Post your favorite short story collection, everything goes.
It's a little more than a short story collection, but not quite a novel yet
Does anyone know if this gets better? I really liked The Sheltering Sky but the first few stories in this are... wew.
Can somebody recommend a good essay about valuing things in film/literature other than didacticism? I'd especially like something that talks about being immersed in an /aesthetic feeling/ or some shit like that.
I've already read Nabokov's nerd rant that's included in my edition of Lolita.
thanks
>>7739839
hmm
pic related maybe
Do public schools teach anything useful about literature and rhetoric?
>>7739831
No. In Ameriga, rhetoric is under strict educational and media blackout.
>>7739831
Only that most people are willingly stupid
Take an AP lit class if you want 20% rhetoric and 80% cramming for a load of essays that mean nothing
This is my introduction paragraph. If it sounds like shit its because im an 18 year old junior that's never written anything in my life, and I am also too retarded to be good with words.
If I was asked to make a list of things that make me happy, it would be near endless. To name a few enjoyable things I experience daily would include, taking a warm shower in the morning, putting on some refreshing clean clothes, feeling the sun and the wind on the way to the bus,looking forward to lunch, hearing the last bell ring, and finally jumping into bed as soon as I get home. But sometimes I'll take these things for granted, I become desensitized to the gigantic list of miniscule things that usually make me happy. After that, I lose the effort to continue my usual daily routine, life will start to seem repetitive and mundane. Feeling like life is monotonous is dreadful. When I each day is the same I have alot of time to overthink things, I’ll start to feel insecure, depressed, hopeless, anxious and paranoid.In order to keep myself happy I need to have some variation in each day. To combat this, I try to break my comfort zone and find something else to distract me. Something as small as shovelling the driveway can help clear my mind just a little. So the broader answer to what makes me happy, would have to be diversions and change.
If I was asked to make a list of things that make me happy it would be near endless. Naming a few enjoyable things I experience daily would include: taking a warm shower in the morning, putting on some refreshing clean clothes, feeling the sun and the wind on the way to the bus, looking forward to lunch, hearing the last bell ring, and finally jumping into bed as soon as I get home. Yet Sometimes I'll take these things for granted, I become desensitized to the gigantic list of minuscule things that usually make me happy. I lose would the effort to continue my usual daily routine and life will start to seem repetitive and mundane. Feeling life is monotonous is dreadful. When each day is the same I have a lot of time to overthink things, I’ll start to feel insecure, depressed, hopeless, anxious and paranoid. In order to keep myself happy I need to have some variation everyday day; to combat this I try to break my comfort zone and find something else to distract me, something as small as shoveling the driveway can help clear my mind. So the broader answer to what makes me happy would have to be diversions and change.
I have made it a bit more bearable without changing too much
>>7739821
thanks man, you're the best. Thats way more help than I expected.
>>7739821
Any thoughts on the content of it?
What is the greatest short story collection ever?
Doubliners.
[Spoiler]check em [/spoiler]
>>7739755
check'd
>>7739755
noice
What books will help me understand the development of the English language?
1. Canterbury Tales
2. King James Bible
3. Book of Common Prayer
4. The Faerie Queene
5. Shakespeare
...? What else? Some non-fiction perhaps?
sir gawain and the green knight
Beowulf
The Seafarer and Caedmon's hymn
>>7739739
What you have is good so far, though it's missing some contemporary to show you where the language is now. Throw some john green in there (if recommend his seminal class The Fault in Our Stars) and you're all set , bud.
would /lit/ be interested in working on a collection of short stories? legitimate short stories, not lol so randum shit packed with memes.
please respond
I might be. Would there be a central theme to the collection?
>>7739727
So you could compile them and do a pathetic attempt to make money of other peoples work because you're too lazy to write?
I think I'm going to pass thank you very much.
When will rap lyrics be recognized as modern poetry?
Not talking about "fuck bitches get money" (even though I do think that has a deeper philosophical meaning), but rap lyrics in general about life, issues, politics, love, etc.
Be open-minded.
It's called slam poetry, and it'll never be legitimate.
If it's "legitimate," then it has to be open to criticism. And slam poetry is just awful. It could never stand it.
Being open-minded doesn't mean finding contrived meaning in things that have no other meaning than what they say.
When greentexting is recognized as modern prose
All verse that is English and sustained--that is to say longer than a few flourishes--and rhyming past Middle English (which rhymes much more organically and doesn't sound like limericks), is awful, just awful. If you prefer translations of the Iliad like Pope over someone like Rodney Merrill or Lattimore, it's because you have a short attention span and need rhymes to continually amuse you.
And yes, they're all shit compared to the original Greek. But Pope is shit compared to the other two.
I didn't read your post because you sound like a faggot wannabe poet.
I think you're trying too hard.
>>7739740
I'm not a poet neither have I ever written poetry
>>7739790
But you're a tripfaggot
hey /lit/ i am a /b/tard and /pol/ack, I will not lie i have a presentation on the early 20th century. I was wondering if there is a book or a writer during this period that would be interesting and academically tested. Basically a book or author that tryhards bring up during literature discussions. I am a stem major so i am not knowledgeable on this topic and think that /lit/ might have some great ideas.
>ib4 how do 14 year olds keep on finding 4chan
please take rare pepe as payment
These retards are just going to tell you to start with the Greeks or suggest Joyce. Ignore them and look up best novels of the 20th century and find something that sounds interesting.
>>7739689
I just want something that is little more out there if that makes any sense
>>7739694
You're not going to find it here.
Anyone gain any insights from reading Lacan?
Why does Zizek like him so much?
Where does one start with Lacan?
>>7739658
>Where does one start with Lacan?
With Freud, de Sausseur, and Levi-Strauss
>>7739658
Someone on /lit/ once recommended that I start here. It was decent so I'm passing it on.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96126745/Bruce-Fink-a-Clinical-Introduction-to-Lacanian-P-BookFi-org
>>7739667
I was just about to say this.
Has /lit/ read any holy book?
Really want to start with the Torah and move onto Bible, Quran and then Bhagavad Gita
Any tips or suggestions? Dont know which version of Bible to read or Tipitaka
I know /lit/ would disagree but I don't consider holy books to be a good read, they are maybe useful to understand other works but that's pretty much it
>>7739622
The Bhagavad Gita is an easy, satisfying read. I prefer it to the others you've mentioned. Start there.
Also, if have lots of time and you're into that kind of thing, then you should check out the Bhagavata Purana.
Atlas Shrugged
>Everybody don't have to have a reason to be someplace.
>That's so, said the judge. They do not have to have a reason. But order is not set aside because of their indifference. Let me put it this way, if it is so that they themselves have no reason and yet are indeed here must they not be here by reason of some other? And if this is so can you guess who that other might be?
>No. Can you?
>I know him well.
>This is an orchestration for an event. For a dance in fact. The participants will be apprised of their roles at the proper time. For now it is enough that they have arrived. As the dance is the thing with which we are concerned and contains complete within itself its own arrangement and history and finale there is no necessity that the dancers contain these things within themselves as well. In any event the history of all is not the history of each nor indeed the sum of those histories and none here can finally comprehend the reason for his presence for he has no way of knowing even in what the event consists. In fact, were he to know he might well absent himself and you can see that that cannot be any part of the plan if plan there be. The evening's progress will not appear strange or unusual even to those who question the rightness of the events so ordered.
What did he mean by this?
When will posting these shitty 'what did he mean by this'-threads be a bankable offense?
>>7739632
I have lurked /lit/ and determined that, not unlike the rest of the boards, memes are the most effective mode of communication, especially in the OP.
What are your thoughts on the dance, anon?
>>7739641
Kill yourself
So I was talking to the guy who was my English teacher when I was in high school and he said he loves Ayn Rand's books. How does this make you feel?
To be fair he also said she wasn't very good at writing a narrative, but that if you want a good story you can just read something on the NY times best sellers list.
Sounds like an idiot. And then there's you.
>>7739580
>gov get out reeee ):<
>if you want a good story you can just read something on the NY times best sellers list
Cucking memes aside, Bertrand Russel made a pretty good case in Marriage and Morals as to why monogamy is an evil and destructive invention: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Marriage_and_Morals
I'll remind you that NO ONE has actually give a decent rebuttal to Marriage and Morals. Betrand Russell himself was raised in a progressive household: his father allowed his wife, Russell's mother, to sleep with Rusell's tutors. Yet Betrand Russell turned out a genius, and grew up to the win the Nobel Prize in literature.
Who are some other thinks who held this opinion? I don't mean edgelords like Sade. I know in The Origin of the Family, Engels makes a case for monogamous marriage being necessary for development, but also the beginning of oppression and something which must ultimately whither away.
>Thus when monogamous marriage first makes its appearance in history, it is not as the reconciliation of man and woman, still less as the highest form of such a reconciliation. Quite the contrary. Monogamous marriage comes on the scene as the subjugation of the one sex by the other; it announces a struggle between the sexes unknown throughout the whole previous prehistoric period. In an old unpublished manuscript, written by Marx and myself in 1846, I find the words: “The first division of labor is that between man and woman for the propagation of children.” And today I can add: The first class opposition that appears in history coincides with the development of the antagonism between man and woman in monogamous marriage, and the first class oppression coincides with that of the female sex by the male.
>>7739540
If you want to swing, find a partner who also wants to swing.
If you want monogamy, find a partner who wants monogamy.
What benefit is there to telling either group of people they are wrong for wanting what they want given that everything is consensual and nobody is harmed?
>>7739540
Why are people on 4chan (mainly /r9k/ and /pol/) so obsessed with whom other people fuck?
>>7739540
His father was a cuck. He was a cuck. Anyone like him will be a cuck. Don't be like him.
The reason why nobody gives a rebuttal is because the rebuttal is self-evident.