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So the question is: Where can I find actually good analysis on this book? You guys, what's your opinion?

>>7365637
briefly, what was your analysis on the book?

>>7365668
Shortly:

It wants to express the difficulties of managing society under stress/problems.
Major characters are Ralph, Piggy, Jack, Simon and little kids.
The major elements are the Beast, the signal fire, the huts/shelters, the meat/food, and the Conch.

Each character has their own way of managing the situation, but all are afflicted with a serious weakness that corrupts their decisions and actions.

Ralph's weakness is that he never adapts to the current situation. He manages to seize leadership in the beginning amidst the chaos (because he holds and blows the Conch) and the only argument later is that "because he is the leader". Similarly how wealth and power is inherited. He is not good in anything particularly, and he is only interested in keeping his power and investing in the future. He disregards the huts, the Beast and the food. Common normie dumb low-class reader will place his bets on Ralph and thinks Ralph is the good boy and everyone else sucks and should just respect the authorities.

Piggy is smart but his weakness is that he is too weak to ever enforce his ideas and skills.

Simon's weakness is his isolation from the community. If he hadn't been so retarded, people would've learned that there is no Beast and the signal fire could've be reconstructed.

I find Jack the most important character. He did the right thing, but was inhibited by authority. His major weakness though was resorting to violence and disorder, instead of using the authority system himself like a civilized man would.

The Conch was supposed to be democratic instrument of speech, but instead it just gives more power to those already in power (Jack and Ralph could just force everyone to stfu by showing them the conch, and force anyone to speak by giving them the conch), and doesn't give power to those who are weaker (when Piggy, the intelligent one, holds the conch, people just laugh at him).
Sorry it took some time, the analysis I wrote was in different language so I had to translate.

>>7365465
I don't, but I have an idea about a website where books are cataloged by plot- so as to find new books. The closet thing I could find was tv-tropes literature, but they don't differentiate between main plot and "one character that was mentioned once"

So you could type in something like "main character gets stranded on strange planet" instead of title or author. And then you just get a list of books.

That would be the coolest thing.

>>7365470
How specific would you like it though?

I'm not going to do this because I'm not that far on the spectrum, but it sounds cool I guess.

>>7365474
Well, there'd be different tags per book, but there'd have to be a moderator to make sure there isn't too much deviation, or people wouldn't be able to find a book just because they worded it differently.
"Boy get's lost on a space ship." Where the engine would look for boy, lost, space, ship and maybe also look for teen and young man. If the engine were too pedantic, then it wouldn't work.
That would be my idea at least.

>>7365358
Are you looking for Norwegian authors to read or is this just your "sick #bantz xD"?

Erlend Loe.
Naïve. Super is short, easy to read novel. I can imagine average anon might find the protagonist annoying.
He's mainly written children books tough.

>>7365358
They had one but he was a Nazi traitor so they don't talk about him much

>>7365323
Pynchon is one of the brightest literary minds of this century.

>>7365323
If you go into a science, enjoy it, and understand the principles behind it, then there's a good likelihood that you're autistic.

i was stuck in a psychiatrists waiting room for about an hour the other day
there was an autistic man with his legally appointed aide there
he was completely unaware of the normal whisper tone people strick in doctors offices, he was even speaking slightly above normal speaking volume
he loudly went on about his personal problem for about 30 minutes or more
his main issue was his arguments with his father, apparently he had an irrational desire to wear excessive clothing, that is several, unnecessary, layers of clothing, especially pants.
his father thought this would made him look fat, decreasing his likeliness of ever finding a girlfriend.
this man was using the mannerisms of someone 10 years his junior and his voice was strangely feminine
no, I don't think pynchon is autistic
no, I'm not that man, I was just there for my anti-depressants

Yes. Pessoa is the best writer of the XXs.

>>7365286
It's good, some of it i thought a bit meh but overall nice.

>>7365286

It is definitely worth the read. I was surprised that when I went to Lisbon that Pessoa was so well advertised. Then I realised that it is deceptive, because obviously when you go to any country, they tend to throw their greatest literature in your face. I just ignorantly assumed Pessoa was a bit more obscure because I had never heard it mentioned in England.

In terms of what I thought about it, I thought it was fantastic if a bit dragged out at times. The language is great (I know I read a translation but that does not mean the language is bad by default). The description at points where the emotions become very intermingled with acute self-awareness as well as extreme external perception are fantastically good. It reads like a diary of a grandiloquent self-conscious, self aware, slightly schizophrenic literary master. So yeah, if you like that sort of shit, read it.

Les Misérables comes close. In a lot of ways, I think Tolstoy wanted War and Peace to be his version of Les Mis.

Infinite Jest

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A la recherche du temps perdu

Saramago. The elephant one is the comfier.

man Calvino for certain
cosmicomics and baron in the trees and nonexistent knight and cloven viscount especially.
the EPITOME of comfy

they're like literary children's fables you feel you've already heard long ago. some real sense of faux nostalgia, innocence and magic.

feels like being 12 years old again sitting by the fireplace midwinter while dad gives you impromptu art history lessons and you listen to records and look at paintings in his hardcover books

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Anne McCaffrey's Pern series. The whole thing. All of it.

>>7365079
I saw it on here a little over a week ago, along with Lunar Caustic

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>>7365079
>>7363277
someone mentioned it in this thread as well

Because you havent been looking very well.
Now, are you going to say something about it and contribute with a nice thread or are you just going to whine?

>>7365058
too drunk to think of answers right now, but this post is fucking masterful.

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>>7365058
Raise that kid to be a feminized little kuck, no problem.

>tfw no mortal enemies
>tfw not christian so I don't blame the child for the sins of the father

>>7365057
it will look nice on your bookshelf.

no you can easily find it to download online

>>7365531
this guy gets it.

if anything, ignore the primary and only read the secondary literature on it.

also... /hist/

Sounds like John Marsden's Tomorrow Series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_series

>>7365040
Why don't you call your boss back and ask?

>>7365056
Holy shit bruv, that might just be it. If it is so, I'll be damned, I want to translate that!

>...Nevertheless, [Ellie] is often scared and uncertain of her actions

Fuck. Another bitch whining about being in love and then destroying a fucking big-ass enemy. Is it any good?

>>7364958
hi señor

>>7364958
talk about how Anthony Burgess completely misses the point about human free-will as brute metaphysical fact

>>7364958
Talk about how he was pissed the novel made it so huge since he actually wrote it from the imagined perspective of the rapist who actually fucked his wife

>>7364954
le SJW maymay

>>7364954
Viral marketing

>>7364957
Interesting, I don't know what the plot could be though?

that man is skin stretched over a walking blob of tar. have you ever seen anyone look so cancerous before in your life?

Gonna read it soon since I liked The Elementary Particles a lot, and I like JK Huysmans who apparently the protag of Soumission is obsessed with or something, so should be rad for me.

>>7364932

>Judging a person by its cover

It's pretty good, but the sequels get a little weird.

>>7364678
is this like halo

>>7364684
Same kinda idea, but a much larger scale. Both are Dyson rings. Niven cowrote another series about a Dyson hemisphere called bowl of heaven.