For what kind of reasons do people here not like Catcher in The Rye?
Is it just because Holden is a whiny shit?
>For what kind of reasons do people here not like Catcher in The Rye?
I'm curious where you got this conception because every time the book is discussed, this viewpoint gets lambasted as reddit
>Is it just because Holden is a whiny shit?
Yes, redditors cannot understand a protagonist who they aren't supposed to fully relate to/support
Also the most important part is when he rapes his sister, Phoebe
>>7418225
I got a boner when he raped his sister...
Am I pedo now?
>>7418200
I dont dislike it but i dont find it a good book.
“I can't imagine a man really enjoying a book and reading it only once.”
― C.S. Lewis
What do you think /lit/?
>>7418160
Pseudo-intellectual who thought his ideas were more important than they were.
I read my favorite books more than once, but sometimes I don't.
>not living an average of sixty or so years
>not utilizing the sheer amount of free time that will be at your disposal to reread the things you enjoy
What an odd phenomena the Narnia books are, where no kid actually enjoys them and no adult enjoys them but they imagine kids find them whimsical and charming so the books survive as obligation from generation to generation.
>>7418145
Hey man I enjoyed reading them as a kid.
>>7418145
It is because the books are promoted by Christians.
>>7418193
This - plenty of parents haven't even read them, they just go "Oh, that's a... good, wholesome book? Right?" and another set gets sold.
I myself am not a big reader, and after some google research I still can't find much for ideas.
As part of my University coursework I need to create a short film from a scene adapted from a novel or short story. The piece will be around 7 minutes long, maybe just over.
I am looking for something interesting, something fun to watch and film, and fun for the actors to act in. Must ideally have a female lead role as my close friend has agreed to act and she has spent her whole life in acting schools. This will be for her showreel too.
No idea on genre, but something kooky/arty. Fantasy etc would obviously be hard to recreate, horror can look very tacky unless done well and good plot/production. I'm thinking maybe psychotic? Something interesting though.
Thanks in advance, any help would be great and much appreciated.
If there are strong female lead roles in novels or scenes from a novel that you think would be great please fire away! Will try involve as few characters as possible (saves having many actors)
Pic related, deadline is soon and this is my life generally :)
Is copyright an issue? (no idea that's conditional on it, just getting it out of the way)
The Bear - Chekhov
Is here any author similar to de Sade? I mean perverted and very funny?
>>7418045
it's almost as if you're describing.... the pinecone man
>>7418045
Try Petronius' Satyricon.
>>7418045
Algernon Swinburne, directly inspired by sade, but more beautifully written
i just read steppenwolf by herman hesse,so i'm interested to see your opinion on this book :)
>>7418024
i liked the idea of lonley man,just like i am,and he has some good statemants of people that do small talks and all that fake bulshit society does - being nice to everyone just because me must.
Good book. Now go ahead with your life.
I felt like I was self-inserting myself, so I stopped reading.
Does one have to be american to really appreaciate his works?
Not sure but I'm Dutch and absolutely loved Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
No, but you might have to be a teenager.
I'm not bashing him, he's still one of my favourite authors and the man who got me interested in politics when I was 16, but if I were introduced to him today I might be turned off by the overzealous focus on drug-use.
When you look past this surface impression you'll find an author that really was dedicated to his craft; to the great American virtues of freedom, humour, and truth. He is quintessentially American in this regard.
I'm English by the way.
>>7417895
Are his other works than Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas focused on drugs a lot?
Currently reading this. What's /lit/'s opinion on the book?
I kind of like background stories on Swat-valley and Pakistan, provides nice insight on an otherwise quite unknown culture. Didn't know that this valley was called 'Switzerland in the east' for example.
On the other hand, seems quite fabricated and very much like propaganda during some parts. For example Malala's family is portrayed as saints and the smartest in the region. Could also be due to the fact that she's only 17 when she wrote the book.
Don't read it for the prose though
Why is most pop pleb lit about brown people suffering?
>>7417880
So she go shot up.
She has about as much qualifications to be an author as 50 cent
I get my share of underage crao on 4chan, 2bh.
When it comes to Greek: received pronunciation? or restored pronunciation?
>>7417665
>happy hour
>two hours long
>>7417665
>not being fully incarnated in both pronunciations/spacetimes at the drop of a hat
>while at the same time not succumbing to diachronic fallacy
Where did that ass go?
Just finished The crying of lot 49.
First Pynchon I've read and I liked it, are his other works similar, what did people think of it?
>>7417653
Lot 49 isn't that special, but it's a good novel. Pynchon's just more in his element with longer novels and 49 felt rushed in places, like he was holding himself back from being more discursive.
>>7417653
Crying of Lot was fantastic and it is that special.
>>7417653
Are you sure you liked it? Be sincere, we won't judge you.
weak looking dude, 2bh
>>7417605
>How did you get in here?!
Help, police, there's a strange boy in my office!
Are you just performatively frightening me and I can desconstruct it by performing some parodic acts?
Hello /lit/,
I don't know much about litterature so I'm asking this to you.
It may sound bizarre but I really feel the need to read some "dark, mad, tortured, disturbing" books (though not gorish if possible). I don't know why, I had this obssession of finding this kind of thing through all artistic works (music, cinema, games, paintings, etc.) since I'm 16. Alas, this need hasn't been fulfilled enough, though I've already read great books that are quite like this.
I can't really give you more details but here are my inspirations :
>Paintings :
-Francis Bacon's work
-Zdzisław Beksiński's work (pic related)
>Games :
-Sanitarium (just played the demo but I know I would like it !)
-Silent Hill 2
-The Path
>Music :
As a musician, The Residents or Coil could sum it all up otherwise it would take too long to enumarate it all
>Cinema
-Jaccob's Ladder
-David Lynch's work (like Eraserhead)
>Litterature :
-Les champs de Maldoror from Lautréamont (though I didn't finish it yet)
I've also read some Edgar Allan Poe
So, can you recommend me some books that fulfill those criterions ?
>>7417546
>(just played the demo but I know I would like it !)
>(though I didn't finish it yet)
Twice is too obvious, not bad otherwise.
>>7417575
What do you mean ?
>>7417546
/lit/ would say Lovecraft, but you're better off with Poe.
AproPoe, some of Borges' more macabre work might appeal to you, for example 'A Universal History of Infamy' or his treatment of mirrors as in 'Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius'. The dread and terror in Borges tends to be pretty subtle though.
Also some of Ray Bradbury might appeal to you.
>when he reads fiction
>>7417531
>when she thinks her opinion matters
>>7417541
kthxbai taliban
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ITT: We post authors who are hated here but are critically acclaimed everywhere else
He's a great author for his genre. That's why he always has good reviews. If he were trying to make it in a more advanced or obscure area, he'd probably be laughed at.
>>7417520
no surprise here /lit/ is full of /pol/fags and buttravaged white fuckbois
The Beat Generation, or at least the prominent members.
I just finished most of Wittgenstein. Is there even a purpose at this juncture to read anything of the things he says cannot exist, ie. Spinoza's ethics if those truths are unutterable?
Wittgenstein's stuff has been defeated
>>7417392
>moby
>>7417402
By whom?