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One main issue I have with this speech is the notion of monopoly Wallace paints higher education with. It seems as though he thinks that university is the only place that could teach you "what to think about". Note, I am not in contention with the statement that I need to learn what to think about. My issue stems from the fact that this can and does occur outside of schooling. Therefore, I don't see the point of claiming that university can teach you what to think about when it is not unique in this way.
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It's been awhile since I've listened to/read this, but I don't think he ever makes that contention. He certainly focuses on the higher education liberal arts thing because it's an address at a liberal arts college.
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>>7359932
However, in a general sense, I do enjoy and agree with this speech.
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I don't think he's saying that it's the only place you can learn it, just that that's the reason you should go.

It would be like saying the reason to go to a grocery store is to buy groceries. There are other things you can do there, but the most efficient use of your time in the grocery store is to buy groceries. If you don't want groceries your time would be better spent elsewhere.

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> "This is another paradox, that many of the most important impressions and thoughts in a person’s life are ones that flash through your head so fast that fast isn’t even the right word, they seem totally different from or outside of the regular sequential clock time we all live by, and they have so little relation to the sort of linear, one-word-after-another-word English we all communicate with each other with that it could easily take a whole lifetime just to spell out the contents of one split-second’s flash of thoughts and connections, etc. — and yet we all seem to go around trying to use English (or whatever language our native country happens to use, it goes without saying) to try to convey to other people what we’re thinking and to find out what they’re thinking, when in fact deep down everybody knows it’s a charade and they’re just going through the motions. What goes on inside is just too fast and huge and all interconnected for words to do more than barely sketch the outlines of at most one tiny littepart of it at any given instant."
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It seems like Hemingway addresses this criticism by suggesting that if we portray characters doing things rather than trying to describe how they feel, the reader will be able to understand how they feel through sheer empathetic brain-power rather than through the conveyance of words.
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>>7359854
i guess maybe if we see an author trying to describe the state of another human being's mind as sincerely and accurately as he can, as doomed an attempt as it is, the same principle would apply?
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Show, don't tell, in a nutshell.

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How much time did it take you to read the divine comedy?
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Why? What's it to you?
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>>7359813
I haven't read it anon
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>>7359820
OP here, probably around 20~25 days, but I am brazilian and my book is english so took a bit more. Also, pretent to come back at it in the future to actually study all the references and all.

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>tfw you read Hamlet and it makes you really want to enact it
>tfw you don't have any friends, let alone friends who share this desire
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Can /lit/ clear something up for me, my English teacher told me Shakespeare plagiarized everything he 'wrote'.
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>>7359807
Your English teacher is retarded.
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>tfw screaming "What a piece of work is a man!" monologue alone out the window into a storm

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What is the most pretentious "red pilled" book ever published?
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>>7359723
infinite jest
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>>7359728
>IJ
>redpill
It's like some people post IJ in every thread no matter the theme.

Incase you're being serious:
IJ isn't even reactionary. It isn't even political.

It's a social commentary.
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>>7359723
pic related. So redpilled even Hitler couldn't handle it.

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I know what happens to Jon snow
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Are you Gorm?
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What's a form? Ha
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Gorm

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Let there be the english poetry thread. We all should know that the best english poet of the last 200 years is Edgar Poe. But who's the second best? I think Rudyard Kipling.
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>>7359573
>edgar poe

OH MY GOD
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>>7359573
>We all should know that the best english poet of the last 200 years is Edgar Poe. But who's the second best? I think Rudyard Kipling.
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I appreciate what you are doing OP. The people on this board only appreciate poetry which they can post with a picture of an androgynous girl attached. I do not like Poe so much, but Kipling is great. Anybody who wants to be a writer can learn a lot from him, if you want to just get a gf through reading (most of /lit/) then don't bother.

I would put forward Hopkins as the best poet of the last 200 years. His voice is unique and the music of his poetry is perfectly matched to everything he describes.

>tfw first discovered The Leaden Echo and The Golden Echo.

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Iranman here. do you remember me /lit/?
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How'd you like the book? Was it worth the daily threads?
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Yes. I bought a copy of that book you were after when we finally found it.
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Have you finished your translation?

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Post your best arguments about the benefits of reading and the reflection, enlightenment, etc. it can bring and why people should read the classics.
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i like it, you might like it. maybe not idk idc
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Girls find it attractive
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>>7359491
>i like to read
>what do you like to do in your free time?

these are actual things i say to actual people. if they also like reading i will ask about the last book they read, favorite books and go from there. if they don't read i don't push it on them

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>look ma i did it again xd
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>>7359361
I don't know about comedy, but this post is definitely a joke.
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your diary, to be honest family

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Any of you guys given this a chance? I was pleasantly surprised, funniest thing I've read since Catch-22
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>>7359290
>Robert Shearman (also credited as Rob Shearman; born 10 February 1970 near London, England) is an English television, radio, stage play and short story writer. He is known for his work for Doctor Who
yeah i dont think so
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>>7359290
Dunno man, sounds like its gonna be whiny babies whining like babies.
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>>7359290
>>7359297
>Doctor Who
no thanks

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>went to the pet shop yesterday
>started looking at the fishes to have some insight at the fish condition
>one fish was motionless staring the oxygen exit
>all the other fishes socializing away from him
>named him fernando pessoa
>after 15 minutes he started moving
>his eyes are white
>I realized he's blind
>he started doing some crazy stunts
>named him borges instead
>bought him and brought home
>put a sheet of paper at my table
>removed the fish from the plastic with water
>started slamming him incessantly at the sheet
>he doesn't seem to write for some reason

I think there's something wrong with Borges. Anyone knows why he doesn't want to write? Pic related, it's him.
Also, any authors who wrote about this phenomenon?
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>tfw there are people on this site so autistic that this story might actually be real
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You killed a fish just to shitpost on /lit/. I am proud.
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>>7359270
That is clearly drawn so the thread is actually reddit-tier

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>there is not a good pdf of Stoner on the internet

how is this possible? isnt this book a meme? theres only one pdf on libgen that is the epub version converted into pdf which really shitty. does anyone have a good pdf of stoner lit bros?
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>reading PDFs
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>>7359148
Why would you ever want a PDF? An epub is the superior format and even then it should convert perfectly to PDF.
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>>7359148
read the sticky you fucking idiot

ITT: we post art that gives us the inspiration to write/read

bonus for comfy art bc i'm ill and the weather is shit
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What are your opinions on this book?
Is it the best to start with Kundera?
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>>7358927
one of my favorite books ever, if not the favorite. i would say, as would most others, that it's his "best" but really all of his works are worth reading imo having read them all. that said, this is an excellent place to start. if you read it and really like, you should do one of two things; if you like the political aspects, work backwards in his body of work. if you like the more literary/interpersonal/philosophical of whatever parts, work forwards. either way you will do no wrong. his non-fiction is also extremely thought-provoking, and short at that.

tldr; just read it!
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>>7358927
the book of laughter and forgetting was the only kundera book I really enjoyed. immortality was also kind of weak for me. but I have friends with good tastes who enjoy all of his stuff. I dunno.
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>>7359032
Same

It's probably my favorite book--I think it's his best. That's only what I've heard though--the only other thing I've read of his was Testaments Betrayed which made me pretty sad (although I wish I read more of his novels since he references them a lot).

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