Where is Hell first mentioned in The Bible? Where are the most important passages describing it?
hell was invented by dante
>mfw christians confuse their fiction fiction with their regular fiction
>mfw christians fear their fictional crime will entail fictional fictional punishment
I'll be damned if the Christian Canon ain't a good read tho
>>7418756
she looks exactly like my sisterdo you have any more of her
It's not mentioned by name, but both John the Baptist and Jesus talk about Hell. Since Jesus is God, you should treat him as an authority on the various realms of the afterlife.
Post your poetry.
I called grandma
I called godfather gene
I got drunk and high whilst talking to high and drunk godfather
I realized I truly knew what love felt like
I called you because I love you too!
Ugly people
Doing ugly things
For ugly reasons
Sick for-the-adults hallmark card broski.
>>7418753
Haiku are stupid
I can never finish them
I want to get a qt girl a present for Christmas who's super into DFW and getting into New Sincerity. I'm pretty sure she has every DFW book, so my plan of getting her a book by DFW is out.
I'm thinking instead of getting her a book apart of the New Sincerity movement. She said that once she wanted to write a great New Sincerity novel from a female perspective, so maybe I was thinking of getting her "selected unpublished blog posts of a mexican panda express employee" by Megan Boyle. But I feel like there are better New Sincerity books by female authors out there. Does /lit/ have any suggestions on that front?
If not, then maybe I was thinking of getting a book by Jonathan Frazen or maybe Tao Lin. What are some good New Sincerity books that aren't by DFW?
thanks senpaitachi (family)
>>7418747
The author you're looking for is Zadie Smith.
>>7418748
Yeah White Teeth is kinda quintessential
>>7418748
/thread
What did /sci/ think of this book? I just finished reading it today.
I thought it was really nice of the author to make the characters robots, so that you can focus on the science stuff instead.
>>7418659
This is /lit/, friend. :)
/sci/ is probably full of autist redditors so I bet they'd love it
>>7418662
I believe that's OP's way of insulting the book...
Should I read it, /lit/? Is it good?
Who's Toni Morrison?
Who's Ta-Nehisi Coates?
Sounds boring from what I've heard
Where do I begin if I want to understand poetry?
And please, don't post any shit poetry. I want the best of the best.
>>7418471
This is all you need: http://www.bartleby.com/146/
Start with Aristotle's Poetics
>>7418471
Is it just me, or does he look like a younger version of the crazy doctor from Fringe?
y/n?
S
the first part about the the greeks is mostly ok. afterwards it gets worse and worse. better try windelbands history of philosophy.
N
Anyone read the Bhagavad Gita?
based krishna
what's good entry level hindu shit?
>>7418416
Yes.
Wagner says that he confessed to him about weeping to a monk. Wagner was a Romanticist, and Nietzsche was a classical philhellene, so it's possible he was trying to slander him for artistic purposes. But at the same time, Christianity is a reoccurring subject in Nietzsche's work, and we're all probably familiar with the infamous chapter in "Antichrist".
One account of this is mentioned in one of Nietzsche's biographies. If I recall correctly, so the story goes, there was a kindly Orthodox monk (I believe perhaps an archimandrite , or somewhere in that eminence range) who was being severely persecuted by the Lutheran Church or state, and he wrote an article on his behalf that led to the monk being exonerated by her. Some time afterward, he saw him in the street and prayed with him, and well, you can guess the rest. Later, he calls on Wagner, who I believe was a bitter enemy of his at the time, to come to his house and he confesses all this to him. Wagner was disgusted, and when Nietzsche saw the look on his face, he said something like "you cannot possibly love me as much as I love you!" From what I remember, the biographer seemed to believe this confession took place but thought Nietzsche was lying about it because of some weird pious complex he has, which seems like a stretch to me. I don't know whether or not he actually confessed this to Wagner, but if he did, I'm inclined to believe he was telling the truth. I mean, who the fuck lies about weeping to a monk?
Another thing... I recognize this has a lot less credibility, but probably like 6 or 7 years ago, I read a post on reddit from some guy claiming to be in contact with people from Kierkegaard''s estate and supposedly they had letters or diaries backing up the claim that he had confessed his sins. According to him, Nietzsche had some weird belief that being absolved by a priest "cleansed" him in some way. I assumed this guy was lying, but the only reason I didn't totally write him off is because when I messaged him for more info, he sent me a link to a translated version of some Danish website where Lou Andreas-Salomé (1st ever female Russian psychoanalyst, who supposedly rejected a marriage proposal by Nietzsche) claims he talked about doing this during a walk. This sounds like a very slavish thing to do, but at the time, confession wasn't viewed the same as it is today, and in particular, the confession to someone from a higher power wouldn't have been viewed as backward (see the depiction of the confession of the the Apostle Paul, Jew, a former Pharisee, in "The Dawn"), so a bunch of philosophers/philologists talking about during a midday walk wouldn't have been that unusual given their value system.
What do you guys think? Have you heard anything about this?
Yes.
>>7418319
Read Ecce Homo.
Anyone else having a hard time keeping up their reading schedule during uni/work?
Ever since the semester started I didn't get to even touch a cover.
Same here. Itd be very different if i was an english major or something but ive spent this entire semester trying to get through the count of monte cristo and am just now passing the 600 page mark. After finals next week ill be able to finish it easily though
How much literature have you read? about how many books, excluding the ones you wouldn't brag about to all your cultured friends?
>>7418295
3-4 months to read a book, do you even remember the beginning?
I often view philosophy as complete rubbish. Mindless mental musing with no goal, direction, or pragmatic capacity.
However, upon expressing these views, I'm often immediately attacked with the claims that science cannot exist without philosophy. That we can know nothing without philosophy. The terms epistemology and solipsism are oft thrown around.
As someone who understands the power of the scientific method but knows little about "proper philosophy", I may be a tad biased and uninformed in my opinion. So I'd like to ask everyone on /lit/: What are your views on the field of philosophy?
It's very big and I shall not generalise.
To philosophize is to learn how to die
>>7418273
>no pragmatic capacity
Pragmatism is literally a branch of philosophy.
Anyway, science is fantastic at using inductive claims to find how probable statements are, but its weakness is just that; it can only claim things are probable. We can use it for a lot of thungs, but its progress is limited to certain feilds and limited uses. True progress comes not from changing the data we analyze, but from changing the way we analyze altogether. This is the biggest reason philosophy is important in my opinion.
Are any of these black classics worth a read? If so, which would you recommend
>>7418265
>black classics
Du Bois, Morrison, Hughes, Douglass, the list goes on...
>>7418265
>The Nose
They're like 80p and like 80 pages long whats the problem
>>7418312
ayy lmao
Trying to write some poetry.
do 'sock' and 'hawk' rhyme?
>>7418247
Yes, also rhyme doesn't have to be perfect.
not in most accents
>>7418254
In what country, the UK? In the US they rhyme
I want to begin studying economics, but I don't really know where to start. With most things it's pretty clear, but I really have no idea here? What is the "start with the Greeks" of economics?
>>7418246
Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell, and Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt (Hazlet? I'm not sure)
Once you get a little more familiar you should read some stuff by Ludwig Von Mises and Freidrich Hayek and Milton Friedman
They'll all dissuade you from all modern Leftist economics beliefs and theories being pushed in our modern age
>>7418369
Not OP but also interested on economics, thanks
Immanuel Wallerstein
Holy fuck,
I am maybe 20 pages from finishing this 730 page book, and honestly I can barely force myself to get through it.
So far, this book contains perhaps 250~ pages of the most beautiful prose I've personally ever read.
There are truly some gems of passages in this book.
Normally you have to dig through dirt for your Gems, but this book makes you dig though boring whinging by a moapy cu-ck, truly depressingly boring metaphysical garbage (no wonder eliot loved this book, its got cu'cks and boring metaphysical attempts at discussing otherwise interesting topics like literature) and some fucking stupid tangents which never reward the reader with anything.
Some of the ideas that encompass the chapters are MARVELOUS.
Specifically episode 15, the play script, and episode 17 where the entire chapter is an overly analytical autism fest in the best possible way, where human meaning is somehow teased out of the clinical language and descriptions.
Its so fucking amazing when it works well, but really it hardly ever does.
Thank god stream of consciousnesses is mostly dead, while we are on the topic.
>expected cheeky bantz and ssj.Dubliners
>got boring whingy stream of cu-cksciousness
WOW
Feel kind of sick that a man could take a love for the Odyssey and turn it into this crap DESU.
I feel disappointed in Joyce, in a way.I feel honestly let down. Because parts of this book are so fucking good that I see Dante or Shakespeare poking their heads out. He could have been a giant and given something entirely new to the world. made something his own.
Now I begin to feel he sits in the "literary pantheon" much the way the soggy Bloom sits in his wedding bed.
Putting Ulysses In the meme-trilogy with Infinite Jest is, in all none-meme'n honesty, an insult to Infinite Jest. Yes I am 100% as serious as cancer.
If you have been considering reading this book, don't.
Go read some "quotes" from it. You will get the few golden scraps.
Disappointed. If I'm ever in Ireland I'll make sure to go piss on Joyce's grave. I'm sure is tiny bleached boner would rise in its grave.
retard
ok
he coulda been a contender he coulda had class