I want to start reading books and I've found an interesting subject I'd want to read books about. Fantasy, scifi doesn't matter, however the subject should be about assassins. Can you help me at all?
>>7463892
The Assassin Legends: Myths of the Isma'ilis by Farhad Daftary
>>7463892
The Vagina Ass of Lucifer Niggerbastard
>>7463892
The Cuckoldry of the Cuck'd Cuckolds. The most Cucks that will Cuck.
I've been posting on /lit/ for about 2 years now, but I have yet to read anything by DFW. Should I jump straight into Infinite Jest or is there a better starting point? I watched the German Interview and the 2003 Charlie Rose interview; I identified with him immensely.
maybe read some non-fiction before but you don't really have to. Just jumping into Infinite Jest is fine
Read good old neon and save yourself 1000 pages
>>7463849
Thank you for a serious response. Something like A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again?
My brother made a promise to read any book that I want him too and I really want him to get into literature.
He's not an idiot (biochem major) however I don't think he sees books the same way I do and I want to get him hooked.
If you could recommend him one book, what would it be? Any topic is fine because hes a pretty open minded guy.
pic unrelated
Zettels Traum
read the fucking sticky
>>7463009
I have but I'm still unsure where to go. My favorite book is naked lunch which is probably too boring for him.
Are they meme books?
no, the meme books are good.
>>7462441
They're good; but they are not, as autists will sometimes tell you, the best books ever. I feel personally that if Tolkien could see what his novels have done to the literary world he would regret writing them.
>>7462442
/thread
People laugh off image related as juvenile, but I can't help but agree with it. I've been a NEET for 3 years. I'm 22, and don't have any plans to work in the near time, and certainly none to pick up formal studies ever again. I live off of my parents income. I study by investing time reading about the fields of art that I'm interested in, and experiencing these works of art themselves. I'm by no measure an expert in these fields, but I certainly strive to be. My goal in life is to make an exceptional work of art, whether it is an album, a film, a game, or a book. I know fully that I may not be able to live "leeching-off" of my parents for the years to come and that I will be forced to work a wageslave job, but for now I have 0 interest in making money, I do not really aspire to have a big house, or anything alike. My income is experiencing art, and that is available for as much money as the Internet costs.
Everyone I've talked to thinks the lifestyle that I live is pathetic and wrong, but nobody's argument has ever made sense to me. My question, /lit/, is, do you know of any piece of literature that makes an argument for a lifestyle of "laziness"? Or, alternatively, one that opposes it.
Please don't try to discuss much of it with me, I would much rather read about it in the form of a book (otherwise I would have gone to /adv/).
The Ego and Its Own by Max Stirner
That's all you need.
Yeah, see the difference is that Bukowski is proclaiming it a tragedy that this is the way things are. But he recognizes this is how it is. After all, he wageslaved for decades because he knew the only thing worse would be to put it all on his mom and dad or any other person. He knew it's awful, but he wasn't selfish.
You would rather make your mom and dad experience that pain than take it on yourself. Bukowski was a trapped artist. You're just selfish.
>>7459327
This
You really think no one wants to sit at mom's and dad's and explore what they are interested in? That's what high school was for.
A great number of painters, authors, philosophers, musicians, and other kinds of artists lived in Paris between the 1870s and the 1960s.
Do you think Paris is still the bohemian and artistic capital of the world, or it has changed now? Or maybe that such thing does not exist anymore?
Also, what do you think about living the bohemian-artist life? You know, poverty, love struggles, depression, expressing through your art, knowledge, sex, philosophy... Spending all day writing or painting while listening to Chopin ...
Was this way of living killed by pretentious hipsters and that kind of retards?
probly a bunch of english teachers in southeast asia, some place you can live cheap and decadently and not work too hard at the day job and still have time to write
but lets see them actually produce something worth reading and not just getting addicted to underage prostitutes and cheap heroin
>>7457146
I don't know about Paris since I've never been there, but I would assume it's pretty shit, what with a million tourists constantly around and gimmicky souvenirs all over the place. I don't think there is an artistic capital of the world, hell art itself is pretty fucking down right now, art and literature. About that lifestyle, I would love it, but the problem is steady money. I wouldn't have a problem living on the bare necessities, but simply ensuring you have that is hard.
>what do you think about living the bohemian-artist life?
Wish it was possible to live it.
>Was this way of living killed by pretentious hipsters and that kind of retards?
I think it was more to do with the art communities around the world dragging art and literature further and further down the drain. "Pretentious hipsters" didn't cause this, they're just the users.
>>7457163
I don't know, when Greece runs out of money and if they decide to get out of the EU, maybe some place in Greece could be the next 1920s Paris. And imagine if Greece hauled ass out of EU in the early 2020s.
>>7457146
French used to be the lingua franca (no shit) until World War 2, thats why its lost its place as the metropolitan center of world culture.
There is no real center today, its just become less important in general for artists to congregate since its possible to form sub-cultures and connect with other creative people a lot easier today with the internet.
Like this very board for instance, not to overstate its importance but its a place for people with a serious interest in literature to meet up and exchange ideas and views that didn't exist just a couple decades ago.
Can we talk about Conan a little?
or, you know I can just post some pics.
Sometimes you guys recommend eating/sleeping fine, working out and all that shit to be flexy and read and write dope. What is sleeping fine for yall?
>pic maybe related
...For night imparts to everything its black colour. Therefore when we go to sleep or even wake up in the night, our thoughts are frequently almost as bad distortions and perversions of things as are dreams; moreover, if they concern our personal affairs, they are usually as black as possible and even frightful. In the morning all such terrible apparitions have like dreams vanished, as is expressed by the Spanish proverb: noche tinta, bianco el dia (the night is coloured, the day is white). But also in the evening when the candles are burning, the understanding, like the eye, does not see things so clearly as it does during the day; therefore this time is not suited for meditating on serious and especially unpleasant affairs for which the morning is the right time, as it also is generally without exception for all work, whether mental or physical. For the morning is the youth of the day; everything is bright, fresh, and easy; we feel strong and have at our complete disposal all our faculties. We should not shorten it by getting up late, or even waste it in unworthy occupations or gossip; on the contrary, we should regard it as the quintessence of life and to a certain extent treat it as sacred. Evening, on the other hand, is the day's old age; at such a time we are dull, garrulous, and frivolous. Each day is a little life for which our waking up is the birth and which is brought to an end by sleep as death. Thus going to sleep is a daily death and every waking up a new birth. In fact to complete the simile, we could regard the discomfort and difficulty of getting up as labour pains.
>>7467194
Bullshit. Kafka only wrote at night. And it's "blanca", not "bianca".
I be asking how many hours should I sleep and that kind of shit.
I don't know, dude, like 7 hours maybe?
Edmund "it's a fucking dark conceit" Spenser
William "no you idiot, Marlowe died in a barfight, everyone knows that" Shakespeare
John "boner for God" Donne
Thomas "I'm really not central to the canon, huh" Carew
Ben "it's not my fault my audiences are philistines" Jonson
Aemilia "suck-my-taint" Lanyer
David "foster" Wallace.
Would you get this as a Christmas gift?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/amaranthinebooks/the-strange-case-of-dr-jekyll-and-mr-hyde
fetishizing objects is for freaks
this is a board to discuss literature. not christmas gifts. go away
>>7466497
it's actually for humans
It's the most normal thing in the world
Will one of you fucking assholes prove why "stream of consciousness" narrative mode is in any way a redeemable quality to any work of fiction?
Why the fuck is anything in written in bullshit ass stream of consciousness considered good? Why is it considered anything more than a bullshit ass cop-out by the writer to "appear" good?
Someone prove to me why stream of consciousness is "good."
A technique isn't intrinsically "good" or "bad", faglout.
>>7466053
Nothing is redeemable: intrinsic value is a spook.
Why do people make use of memes so much?
Does the use of greentext and memeing happens because of an unconscious 'satisfaction' of the poster given by the false sense of community?
What occurs in someone's mind, when posting something like
>start with the greeks
>reading translations
>being this pleb
? Why leaving the message makes the poster more happy than don't leaving the message? Memeing and greentext are not, for the most part, elements of discussion, each merely states a fact that is taken as a community-given, looking like a fragment of a framework on which the whole rests.
>>7465901
It's a way of affirming the community while excluding outsiders (those who don't "get" it). It's an animal instinct.
>>7465901
Why do you write in the language you write in?
pure ideology
Which are the best extraordinary voyages?
Sailing the circumference of your mother.
>>7465640
Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea
The Mysterious Island (be sure to read Leagues first)
also, Verne >>>>> Wells
Around the World in Eighty Days
Tell me how to run away from adulthood. I'm here so I'm halfway there, but being unemployed would be living on a prayer.
>>7465408
>Tell me how to run away from adulthood.
Play a whole lot of video games and watch a whole lot of anime and superhero movies.
>>7465418
Shitpost on /lit/ like a two dollar faggot
>>7465432
catch feelings on /lit/ like an absolute spergtron
Hi /lit, so, long story short is that I am working on something and one of my character is a war veteran who is highly traumatised by things he had seen and so on. As a resource and inspiration I'm looking for books that depict soldier's life and the tragedy that is war. You know. I've read most of classics like Slaughterhouse numer 5 or some petry by war poets, but still I want more. Also I am from a country that was almost completely destroyed by WWII so I find it hard to find good books in my language because it is still all too fresh. So anyway I am looking for books about war without too much deification and that aren't anachronical if it is possible. Xoxo guys
Storm of Steel - Jünger
Under Fire - Barbusse
All Quiet on the Western Front - Remarque
>>7465490
Under Fire is one of the most powerful book I've ever read. The prose is sublime and made me feel down to my bones, after having studied it for the years, what it felt like to be in the Trenches.
>>7465396
>That sweet Isenheim altarpiece structure