>7345537
Joan Didion
Pearl Buck
Zora Neal Hurston

Why the fuck did you nominate The Joy Luck Club?

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CALLING ALL WRITERS
I really need some help to write a short story involving the theme of manipulation.
Any help very much appreciated
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BUMP coz I really need help
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Write about your last wank. But write it to make it sound like you are fixing a car/planting a garden/playing music something like that. Multiple layers of manipulation, boom.
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Homework help goes in >>>/hm/

Hey /lit/
I'm a huge sucker for the warhammer universe, especially chaos and the Empire.
Any good novels or anything else I could read? Would love a tale about a witch hunter coming to a small village, infested by a chaos cult or something like that.
Also, what do you think of the warhammer universe when it comes to fantasy universes?
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>>7338463
Pic unrelated btw.
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>>7338463
Reason I'm asking is because I don't want to read a novel if everyone says its shit. And I will more than likely have to pay for it, which would be a waste if it's written by a games workshop intern.
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Try asking in the sf/f thread as well

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/catalonia-lawmakers-approve-2017-secession-from-spain/

What a time to be alive.
I jut finished pic related and was wishing for a conflict to give me some meaningful purpose somewhere.
Anybody know if the CNT or UGT are still around in the area?
Finally a chance to live a life just like my two favorite writers.

This is literature related
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Its funny how when submission was released in France that paper got shot up by Muslims, and peoples response was "oh nonono France isn't racist we don't think Muslims are bad!"
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>>7338441
every time there's a minor terrorist attack in the west the first thing people do is apologise to muslims
anyway I'm waiting for civil war in france to give me purpose so maybe we'll see each other OP
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>>7338430
you will not find precisely a anarchist catalonian.

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I have gotten more interested in esoteric literature where the easiest way to get it is to just go on the internet and read a PDF but I'm scared it'll be hosted on a dodgy site and my laptop will get it's shit fucked up. I run linux mint btw.

Is this is a justified fear? Can you trust PDF's?
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>>7338412
>viruses on Linux
I'm no O/g/ but why would someone write a virus for an OS no one basically uses? Also you can't write a virus into a .pdf extension
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>>7338417
>why would someone write a virus for an OS no one basically uses

even if no one uses it , I'm still massively paranoid that some fucker out there has probably done it.

> Also you can't write a virus into a .pdf extension
wat, what about safe view though? What is that supposed to protect you from if not malicous stuff?
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I've downloaded a shitton of esoteric works and never gotten anything. You buggin my nigga

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/lit/ how do you guys define literature? How do you separate it in your mind from just other writing? Can writings start out as non-literature then later become literature? Can the opposite occur?
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>>7338403
Literature is writing
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I'd say that "literary fiction" challenges the reader while "genre fiction" merely distracts them.
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>>7338420
Would you say there is a similar distinction between art and entertainment? Some music pieces are just kind of fun to listen to, while others are deeply evocative of emotions or perhaps incredibly new in style or composition.

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Wew lads, how does he do it?
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fucker has 150 books. Wow I'm sure they are all gold.
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>>7338157
He has a lot of practice so that must mean he's really good.
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who's "he"?

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Your favorite magazine has just called you. You have THIRTY SECONDS to come up with an idea for their next cover feature. They want groundbreaking long form journalism. GO
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>my favorite magazine
Hahahahahaha
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Travelogue with a minor league baseball team of aging veterans. The sport is dying and so is their ability to save it. Empty bleachers. Dingy hotels. The end of American local pride.
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feature story on the death of an outdated medium

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What do you guys think of Sylvia Plath? i havent read any of her poetry but just started reading the bell jar but am not terribly impressed. its getting more interesting as she is getting more manic, is her poetry significantly better than her novel?
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>>7338043
Almost the same thing before when orson Scott card said he didn't agree with gay marriage. Suddenly the after uneducated feel this is grounds to in discount his in work. Troll harder, spades. Your writing for just isn't on with par with whitey
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>>7338043
I liked it, but my impression is biased - I was awfully depressed when I read it (I'm still in therapy) so I found in the novel 'someone' who knows what shes's talking about.
I highly prefer her journal though. Her downfall is more accurately portrayed, I think it gives a good insight of how clinical depression looks from the inside. It's a shame that her last journal was burned by her husband.

>is her poetry significantly better than her novel?
Yes. Ariel was a fine work, impressive craft for someone as young as she was.
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Her poetry is well crafted - people who dispute that are dilettantes or have Procrustean programs of poetics - but it shows evidence of both her mania and her youth.

She uses imagery and abrupt utterances in a very opaque, lightly surreal, psuedo-prophetic way that I feel is characteristic of mania, having experienced people with it.

I'm neutral on this. I prefer poetry more like Auden's and Stevens where there is a sort of gradual building up of meaning. I also really like the open, emotional poetry of Snodgrass and Larkin. Your enjoyment of her may vary with your taste.

Her youth shows through in the edginess of a lot of the poems. Use of Nazi imagry, that kind of thing. I think it flaws the poetry.

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Was Tolkien a genius or an absolute madman?
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Neither.
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>>7337837
What do you mean by this?
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>>7337874
I wouldn't say he was a genius, and, based on my interpretation of the meme, I wouldn't say he was a madman either.

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Can /lit/ help me list a few writers who had an education in a STEM field? So far:

Dostoevsky - Military Engineering
Gene Wolfe - Mechanical Engineering
Lewis Caroll - Math
Kurt Vonnegut - Biochemistry
Arthur C. Clark - Physics
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Asimov did research in chemistry, then became a full-time writer, then back to chemistry, then back to writing

He even wrote a fake chemistry paper with SF parts to prepare for his return to chemistry

Ted Chiang is foremost a technical writer in the software industry

There are numerous biologists who were also great essayists - Modawar, Gould, Dawkins, Lewin, Lewontin etc.

Primo Levi worked in chemistry too, which is all over his work
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William Carlos Williams was an MD. I think Nawal El Sadaawi is too.
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>>7337753
>Dostoevsky - Military Engineering

I had no idea - how interesting.

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Can we have a humorous /lit/ thread? Would love to change the pace of what I'm reading and pursue some work of literary merit that's also funny.

P.G. Wodehouse, who Hugh Laurie credits with helping him through his depression, is tremendous and his works do not rely on any continuity between novels. The Jeeves novels are a great place to start.

And you?
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>>7337740
For more contemporary stuff, the most common two novels are catch-22 and confederacy of dunces, both of which are top laughs.

The Blandings novels are also funny too.
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Sage and hidden.

Finding things "humorous" is a sign of moral degeneracy.

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