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Blade Runner

Fight Club

>>7399427
>the movie version of a clockwork orange
>better than the book
Admit it: you haven't read the book

The 2001: a Space Odyssey movie adaption was better than the book imo.

>>7399316
Why aren't YOU reading right now?

>>7399316
I am reading. I just read
>Why aren't you reading right now?

Socrates won't stop explaining word-names to Hermogenes and I needed a break.

>>7399245
The Unexamined Life

Harcore History

Almost anything by BBC 4

>>7399283
I like bbc4s in our time philosophy

The Partially Examined Life
This American Life
The Biggest Problem in the Universe

Epistle to be Left in the Earth by Archibald MacLeish

...It is colder now,
there are many stars,
we are drifting
North by the Great Bear,
the leaves are falling,
THe water is stone in the scooped rocks,
to southward
Red sun grey air:
the crows are
Slow on their crooked wings,
the jays have left us:
Long since we passed the flares of Orion.
Each man believes in his heart he will die.
Many have written last thoughts and last letters.
None know if our deaths are now or forever:
None know if this wandering earth will be found.

We lie down and the snow covers our garments.
I pray you,
you (if any open this writing)
Make in your mouths the words that were our names.
I will tell you all we have learned,
I will tell you everything:
The earth is round,
there are springs under the orchards,
The loam cuts with a blunt knife,
beware of
Elms in thunder,
the lights in the sky are stars——
We think they do not see,
we think also
The trees do not know nor the leaves of the grasses hear us:
The birds too are ignorant.
Do not listen.
Do not stand at dark in the open windows.
We before you have heard this:
they are voices:
They are not words at all but the wind rising.
Also none among us has seen God.
(...We have thought often
The flaws of sun in the late and driving weather
Pointed to one tree but it was not so.)
As for the nights I warn you the nights are dangerous:
The wind changes at night and the dreams come.

It is very cold,
there are strange stars near Arcturus,

Voices are crying an unknown name in the sky

Ah! Sun-flower - William Blake (1794)

Ah Sun-flower! weary of time,
Who countest the steps of the Sun:
Seeking after that sweet golden clime
Where the travellers journey is done.

Where the Youth pined away with desire,
And the pale Virgin shrouded in snow:
Arise from their graves and aspire,
Where my Sun-flower wishes to go.

>>7399092
What makes that poetry apart from the random line breaks?

ayy

catcher in the rye

>>7398997
My diary desu

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>>7398997
I'd recommend The Book of Disquiet by Fernando Pessoa. What you're looking for in a main character seems to perfectly match the main character of this book. You'd probably really like it.

>>7398910
what's the "recommended reading list"

>>7398918
>I've read about three fourths of the recommended reading list
Not too interested in reading American Psycho because an English teacher spent an entire period explaining why Bret Easton Ellis is a hack after someone mentioned the movie.

Shakespeare. Reread one of the plays you read in high school (or didn't read).

>>7398878
people drink a lot less, and a lot less often than alcoholics of old
when you're three bottles a day on repeat, things start to get weird

Do you have any idea what there was to do back in 1800s Russia? The only things the common citizen had for entertainment was getting shitfaced.

but muh brain fever

Save yourself the embarrassment later and don't let yourself continue to think your sister will just read Hitler's book if you give it to her. Have YOU even read it? Almost certainly not.

>>7398849
Yeah, I'm well aware she won't read it...
I've read Elliot's manifesto if that counts. I assume it's similar.

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>>7398857

What if I told you 'word economy' is both 'prose' AND 'storytelling,' and that it's literally the entire craft of writing

A nice prose can save the worst story or even take its place. The best storytelling skills can't deal with an average prose, on the other hand.

>>7398848
I disagree

gonna rec Chicago: A Biography by Dominic Pacyga to all of you. The story of Chicago is the story of the 20th century.

Rubicon

A. Lincoln (from White)

>>7398837
Any recommended reading before this book? It's on my shelf but I haven't read much Roman lit, mostly the Stoics.

Don't take it seriously.

>>7398778
hohoho you are a cheeky m8

It won't do very much to help you in your quest to the top of the literary mountain except to sustain your basic passion for words and stories. Do whatever you want, mang.

Revise. The word is revise.

>>7398728

write

say they write

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>>7398728
>those that
start with the Greeks
>and those that
read genre fiction pleb-tier garbage shite

I read it two days ago. I definitely liked it however I'd honestly only give it 8/10. Something about the work just makes me feel claustrophobic particularly with the copious descriptions of the court and offices.
Is there any translation aside from the muir which is good?
I loved the 'ending' and the dog scene though.

An all time favorite. You will enjoy it much more on your second read.

I think the opening line: Someone must have slandered Josef K (...)
lays it all on the table for you. While I think it's best to avoid rigid allegory when talking about Kafka I think there is definitely an element of equality between K. and the courts in this book, whether that's to mean the courts are tipped off by his peers, run by his equals, or only in the sense that even the highest member of the highest order of high court is still a man - perhaps a dog - like K.

>>7398695
> Something about the work just makes me feel claustrophobic particularly with the copious descriptions of the court and offices.
Agreed.

> Is there any translation aside from the muir which is good?
I read czech translation which seemed to be good. I especially liked very long sentences.

> I loved the 'ending' and the dog scene though.

Why was he executed?


I'd also give it 8/10.

Just finished. Is it good?

I remember that interview he did with Hitchens where he got raped

>>7398647
I've never listened to it, but the summary on RationalWiki (a mostly atheist website) makes it sound like Hitchens loses.

>“What if God did come to this earth in the flesh of Jesus Christ, and he took the punishment from you which you deserve, what if this is true would that be the greatest kindness gift to your life and the world?” Hitchens says no, he does not want anyone dying for him and would seek to have him prevented for sacrificing himself. Todd says “if that did happen, wouldn't it be an act of kindness?” Hitchens answers no, it takes away his free will and gives him no choice but to bad, the son already died and now he [Hitchens] is committed. Todd begins to plea with Hitchens to admit that it would be an act of kindness, but Hitchens does not give in and his answer remains the same. Hitchens notes that he already addresses this in his book, and Todd is not asking something new. Hitchens does not think it is an act of kindness, it is a tyrannical act. Todd asks “you think it is tyrannical that someone sacrificed themselves for you?' Hitchens replies “according to you, he didn't. He was alive again shortly after.” Todd says he did die and we celebrate it called Easter, which has been going on for thousands of years – Hitchens adds in “to no effect.” He was supposed to come back during the time of his listeners, that was a direct promise, and he did not keep it.

He sounds like a child trying to disagree with everything his mom says. Here's how it ends.

>Todd asks Hitchens if the reason he wars against god is so he can live his life autonomously and live his life anyway he wished without being accountable to his creator? Hitchens answers it may be highly probable. And with that, Todd ends the interview.

>>7398562
, and?

>Shadow

Gets me every time.

>>7398562
>>7398572
>shadow

...the hedge hog?