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I enjoyed Bonfire of the Vanities, The Right Stuff and his collections of shorter pieces, Pump House Gang and the Kandy colored blah blah blah

Couldn't really get into the Electric Kool Aid Acid Test - filthy hippies

Thought A Man in Full was just a re-tread of Bonfire of the Vanities with more bs thrown in.

Enjoyed all of his novels.

The Painted Word and From Bauhaus to Our House are very entertaining attacks on modern art and modern architecture respectively.

Here's a good lecture where Wolfe makes fun of modern art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnFjLFNloDUa

>>7357107
That lecture is great stuff. I'm taking an art class right now to fulfill a requirement and he's makes fun of at least five of the artists we've discussed in class.

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>>7356721
The Kingdom of Luna from The Lunar Chronicles by Marissa Meyer.

I'm currently reading "Consider Phlebas" by Iain M. Banks. I'm about one quarter of the way through and there are some interesting parts but a fair amount of redundant text too. Not entirely sure whether to just shelve it at this point.

On the other hand, when I read William Gibson, it feels like there is barely a word wasted. Probably because I have some bias toward cyberpunk admittedly. I just finished Mona Lisa Overdrive and enjoyed that thoroughly.
Did anyone else equate the splitting of the Wintermute-Neuromance AI into lesser AIs with the creation story associated with Gnosticism?

This is like the thousandth thread and still the same chart since before we started having them?

Some things we should add:
The End of Eternity to Golden Age
Spaceman Blues to Modern
True Names to Cyberpunk
Viriconium to Sci Fantasy
Engine Summer to Post Apocalyptic

Grapes of Wrath.

his chapters where he writes from a bird's-eye-view of the situation is some of the best prose in the english language

Of Mice and Men. I crie evry tiem

>>7356578
But I agree with this Anon, GoW has some patrish-tier prose

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I know this is unpopular, but does anyone else agree that East of Eden is criminally over-rated? The descriptive prose is great early-on, but it doesn't save the forced-theme of Adam & Eve, Cain & Abel, and Jungian archetypes, not to mention the foreshadowing that you have to consistently deep-throat if you're anything more than an now-and-then reader. Additionally, I wasn't a big fan of what Steinbeck did with Lee:

>herro missa hami-ton! you like sum tee? tee? okay!

>jk i'm actually really articulate and want to be a philosopher

>lol I'm not going to fulfill negative stereotypes of asians...but I will smoke some opium and sit around with a bunch of other Confucius-tier chinese dudes

I really could have saved some time not reading EoE and just gone through a McGuane collection for the western prose and American hardiness.

feels like amor fati man

The greeks suck retard.

>>>/his/

nothing

it makes me sad that all that great greek boipuss is gone forever and I'll never have any of it

Ending the story on any part before the return doesn't avoid or subvert the heroes journey when he explicit states and gives numerous examples of it happening. Same with killing of the character. Following more than one character doesn't alter the heroes journey at all and having a mentor isn't an integral part of the heroes journey.

>>7356387

In my story.

> Hero kills the mentor before they can get any help
> Third act is entirely different people
> Hero ends stripped of all power, alone, and homeless in an unfamiliar land

Am I doing it right?

>>7356387
your keming is fucked up

No one wants to deal with it, so it's just pure escapism. YA is the name of the game now. No one gives a fuck how some random writer in some random English faculty is innovating narrative structures with bold new forms or whatever.

>>7356376
OP here, do you think that's more of a response to Global Conflict or the structure of publishing and marketing of books now? (I know the answer has to do with both, but that's a really undergrad way of looking at things) The relevant forms must still just be waiting to be discovered and canonized, right?

>>7356388
Part of pomo is the complete breakdown of "relevant" form.

Bakunin

>>7356303
anything in particular?

Conquest of Bread by Kropotkin

Yes

there's no point to being an artist when terrorists are running around a major city killing people and blowing shit up on the reg

you can't make any art let alone a novel that will affect people more than that/

>>7356226
Reminds me of Fahrenheit 451, where the police chief talks about societies evolution into "blur and glut" and the firemen.

>>7356191
is dat grodendack

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>>7356191

messi

Shameless self bump.

>>7356001
When in doubt, Cambridge.

The Cambridge Companion to the Qur'an
Book by Jane Dammen McAuliffe

http://bookzz.org/book/512112/0da0e1

After some brief research, this seems to be the best translation:

The Holy Qur'an Paperback – April 5, 2001
by Abdullah Yusuf Ali (Author)

The Holy Qur'an (also known as The Koran) is the sacred book of Islam. It is the word of God whose truth was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of 23 years. As it was revealed, so it was committed to memory by his companions, though written copies were also made by literate believers during the lifetime of the Prophet. The first full compilation was by Abu Bakar, the first Caliph, and it was then recompiled in the original dialect by the third Caliph Uthman, after the best reciters had fallen in battle. Muslims believe that the truths of The Holy Qur'an are fully and authentically revealed only in the original classical Arabic. However, as the influence of Islam grows and spreads to the modern world, it is recognised that translation is an important element in introducing and explaining Islam to a wider audience. This translation, by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, is considered to be the most faithful rendering available in English.

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>>7356001
Qara'i, Pickthall, Arberry

Blood Meridian

9.5/10

the ambiguity of the ending tore me up inside

The Hero with a Thousand Faces

7/10

Psychoanalytic horseshit, but interesting

Cloud Altas

8/10

Everything was top tier except Lusia Ray

Fuck her.

It's a meme to hate it
It is also a meme book, so there's that

We should sit back and wait for a justification of that statement I would imagine.

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>>7355960

mine tbqh

>preferably women

Why?

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>>7355934
>women
>spent time in complete solitude
Impossible.

>orgoglio

Ehhh I recognize that word. Who /FaerieQueene/ here?

Cara oriana fallaci
La presente missiva del ns. complessino per testimoniare quanto ti apprezziamo e ti stimiamo grandemente, simpatica giocherellona [brutta nazista di merda, devi morire]
Perche' nonostante il fatto che tu abbia un solo neurone come i calamari, sei autrice di grandi opere della letteratura contempornea quali 'lettera ad un bambino mai nato'
[ma era meglio se non nascevi te, ti venisse la pellagra]
E nonostante la demenza senile sei riuscita a scrivere capolavori quali 'oriana fallaci intervista se stessa' [testa di cazzo. chi ti credi di essere]
Ed e' quindi con grande affetto che ti diciamo [che e alla gente come te che gli deve venire lo tsunami]
Ehi ma qui non si riesce mai ad esprimersi bene, noi esprimiamo solidarieta' al cancro che ti divora il cervello. ieri dopo aver letto il tuo libro, in preda all'ira ho sperato che ti venisse la lebbra
Ieri ero ubriaco ma oggi confermo

>>7357260
Vafanculo?
Did i spell it right?

>>7355717
Why do I get the feeling DFW didn't actually say this?

Maybe the fact that he was born in 1962 and there are no results when that sentence is googled.

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>I am a product of the internet
Read: a meme
>an epileptic Flat Stanley
Popular American children book character, flat and bland work of pop culture
>strung out on technicolor heroin
Dude drugs LMAO

>>7355735
>>strung out on technicolor heroin
>Dude drugs LMAO

That one is obviously television. He wrote a 100 page essay in Consider the Lobster saying how great television was and how any criticizing it was a moron.