Any comments on Flaubert's Madame Bovary?
Mhm.
Flaubert is top three French writers, including playwrights
Fuck everyone that disagrees
inb4 monolingual plebs start moaning about Hugo and touching themselves
i read vargas llosa 'la nina mala' and after i read it they told me i needed to read bovary first so im doing that.
>>7463711
Sounds like you're mistaking /lit/ with reddit
best book to gift le gf this xmas? also alpha male general
wizards keep out
you cannot banish me puny mortal
>this wizard guy again
>should just rezz that guy
>gotta get my chips tomorrow though
I saw this thread on /tv, and I thought I would try to bring it here, on lit, for a more thorough discussion. I'm sure you guys have talked about this before, but I have to ask, What does lit think, not just about Pegg's statement, but about the idea of second childhood in general?
Pegg Article: http://www.avclub.com/article/simon-pegg-worried-our-obsession-nerd-culture-infa-219672
A. O. Scott Article of NYTimes on Modern Adulthood: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/magazine/the-death-of-adulthood-in-american-culture.html?_r=0
>>7461981
The man may star in funny poop joke movies but he's still british.
inevitable progress of an old trend. blame 19th century romantics.
this is not new or particularly interesting.
I'm finding it impossible to have a second childhood. I simply don't enjoy childish things.
I don't have the time to read all of Chomsky's books, so recommend one or two books of his of major importance.
in linguistics or politics?
>>7461544
Politics
>>7461544
Or one of each.
Is infinite jest worth reading in spanish?
Btw, spanish cover > american cover
>>7461300
>2015
>being Mexican
>>7461300
por supuesto
>>7461300
I like the idea for the cover but it comes out horribly. That looks more like a magazine cover than a book.
Rules:
No posting unless you've already critiqued a work (except for the first post, obviously).
READ WHAT YOU WROTE OUT LOUD BEFORE YOU POST IT
What's the best thing that's ever been posted in one of these threads?
>>7460608
it's copyrighted now, friend
Another chapter from "Practice what you Peach", about a peach farmer who hates peaches.
In their latest adventure, Frank (the old peach farmer) and Mira (his fat wife) welcome their new neighbors with a very special gift...................
I'd like some honest feedback on a poem I wrote please. Everyone I share it with says its amazingly done, I honestly think it's mediocre. Please, honest feedback.
I put alot of song titles in here from songs I listen to so points if you find them,
April's leaves
Her voice is quiet, like an unheard song.
And yet it makes me want to sing, sing, sing.
Just being around her makes time feel long.
But she won't ever see me, say a thing.
I gave her a song, Moonlight Serenade.
It matches her, with its quiet sound.
And I think I’ll miss her unselfish aid.
Her wisdom had volume. Her advice, loud.
I miss her words, they felt high and free.
She showed me the beauty of April's leaves.
Lovely, like tea for two, and two for tea.
That all changed, when she decided to leave.
Close as we were, she wants nothing of me
Nothing will be the same, it's hard to see
>>7460277
Everyone you've shared it with is wrong and poetically illiterate. Let's get to criticism:
You ended every line on a caesura. Pretty big problem as all your lines start to sound the same and we can safely predict the period at the end of them.
"Her advice, loud." is ungrammatical because you did not use the word "is" in the previous clause / sentence.
Need full stop after "I miss her words"; comma is ungrammatical.
Line beginning "Lovely" is ungrammatical.
No comma after "that all changed."
Full stop after "nothing will be the same."
So, all in all, do you even grammar? Punctuate your lines the same way you'd punctuate sentences. And if this poem is representative of how you punctuate sentences, then you're doing it wrong and need to go back to school. Actually, you're probably still in school based on the writing. It's quite juvenile. The language is unimpressive and the content is very high school. The rhyme is tacky and unsubtle, with fat, gauche monosyllable words for every rhyme. Also, when referring to juvenile poetry, i.e. the poetry of beginners, there is no "good" or "bad." Because it is not poetry. You have a long way to go.
Do you want to keep writing poetry? Then answer the following. Do you read any poetry? If you don't, then start reading. If you do, read more.
Songs: Sing Sing Sing, Moonlight Serenade, Tea for Two, Hard to See. I think incorporating these into the poem is pretty tacky.
>>7460680
Each lines supposed to be 10 syllables. I was lazy, I know, which is why I don't like it.
>>7460680
I think you're being a little harsh, anon.
Hes obviously a beginner, and there's obviously some sort of scheme going on with the 10 syllables a line.
His Grammar? Bad, sure, but I think it should be apparent enough that he probably is in highschool, in which case who cares, its a blue board.
If you want people to get into literature at a young age like what /lit/ should be rooting for, you'd encourage the guy.
Where do i start with Cyberpunk?
>>7458618
Gibson's Sprawl Trilogy
Stephenson's Snow Crash
>>7458618
my diary t b h
>>7458626
i loved neuromancer but snow crash reads like a weeaboo wet dream.
How many of you secretly hide your own beliefs in your work? Beliefs that you know the wider public wouldn't approve of and could cripple you professionally if it were to be known?
Some authors now long since dead are still falling to people twisting their words and making them out to be something they weren't. Tolkien being an obvious one. But did he do it intentionally? Was he hiding his opinions in plain sight to allow for a shield of debate?
I've written a few novels here and there (no, I will not be saying which, otherwise it would make it obvious), and each time I've managed to hide my own opinions in them. I've obscured them by having undesirable characters espouse them, or I've hidden them under what should be obvious allegory, just to give myself an escape route if anyone were to try to claim they were mine. I've even put conflicting ones in, though I've often favoured the my true belief.
Come on. Fess up.
I think women have lives on really fucking easy mode. Even in shit countries, it's better to be treated as cattle than cannon fodder. I think society is set up to fuck me (male) up.
I think Islam is screwed at the outset due to the qur'an supposedly being the word of god and everyone should stop trying to score PC points and admit tat it's incompatible with lots of what we call liberal / western values. Fashionable coffee house faux intellectuals like zizek (who I like), and /lit/ are not willing to admit this.
I now treat all art as disposable entertainment. Gravity's Rainbow one second, star wars the next. Woop dee doo, they're as meaningful as each other. Also the publishing system is just upper class clubhouse elitism, not that it's 100 % shit, but it does give me license to disregard literature as a whole. /lit/ won't admit this because they want to be part of the club, even though they were mostly too dumb for oxford. Even when tao lin's toilet paper gets published, /lit/ will refuse to admit that anything is wrong. IT's like steinbeck's quote about murrika being a nation of millionaires temporarily down on their luck.
I think Elliot rodger's manifesto was the best book of the 21st century. Yes, I think the youtube videos were a great ARTISTIC addition.
>>7457766
>blacks are inherently less sophisticated than whites or Asians (included them in my fantasy world solely to have slaves for Egypt-like empire)
>Jews are manipulative and self-victimisers (created a race of people that have historically been selfish and deprecating towards others whenever they are in power, but act pitiful and tolerant when they aren't)
>Islam is a barbaric and corrupt religion hellbent on using innocent people as a defence while it rips out the heart of the nation it is infecting (created a poisonous religion based on devil-worship masquerading as a benevolent path to human glory, spreading through lies and deceit)
>women will always be ruled by emotions and so unable to handle the truth if it upsets them (all respectable female characters think and act like men)
>political correctness is a hypocritical poison that will destroy western society (twisted the dominant empire at the time to espouse PC views and force them on everyone)
>violence is often the answer (all of the greatest heroes are violent sociopaths that kill enemies without a single ounce of guilt and it gets shit done)
>>7457793
>I now treat all art as disposable entertainment. Gravity's Rainbow one second, star wars the next. Woop dee doo, they're as meaningful as each other.
This seems like a contradiction on various levels. First, if art meaningful, how can it be disposable? Second, why do make the comparison between GR and SW? The first is all about making popular culture into "true art", the second (or at least the Ot) is a great example of a popular work with quite a lot of value; seems like there's not much to contrast.
If space and time are not properties of the mind independent world, then there can be no separation, plurality or differentiation within the Noumena. But if this is true then how does it make sense to talk about the Transcendental Self imposing the structure of space and time upon the world? Surely anytime you talk about the Self you are already implying a certain degree of separation between objects (so that the Self is different from everything not Self). How can the Self exist within the Noumena if its not located within space? Am I getting this all wrong or is this a legit weak point of Kants metaphysics?
bump plz
>>7457230
I cannot even make sense of your first sentence.
>properties of the mind independent world
I suppose is mind-independent?
> then there can be no separation, plurality or differentiation within the Noumena
We CAN'T TALK about differentiation within the Noumena.
>Transcendental Self imposing the structure of space and time upon the world?
Self-imposing. This is not true. It makes no sense to talk the 'self' as a willing ego.
>How can the Self exist within the Noumena if its not located within space?
Why being located within space is a requirement for the self? The possibility of differentiation does not need to be made within space unless the claim relies on a posteriori premises, reason why Kant proceeds with Trascendental Arguments.
>>7457230
transcendental as in the self transcends an experience by imposing time and space upon it to make sense out of raw sense data. not a good use of the term at all
self is noumena and noumena to kant is impossible to know. you cant know a thing in itself or whatever the fuck
What is /lit/ reading over winter break? Here's my list:
>Mao II
>The sound and the fury
>Pale fire
>A Naked Singularity
>A Little Life
Thoughts?
>>7451737
Tackling Infinite meme
Was gonna read Portrait of the Artist and then Ulysses but I've decided to read 2666 instead.
>>7451737
>The Cannibal
>Mao II as well
>A whole mess of Strindberg
>The Arabian Nights
>Either/Or
Alright, this isn't done very often around here, due to all the edginess
What is a novel that will make me HAPPY? One that is encouraging about life and will make me want to get out into the world and love and do shit?
one hundred years of solitude
House of Leaves
A Christmas Carol
What does /lit/ think of pic related?
Parodies of rappers reading classics get old fast
Helpful for morons, useless for the intelligent.
The videos are dumb and not funny, they try way too hard. However, without the visual/audio component, it's hilarious. I picked up a copy to read casually in the bookstore a while back and it made me laugh out loud a couple of times
>If a place is itself surrounded by fire (falls finally to ash, into a cinder tomb), it no longer is. Cinder remains, cinder there is, which we can translate: the cinder is not, is not what is. It remains FROM what is not, in order to recall at the delicate, charred bottom of itself only nonbeing or nonpresence. Being without presence has not been and will no longer be there where there is cinder and where this other memory would speak. There, where cinder means the difference between what remains and what is, will she ever reach it, there?
Jesus fucking Christ what a fucking hack.
>>7464091
You're just not smart enough to understand him.
>>7464098
this meme again
Try applying his ideas to works of literature and you'll be surprised at what you come to see. Derrida is not meant to be taken at face value, it is only through the application of his ideas to the interpretation of literature that he becomes valuable. At least that's the way I see it, I've gained much insight into the things I read with the influence of this guy.
Which book will stop me from feeling dead inside?
None of them.
>>7463317
Only you can find meaning for yourself. ^_^
>>7463317
New Testament