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I don't know about Werner but you might like to try The Sorrows of Young Werther

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Excellent Sheep by William Deresiewicz

>>7395121
thats what I meant. Honestly though the book was fucking trash and doesnt deserve to be remembered.

world war 3 is finally popping off now that Turkey is pulling NATO into a war with Russia? or you meant someone actually published your scribblings?

>>7395122

The book, you retard

>>7395113

Fuck, i know that feel

start with the greeks, friend

>>7395098
I pretty much just dived into anything I could find. The real problem is deciding which subjects simply aren't worth studying.
And keep in mind you won't actually learn everything.

>>7395098
>Maybe I should just spurn chronology and context and dive into interesting subjects with reckless abandon?

that is the only way to do this and stay sane.

>What's worked for your?

i got a smart friend to tell me what context i need to understand stuff i wanted to study. i.e kant etc to understand hegel.

>Do you have any general advice about this kind of life-long learning project, or specifically how to balance breadth and depth?

breadth is worthless. focus on specific things you like, disconnected as they may be.

>Specific recommendations of readings lists, online courses, or individual texts or authors?

no

>I feel like I'm oblivious about social interactions and analysis at the moment

Tell you the truth, if you don't do drugs and party every weekend the closest you'll get to contemporary social interactions is shitposting on this website and chatting on Facebook.

Not even being ironic or trolling here, I too feel really disenfranchised from today's social scene, but it mostly boils down to it being you laying on your bed texting with your friends...

fortress of solitude by lethem
don quixote

probably something victorian written by a woman too

>>7394986
Cool topic. I taught a class with this as a major strand. Here are a few readings that I'd recommend.
- Cicero, from De Amicitia (44 B.C.).
- Michel de Montaigne, “Of Friendship” (1580); - - Francis Bacon, “Of Friendship” & “Of Followers and Friends” (1625).
- Ralph Waldo Emerson, “Friendship” (1841)
- C.S. Lewis, “Friendship,” from The Four Loves (1958).
- Jacques Derrida, The Politics of Friendship (1991).
- Renaissance literature of friendship: William Shakespeare, sonnets 29, 30, & 104 (1609); John Donne, “Meditation 17” (1624); Amelia Lanyer, “Description of Cookham” (1611); Ben Jonson, “Inviting a Friend to Supper” (1612); Richard Lovelace, “The Grasshopper” (1649); Katherine Philips, “Friendship’s Mystery, To My Dearest Lucasia” & “To Mrs. M.A. at Parting” (1664).
- William Deresiewicz, “The End of Solitude” (2009). http://chronicle.com/article/The-End-of-Solitude/3708 (A cool and provocative essay about friednship in the facebook era).

In summary: friendship up until the Renaissance was incredibly intense and often described in a vocabulary that sounds to us almost like falling in love or finding your other half. Just now, we're a bit more isolated because we all have 1000 facebook friends but not much intimacy. Take care of yourself, OP, and make time to get close to those who seem important.

>>7394778
I don't know if this book had anything to say or it was merely a giant bluff, but i know that it doesn't prove anything. Heidegger provides no proof whatsoever for what he claims. Even if he is saying something, he doesn't prove it. So it becomes a little pointless to try to figure out what he said.

To me Heidegger's convoluted and unscientific style seems to have more in common with psychiatrists than philosophers. I shudder at his grotesquely naive analyses of existence, fear, anxiety, the uncanny, conscience and death.

If you pick up this book at a library or at a second-hand bookshop, you will notice that only the first few pages have annotations and bear signs of having actually being turned. Virtually nobody had ever read this book to the end. But it is routinely listed as a milestone of philosophy. I personally think it represents a milestone of everything that gives philosophers a bad reputation: unscientific, incomprehensible, incompetent, and, ultimately, just plain silly.

Be suspicious of any philosopher who hailed this as a great book. Heidegger stated that Sartre had misunderstood most of his ideas, and that's the biggest compliment ever paid to Sartre.

>>7394782
Agreed. He's like the Beatles of philosophy.

It's pretty necessary for understanding the direction of 20th C. philosophy. But honestly, the most important idea is of ontological difference (check SEP for clarification) and you can get many of the main ideas from some slightly easier reads like the Introduction to Metaphysics.

>>7394746
Just fucking sit down and read stuff that you think you'll care about. Some of the really good stuff, like Dostoevsky or Camus. Aim for reading at about 30 pages an hour. Make sure you do it for a couple of hours a day minimum. Soon enough it should absorb your imagination enough that you realize you need to know more about Raskalnikov's mind and about what happens next. Then you'll be just fine.

>>7394746
You're like me but worse.

Watch films then read then watch films then read, repeat ad infinitum.

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anon, help

>>7394745
The Recognitions

>>7394748
Latest meme trash. Fuck off and read some realism.

>>7394752
Nice bait. 6/8.

>>7394724
dropped it 1/3 into it.

>>7394724
>Dickens.
>Good.
nigga p'lea'se

You tell me, now that you read it.

What do you currently consider as "far right"?

>>7394676
You're probably a really dumb meme conservative and probably just upset about girls or something, so it's probably for the best you stick to the other libertarian neo-nazi meme catholics on /pol/ until you forget what you were upset about in the first place.

>>7394802
tmi dude. didn't ask for your life story.

>>7394675
wow stephen you took care of that fucker.
no such thing as a mafia wink wink

I do like King's character development. He includes so much backstory to his characters but none of it feels forced or uninteresting. It all adds something.

>character development
>plot progression

pleb-tier concerns

Worst poetry that wasn't written by a fag teenager that I've ever read.

his books are fun

>>7394632
Not a big fan of his poetry, but I like his novels and short stories. Nice straight forward lumpenprolecore.

>eugene onegin
>smoke and write

>>7394595

uh Dante, Purgatorio mostly and Paradiso second

probably reread Dante again tonight, or start

>>7394595
>Ulysses
>already home from lunch with grandparents; hopefully seeing the fiancee before getting home to sleep before working a record store on Black Friday

>>7394564
Baudilllard

Truth and Method.

The Lotus Sutra

open to random page

http://www.english.txstate.edu/cohen_p/Irish/Mookse.html

>>7394530
> How should I read it?

With a lot of help from the internet.

>>7394535
Some people recommend that I don't try to analyze it, others say that I should read very slowly and dissect it carefully.

Get her the vampire diaries DVD boxset. The relationship between the Salvatore brothers is both touching and heart warming

>>7394489
A Song of Ice and Fire

>>7394489
Ready Player One.