Do you like contemporary poetry? Most of it sounds awfully inscrutable to me.
>>7743219
I don't like most poetry after Eliot.
Of course there is some decent stuff but it's few and far between.
Poetry died after the Surrealists and Futurists dismantled it. Nothing after 1930 is worthwhile.
Considering Wallace Stevens was publishing up until 1950, I'm going to disagree with the posts above.
Hey /lit/, I'm at Part Four of pic related, and I'm about to continue reading whilst drunk, am I going to understand it more?
>>7743215
JUST FOLLOW YOUR HEART!
Fuck you, bro.
Well /lit/
Why should one love their country? I'm not asking this because I'm indifferent to it or don't care, I do love my homeland.
But why, why causes people to feel a certain attachment to the land they were born? A certain feeling and duty to serve and protect their country?
Although I haven't started with the Greeks yet, from my understanding they were hyper patriots of their City States and do whatever they could to help their Country, through politics, or serving in war, or living in a clay bowl.
Help me out /lit/
You love your motherland for the same reason you love your kin and your community. We don't give a rat's ass about our kin or community these days, so of course caring about one's motherland is going to be more peculiar. And even bigger issue is that rampant globalism destroys cultural distinction, whereas in the past cultural distinction between communities was significant (there were tons variation in regional dialect and accent), and distinction between peoples was enormous in a way we can't really comprehend today, going to another country was almost like going to another planet. So you loved your country because it was instinctual and made sense, not because it was some artificial value. Your country was synonymous with all your values and everything you loved. If you spent years living among Bedouins today, you'd probably get extremely homesick and miss your own people, that might give you an idea.
>>7743133
was tolstoy really a mason?
>>7743790
When Orthodox Christians call someone a "Mason", it doesn't have to be literal. It's like if say Hitler was Satanic.
>be female
>write shit plays that are basically 2edgy4u and are designed solely to shock
>get rightly told that you're a shit dramatist who is so shit that she doesn't even know about Aristotle's injunction that to truly shock an audience, you shouldn't show them the act itself
>commit suicide because you're a failure
>suddenly, through the magic of suicide, all your shit becomes golden
>people start to show your plays again even though they cause people to faint in disgust
WYMEN
I fookin hate 'em m8. As soon as they kill themselves, everyone is supposed to be nice to their work, even though in life they would never afford anyone any sort of basic courtesy whatsoever.
Just look at this shit -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXvsGYovEFA
said the impotent, ressentiment-filled man on an anonymous Cambodian pickle-curing consortium
>>7743111
Yeah, well you're here too you shriveled up cunt, at least I came up with this original thread, which suggests I have more virility than you, who can only bitch at others, likely brought about by your seething resentment that you don't have a penis.
>>7743100
>To everyone who posted on this thread (including me)
The radiant yolk yellow god is alit as rays kiss the laughing statue. It's serenity so distant, among choked engines and grey fumes it sits abruptly, silently,wisely. White wisps among baby blue catch wings in between them, encouraging more foreign eyes and contented sighs. Clocks differentiate, symphonies more appreciated, happiness not hatred, smiles back and forth. Swarming heat hugging pale bodies embracing difference much more magnificence. The occasional thorough breeze only eases to seize the clicks of the battery ridden electronics which long to achieve perfection which will never be long. Chalky white architecture with refreshing splashes of ruby red grass green pineapple yellows, turquoise form the beauty longing to stay amongst flocks of respectful faces and hidden s(k)in. Makeshift stools scatter streets, blocking flooded tuc tucs among battered taxis and impatient BMWs etc. Murky grey concrete bridges put to shame with towering flowers tugging irises to peer at roses pink hibiscuses. Flickering lashes caught in the harsh sunlight to proportion reality. Only to find Raybans flicked carelessly over lids. Protection decreasing defection to then look down around litter and poor fruit pickers wordlessly waiting impatiently stating it's not all it seems. C.A
ill bang your cock heh
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post the comfiest book you've ever read
My comfiest.
Hey /lit/, I have a vocabulary question.
Is there a word in english to denote "In front of"?
I mean it in the same vein as adjacent means "next to"
"before"
>in b4 it's a time proposition only
>>7743000
It might work, but it can get mixed up if you don't structure it well enough in the sentence.
>>7743000
Doesn't work for what I have in mind.
>"Adjacent units must evacuate immediately. "
>"[Word Im looking for] units must evacuate immediately."
I need something I can use like that
Straight question:
Stoner or Catch-22?
I have money to buy one of them and I'd like to hear your opinion on both. Just your opinion.
>>7742984
Pirate both.
I have no problems with them but they are HS tier and can be read quickly. My copy of Catch-22 has sat on a shelf unread for more than 10 years. Ive been only buying relatively rare NYRB books that I cant find anywhere.
>>7742996
A physical copy of Stoner then? I like the cover n' shit.
>>7742984
Catch-22 for an enjoyable and often funny read
Stoner for a soul rending shard of the literary divine (I'm biased though, imo it's the perfect novel)
The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles had easily one of the worst endings to a book I've ever read. The story was great up until Bowles let Kit go out and survive on her own. That whole side story was long, drawn out, and painful. I appreciate Bowles' persona but this hooey kind of ruined him for me.
>Thoughts?
>No existential fags allowed
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Anyone else read/reading Silence by Shusaku Endo? Pretty cosy even though I'm not religious
I'm reading it too. Great book so far. Really touching.
is this graph accurate?
>>7742934
No dude that's way off. Someone clearly exploited the security weaknesses of that Windows XP and/or that Java install and hacked some seriously misleading info into there.
>>7742934
It is. When it comes to influence, no one has escaped Kant in the last two centuries. Connections and names are lacking, but what the image shows is accurate.
>>7742966
underrated post
> In his compendious notes, he (Foucault) informs us that his discussion is based on such works as “The Catacombs: A Temple of the Butthole,” Urban Aboriginals: A Celebration of Leathersexuality, and The New Leatherman’s Workbook: A Photo Illustrated Guide to SM Sex Devices. “For the techniques of hetronormative discourse in these years,” he explains, “I have relied on Larry Townshend, The Leatherman’s Handbook 11.”
Why do people take this guy seriously again?
I never understood leather fetishism and it only seems to attract ugly old white guys.
>>7742885
I dunno it seems weird how it's that big of a thing
being turned on by a type of fabric doesn't really seem like a normal human fetish. but then i guess guys like things like thighhighs and underwear so
>>7742831
people like you turn this board to shit
How do individualists reconcile the thraldom of the physical world and especially man's biological and physical needs. Surely the sole use of Individualism is to prove that freedom is an illusion and that only a fool would pursue such a fantasm.
>>7742830
wot
>>7742865
Heh. I guess this post might have been a bit too highbrow for 4chan.
>>7742830
>>7742876
>fantasm
>phantasm
>highbrow
Nope son. You're not put in thrall by biological necessities, that concept is a spook. Eating and Sleeping are spooks that you use to accomplish the will of the creative nothing to stay alive. The creative nothing could easily desire to not live and then use the spooks of food and sleep, or the lack thereof to accomplish its interest to die.
How do I into Luddy Dubs?
I recall some infograph made by /lit/ but I can't find it anymore.
>>7742810
Avoid secondary literature. Start with the Tractatus, then read the Brown and Blue Books, then read Philosophical Investigations.
>>7742810
>>7743478
Why do you people jerk it over the Tractatus so much when Wittgenstein himself largely discredit the work later on in his life?
How does Kant arrive at the categorical imperative? I've read the groundwork but i still don't get exactly which steps he takes to get to it
Read it again, dumbass. It's not that fucking hard. Now, it's easy to not AGREE with him, but it isn't hard to understand him.
He analyzes what we really mean by "good will."
He talks about what really goes into determining an action.
He points out (and this may be a step you're not willing to grant him, but the reasoning is transparent) that we can't strictly call a good will good if it's at all determined by any Empirical content.
He ends up concluding that the only law a truly good will would follow is the "pure form of a law" itself-- no empirical content.
Go reread it and fill in the gaps.
>>7742763
Which part? We learned that stuff in school. I'm sure only superficially but it wasn't that hard to get.
He was spooked into it.