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>djvu
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i know right

who made up this shitty file type and why does it keep getting use
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>>7427539
Shitposting is a bannable offence
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>mobi

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What are some good books about secret societies and free masons?
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If I Did It - George W. Bush
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the Illuminatus! trilogy. Purely fiction but it gave me a sense of what everything was really all about
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>>7427445
Freemasonry for Dummies by Christ Hodepp.
It's sadly American, but it covers a lot of material.
Were you wanting intro stuff, or more advanced reading?

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The more I delve into medieval literature, the more it seems as though the Medievals were smarter than us, not dumber. Or at least the people who could read were. There's such a dense intellectualism in all the romances and tales and poems. Even love itself is transformed from this thing ruled by passion to a kind of meditative contemplation. It's operating on a higher level of understanding, of consideration, than a lot of contemporary literature, or at least it seems that way to me. And that doesn't even touch on how heavily symbolic and allusive everything is, how nearly everything has multiple meanings and senses.
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>>7427376
>And that doesn't even touch on how heavily symbolic and allusive everything is, how nearly everything has multiple meanings and senses.

unlike modernity

o wait

>the more it seems as though the Medievals were smarter than us, not dumber

the idea that intelligence waxed and waned throughout history is idiotic

>It's operating on a higher level of understanding, of consideration, than a lot of contemporary literature, or at least it seems that way to me.

do we have a word for medieval weeaboos yet
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>>7427376
selection bias senpai only the best a brightest could read and write and compounding this people don't bother preserving shit
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>>7427376
i think there less to detract from human consciousness back then, from the serf to the noble. there was very little to impede upon mans direct contact with reality, nature, other human beings, the arts, etc. actions back then carried so much more weight, emotions more raw, nature more unforgiving. there were idiots and geniuses like in all time periods, but life was definetly more authentic then than it is now for those of us in the consumer industrial technocrat world.

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Is it possible to have a career as any sort writer without a university education? Note I'm not asking whether one could be a good writer without one.
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Yes very possible
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>>7427193
write twilight, harry potter, 50 shades of grey, or name of the wind. you'll do fine.
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>>7427193
might is right. If you ask me permission to be successful one more time i'll make you get on all fours and show you how to take what you want.

What the longest novel / epic you've read and actually enjoyed through out?
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>>7427187
Count of Monte Cristo, or Brothers Karamazov
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probably The Count of Monte Cristo but i haven't read most of the classic, renowned "doorstoppers" (crime and punishment, war and peace, les miserables, etc.)
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>>7427187
I'm pretty sure that it's War and Peace.

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What does /lit/ think about Regine Olsen's influence on Soren Kierkegaard's work?

In my mind, looking on his life, it seems that following his departure from their engagement he wrote his best work, and that there's a sort of subtext in all of his philosophical discourse of his attempt to cope with not only leaving her, but feeling that he was never worthy to be her husband. Regine herself is a fantastic and intriguing figure on her own, but I'm curious what others think was her influence if any on the works that came out of Kierkegaard following his trip to Berlin (the sight of his authorship of Either/Or) and subsequently her influence on the philosophy of Existentialism due to her influence on Kierkegaard.
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>>7426931

The Regine dynamic is the most interesting part of Kierkegaard imo.

>that there's a sort of subtext in all of his philosophical discourse of his attempt to cope with not only leaving her

I think on his death bed he said how he regretted leaving her. But he probably would've failed as husband due to his autism and depression.
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>>7426931
>tfw you're still on the Greeks so you can't discuss these philosophers yet
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>>7426957
I totally agree on it being interesting. I'm fascinated with the idea that such a broad and important tradition like Existentialism could've been influenced by one man's tragic love.

>But he probably would've failed as husband due to his autism and depression.
I think that's what he thought as well. There's an interesting line in his journals where he says that he wanted to love her and be her husband, but was simply "incapable". It made me think because of how similar it is to how in Fear and Trembling his pseudonym is similarly incapable of understanding Abraham.

>>7426975
M8 just read it, and try to hit the Greeks as well on the way. You can always re-read more modern stuff afterwards anyways, if anything that would make it even more rewarding to see how your views on it have changed. Just give one of his publications a shot and I guarantee you will be happier than if you hold yourself back purposely.

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>>7426899
What's in the box, OP?
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>>7426902
Belonging.

How was your day, anon?
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There is already a tinychat thread

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I'm on page eighty and this book is doing a splendid job of making me feel like a fucking idiot.
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supposed to
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Haven't read it. How does it compare to Gravity's Rainbow?
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You are. It is pretty idiotic to read 80 pages of bad literature

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I need some books that can help push me towards suicide, both in terms of philosophical justification and also in terms of engendering a bleak and depressing worldview, fraught with anxieties about the future.
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>>7426751
Schopenhauer
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Schopenhauer
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Chopin Hour

Seriously, listen to his nocturnes for an hour

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Do you think a certain degree of Infinite Jest's integrity is lost in the fact that nowadays we have google and wikis at our fingertips to explain every little thing we don't grasp from the book. We can do a quick search of every obscure reference so it's like we don't have to really try anymore.
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To try what? First, literature isn't a puzzle-game; and then none of these references even matter in the least anyway
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no

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Only autists look up every little thing.

Seriously, the only literally literary autist I've ever encountered loved Ulysses. Owned every single commentary and monograph on Joyce. Looked up every explanation of every weird little thing on databases.

Dude was a fucking nightmare to talk to and sacrificed so much room in his mind, room for big themes and interpretations, for useless little factoids.

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>A real human being
>And a real hero
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>He was, an Infinite Jest
what a shitty ending
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>>7426695

>And at that moment, Joelle realised that Gately was not only a REAL human being, I'm talking prays-every-day and counts his blessings real, but also, as the events that landed him in hospital show, a REAL hero.
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>Yes, sure, the movie was called Infinite Jest. But Infinite Jest sort of, in a crude way, described Hal's situation. Not to be cliche, but sometimes cliches are cliches because cliches reveal a grand truth. Also, in Hamlet they say "Infinite Jest."
All that revealed in the last chapter

What are the most worthwhile books written by presidents?
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none

politicians haven't been good at writing since athens fell
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Madison wrote part of the Federalist Papers
(but most of it was Hamilton's)
Kennedy supposedly had a ghost-writer for Profiles in Courage. I'm not sure about "While England Slept" whether it was his or ghost-written.
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Jimmy Carter's books are adorable. He has like 18 of them now. He's a really nice man, with respectable and well established ideals.

He has books on everything from specific issues, to stories from times with his friends. Really colloquial and intelligent as a writer.

Probably not what you're hoping for - none of our presidents have been philosophers - but you either get ideology ridden attempts historical revisionism presented as "clearing the air", or you get genuine but not particularly worthwhile.

I haven't read pre-20th century presidents though.

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/lit/ is the only board that has any taste. I need some smaller supplementary gifts for my girlfriend's christmas. She's an English teacher and desu she spends all of her time at home in her reading chair by the fireplace in the winter, and on her porch in the summer. She hardly uses most of her house, or any of the space I could get her something to fill. It just seems trivial to get her anything and it makes things very difficult for me. I'm building her a book shelf because she needs one since moving earlier this year, and I've gotten her a couple of books and a more practical gift(an appliance she needs).

I want one or two cute/fun/interesting/whatever things just to make it more exciting than "hey i got you stuff you need and I made you this thing except you need that too".

So.../lit/-approved christmas gifts? of any sort? please? I'm trying to avoid super cheesy stuff like a mug, but I just feel like books, a book shelf, and an appliance aren't enough.

What are you getting your partner, /lit/?
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>>7426552
Infinite Jest.
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>>7426552
get her a book sculpture cut out to be both of you dancing together made out of her favorite book.
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>>7426553
>>7426568

So no one on /lit/ is buying christmas gifts. Ok.

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And then... ... ... HE MURDERS AN OLD LADY WITH AN AXE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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MOMS
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>>7426503
A B S O L U T E
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"SUDDENLY ___________" - Dostoevsky

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/lit/ whats something that isn't hard to read? My brain is mush after taking the LSAT today.


Anyone else take it, or have taken it? I read enough about the fucking LSAT that it should be /lit/ related.
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>>7426488
Infinite Jest.
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>>7426491
>Infinite Jest
>he lengthy and complex work takes place in a North American dystopia, centering on a junior tennis academy and a nearby substance-abuse recovery center

Wat.
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>>7426488
read some terry pratchett or douglas adams.

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