What was the message?
>>7413808
Reading this book to my kids, I realized that my greatest crime was to bring them into the world for my own vanity and desire to love, only to have my most treasured accomplishment decay and rot.
The anti-natalists on 4chan are faggots, but thats only because they cant handle themselves socially, not because they are wrong.
>>7413808
*and suffer
The meaning is silver.
Outside of Nietzsche, Hume, Hegel and Kant, do you need to bother with anyone else?
>nietzsche instead of plato and aristotle
>literally random gibberish without their context
lel
>>7413791
Hobbes and Smith maybe, you know, our Democratic/Capitalist system is based on them.
>>7413800
>Democrat/Capitalist
>Good
What are the best books from the NYRB Classics collection? There are quite a few cheap ones on eBay but because there are so many (many of which sound interesting) I don't know which one to get.
>>7413749
They're already pre-selected for you as Classics. The publisher is guaranteeing they're at least that good.
Why do you need your hand held so far? Read a few synopses. Find one that appeals. If you're asking for favorites, Jansson, Comyns, Manchette, Hrabal, Fermor, Walser and The Long Ships.
Some I liked:
That Awful Mess on the Via Merulana , by Carlo Emilio Gadda
Skylark , by Dezső Kosztolányi
Diary of a Man in Despair , by Friedrich Reck
The Peregrine , by J.A. Baker
Hard Rain Falling , by Don Carpenter
The Land Breakers , by John Ehle
The Long Ships , by Frans G. Bengtsson
Dead Souls , by Nikolai Gogol
The Gate , by Natsume Sōseki
Amsterdam Stories , by Nescio
Butcher's Crossing , by John Williams
The Chrysalids , by John Wyndham
Some I didn't like:
The Three Christs of Ypsilanti , by Milton Rokeach
Morte D'Urban , by J.F. Powers
Nightmare Alley , by William Lindsay Gresham
The War of the Worlds , by H.G. Wells
The Invention of Morel , by Adolfo Bioy Casares
Chess Story , by Stefan Zweig
Bonus mention for hilarious title:
Memed, My Hawk , by Yashar Kemal
Copy-pasted titles from here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group_folder/197995?group_id=2083
>>7413766
What didn't you like about the Casares, Zweig or Rokeach?
I have to do a literary analysis of Robert Frosts "the mending wall" and im having trouble making a thesis. I don't want to google it, or go on sites like moop or spark notes. I was curious if any of you guys had any unique perspectives on this poem.
>>7413739
It's about Berlin.
Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
‘Stay where you are until our backs are turned!'
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, ‘Good fences make good neighbors.'
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn’t it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,
That wants it down.' I could say ‘Elves’ to him,
But it’s not elves exactly, and I’d rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father’s saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, ‘Good fences make good neighbors.'
>>7413742
How so?
>“At this, Eliza and Ezra rolled together into one giggling snowball of full-figured copulation, screaming and shouting as they playfully bit and pulled at each other in a dangerous and clamorous rollercoaster coil of sexually violent rotation with Eliza’s breasts barrel-rolled across Ezra’s howling mouth and the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation extenuating his excitement as it whacked and smacked its way into every muscle of Eliza’s body except for the otherwise central zone.”
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/01/morrissey-wins-bad-sex-award-fiction-debut-novel-list-of-the-lost
>>7413671
>“At this, Eliza and Ezra rolled together into one giggling snowball of full-figured copulation, screaming and shouting as they playfully bit and pulled at each other in a dangerous and clamorous rollercoaster coil of sexually violent rotation with Eliza’s breasts barrel-rolled across Ezra’s howling mouth and the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation extenuating his excitement as it whacked and smacked its way into every muscle of Eliza’s body except for the otherwise central zone.”
>>7413671
quit pulling my leg OP, that's not real.
>tfw no gf
So /lit/, how is your job doing?
Quited on mine yesterday, first job, working for 5 months in a telecom company, answering customers complaints on their TV, telephone and internet problems and trying to fix it. I am single, no kids, no one that I need to support and still living with my parents, so I figure, if I will have to work in a shitty job my whole life, might aswell start it as late as possible.
>living the dream
>in the morning: 1h of greeks, some exercising, vidya and making making some music
>afternoon: 1~2h of greeks, maybe 1h of some pleb shit I want to read, more vidya, movies and more dedication to music making
>night: vidya, 1h of the holy bible before bed
>the full 18h: shitposting
>>7413453
post some of your music senpai
>>7413472
currently at the library, sorry
>>7413453
How do your parents feel about your life?
I still live at home (I'm studying so can't afford to move out). Now that university is over for the year though mum always wants me to play with my little brother, even though I work night shift most nights and can't be fucked playing with a six year old kid. Whenever I sit in my room and read a book she complains that I'm lazy.
>try to read
>neck gets stiff from looking down at the pages for so long
>uncomfortable for the rest of the day
>>7413357
time to change position/warm up/do some stretches
>not doing prereading neck stretches
>being this pleb
>not reading on a neural interface
>he can't name 10 books from the past 10 years that are worthwhile reading
well senpai are you just going sit there or are you going to prove me wrong?
Can you?
>>7413356
I think OP was implying there is no worthwhile books written in the past 10 years
There aren't 10 books worth reading pham
ITT:
>your favorite painting
>your favorite book
pic related
The Sound and the Fury
Probably Hamiltons Mythology
Winesburg, Ohio
>>7413299
I've read 105 pages today. How did you do?
>>7413290
105 pages of what?
>>7413300
this
What book would you give a child for Christmas, /lit/?
iliad
About to read pic related, what am I in for?
/lit/ calling you a pleb, probably.
>>7413226
Like most people here you probably won't see past the sci-fi/fantasy aspects, and this, dear boy, is when your career as a plebeian is marked.
>>7413226
1. Irritating italics telling you what characters are thinking
2. Sand
>tfw when you've been canonized
Library of America putting out a special edition of Wallace's tennis essays. Probably the only thing stopping them from putting out the rest of his work is copyright.
Wallace = canonized. Suck it, haters.
http://www.amazon.com/String-Theory-Wallace-Library-Publication/dp/1598534807
Very sincere post my friend.
>>7413132
Library of America in charge of canonization hur hur hur
wallace = terminal dork, get him out of my sight nurse, he hadn't any talent
>>7413148
hahaha
“For me, the last few years of the postmodern era have seemed a bit like the way you feel when you're in high school and your parents go on a trip, and you throw a party. You get all your friends over and throw this wild disgusting fabulous party. For a while it's great, free and freeing, parental authority gone and overthrown, a cat's-away-let's-play Dionysian revel. But then time passes and the party gets louder and louder, and you run out of drugs, and nobody's got any money for more drugs, and things get broken and spilled, and there's cigarette burn on the couch, and you're the host and it's your house too, and you gradually start wishing your parents would come back and restore some fucking order in your house. It's not a perfect analogy, but the sense I get of my generation of writers and intellectuals or whatever is that it's 3:00 A.M. and the couch has several burn-holes and somebody's thrown up in the umbrella stand and we're wishing the revel would end. The postmodern founders' patricidal work was great, but patricide produces orphans, and no amount of revelry can make up for the fact that writers my age have been literary orphans throughout our formative years. We're kind of wishing some parents would come back. And of course we're uneasy about the fact that we wish they'd come back--I mean, what's wrong with us? Are we total pussies? Is there something about authority and limits we actually need? And then the uneasiest feeling of all, as we start gradually to realize that parents in fact aren't ever coming back--which means we're going to have to be the parents.”
>>7412953
I'm honestly just surprised he's got something to say about post-modernism in general. After what he's written, he doesn't seem the type.
dfw said that shit you imbecile
Why didn't Wallace become fucking Catholic or Orthodox if he wanted order and structure so badly?
Hello /lit,/
How are you keeping yourself philosophically engaged with these dramatically shifting times of revolution, social unrest, and preeminent destruction of society as it is today by way of climate change?
I have given a lot of thought to Nietzsche's Ubermensch, and his overcoming through tragedy. Is there a finer philosopher to read through this new dawn?
What values do you think would be useful to hold onto in the storm? Are there any philosophers that you would suggest to read to help approach these times of calamity?
>>7412899
>living with integrity
>not being a sense driven unconscious animal
>work towards accomplishing something that is greater than yourself in scope and effect
>observe philosophy in nature and yes you moron, this includes human civilization
>draw conclusions that relate the self and the other as an interconnected whole
That's all it fucking is. Just learn to discern what the fuck is Truth. Nobody can do any of this for you
>>7412928
>things things are connected
woah buddy watch it with all them abstractions
>>7412928
>living with integrity
What is integrity?
It's defined based on an unquantifiable amount of parameters that are constantly shifting.
You can't just tell someone to live by integrity and expect it to work. Just think of the first few things that come to mind when thinking of integrity.
- Doing the right thing
- Be a responsible adult
- Show courage
How shallow. How vague.