What are some essential depression-core books?
Popular suggestions:
1. Book of Disquiet
2. Conspiracy Against the Human Race
3. Stoner
>>7740993
Louis-Ferdinand CĂ©line
>>7740993
Why do you want to feel depressed? Isn't this life enough?
Hello lit
give me daring or subversive books
>>7740973
political and social in a specific context or even better that are still subversive today
Catechism of a Revolutionary
Kozinski - The Painted Bird
2016: We are less free and thought control is intrinsic. A time of self censored artists.
The system has done our minds over. Everyone is competing to write the big money book that doesn't offend anyone. No one cares how corporately crushed we are.
I want to write a short novel that is shocking in today's society
I've been looking but it seems hard both to shake literary and social rules as they are difficult to distinguish
Tell me if you have any ideas
>>7740991
Over Orthodox displays.
Committed ignorance.
>>7741012
actually a very good idea
im writing it in my notebook
I read most of my books in English but I find some poetry, and only poetry, to be just a little bit too much for me to handle yet. Please recommend me good accessible poets that could help me improve my vocabulary while still enjoying and learning about poetry.
>>7740946
start with the greeks
Does anyone have a PDF of this? oh please oh please oh please
It's too costly, and I am too broke.
I read the Parliament of Fowls just this morning. Chaucer is a funny bloke.
Anyone?
>>7740829
Is it for a class??
Sure it's a great volume, but why the jesus do prof's keep assigning this out-of-print tome? It must be some sort of deep-world "academics only" troll or clever shill...
Equality of outcome or equality of opportunity, /lit/? Or do you disagree with any sort of notion of equality?
>>7740764
hey. how's it going? whatcha worried about? please don't worry buddy. everything's gonna be all right.
>>7740768
what
>>7740771
it's gonna be all right.
>pynchon's full name is Thomas Ruggles Pynchon Jr.
>Ruggles
Why is this not a meme yet? Why did we take to calling him pinecone?
>>7740718
Good find. Let's make it a meme. Boys?
>>7740718
ruggles sounds like a cute dog name
>Ruggles
>Fug
:DDDDD
Sup faggots, can you guys give me some advice for the book I'm writing in terms of theme and plotting.
Basically it's about an early 20 something nerdy guy who's a college drop out, lives with his parents and works a dead end convenience store job. He's pretty unlucky with women as well. However that all changes when he runs into a mysterious man who shows him how truly hollow and empty modern consumerist society is. Together these two transgressive misfits travel America gathering like minded people into their movement that eschews the modern day feminist-capitalism liberal system in favor of a masculine brotherhood that fights the system that oppresses them. In terms of influence my main ones are Fight Club (Palahniuk) and Atlas Shrugged (Rand)
The themes I want to put across are the hollowness of most peoples lives in the capitalist society, the fact that most Americans are blind sheep that follow the governments every word, and the fact that cultural marxism is pussyfying our society.
How can I most effectively marry these themes with the broader narrative without bogging down the story itself? Also what do you think of my concepts?
9/10
Your use of the phrase "most effectively marry these themes with the broader narrative" gave you away, though. Otherwise, stellar work. Keep it up.
your gonna be famous
What's the difference? One's $12.50 and the other is $25.72
>>7740683
translation? paper quality?
>>7740687
Both are by P&V, and the paper quality on all the Vintage books I've got is pretty good I'd say (for paperbacks).
Would paper quality really have that much of a difference in price?
>>7740693
I have the Vintage edition. It's absolutely fine, but I'm still put off by that awful fucking cover.
So like how did lancelot perform that miracle on that knight. Was it gad?
on elaine, yes
>>7740652
No it was his knightly virtue shaping reality, like how Arthur is able to defeat the entire Roman Empire and Roland solo ten thousand moors.
When you write something do you use your real name or a pen name? I like to go by the name of Benito Camelo.
>>7740612
>Benito Camelo.
Well I hope you come highly recommended or no one is going to read you.
>>7740612
Phil White
John I. Logic for my satires
the I stands for Intelligence
Why are Light Novels so popular when they are so incredibly poorly written?
What I've noticed through basically every LN i've ever read from Spice and Wolf too Haruhi is how much fucking narration is on literally every single action or event, instead of writing a scene and letting it play out naturally letting the reader interpret it in whatever way they wish, LN's handhold the reader too an overbearing extent with narration on what is constantly going down. You will never learn what a character is like from their actions, the novel will always tell you how the character is and why they do what they do.
Which leads onto the biggest point, the Protags just won't shut the fuck up because basically 80% of the book will be just their own monologues on what is happening. This often means the protaganist basically has no real character, if you cut the monologues, there is nothing actually in the book showing you what the protagonist is like beyond their blank slate, they just stare at things, monologue about it internally then just do basic interactions.
What I've sort of realized about LN's is that they are mostly on the level of poorly written fanfiction. You will find most of these issues in bad fanfiction as well and it seems to stem from authors who are not confident in their own writing ability. Instead of allowing the reader to read and interpret scenes, dialogue and characters, everything is described to you in detail and from the perspective of the Protag (and author) because they don't trust their writing enough to carry itself.
This also sadly seems to carry heavily through into anime a lot, notice in western shows how they generally have the confidence to let you interpret scenes, while in anime often at least half the dialogue is internal monologues?
So it comes back too, why are these things so popular when they are not even good by western YA level genre fiction?
>>7740586
Can you read Japanese?
If not, what are you yapping about? You read two translated light novels and act like you know everything?
>>7740586
Because they are easy to read, and have anime girls in the cover.
Why else?
Kino's Travels is up there with the best of Borges.
What's your guilty literary pleasure, /lit/?
Pic semi related
Genre fiction apparently.
God I love Hitler so much
Lovecraft in general. I have a thing for the incomprehensible and the pre-Cambrian horrors that Lovecraft dreams up. They're also cozy reads
What are some novels that accurately portray pirates? I'm talking about full on scurvy, rape, and man on man butt sex.
Ok, so I got Catcher from a friend, this edition, and, first, I gotta say, the first pages, "ow the edge" and second, is this edition pic related worth having or is it heavily edited? Also, second pic I post is older, with a much more interesting cover, how much is it worth on good condition?
This one is the one I'm asking if it's worth anything.
>>7740471
>>7740475
It's his worst book, but it's also better than anything Vonnegut ever wrote.