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Has anyone read it? Even one person? Not even one? No one? Well, then has anyone read any Schmidt at all? Is he worth getting into or just german madness/autism?
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>>9861743
I have read some Schmidt in translation. Didn't see the big deal because I'm uncooperative when I detect autism.
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>>9861743
Sebastian did in the original german
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>>9861743
No. Believe me. It's a meme. It's about nothing but madness. You're will waste your time less reading public restroom insriptions.

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Hello, /lit/. I'm interested in reading Don Quixote so which translation would be the best for a first time read? My local book store has one from Smollett, a penguin classics, and Grossman. Thanks.
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>>9861732
>translation

Might as well just read the wiki summary
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>>9861732
It depends on whether you favor accuracy or beauty
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The Penguin Classics is John Rutherford, which my Quixote professor taught and highly recommended as a great translation. So that.

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Was he right?
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yes
/thread
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Yes but there is nothing we can do about it.
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Really too bad he had to kill people, he could have his own TV show now otherwise. His manifesto is so strangely accurate.

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Is a college/university experience a mandatory requirement to publish a successful book /lit/? I understand it definitely helps, but is it absolutely necessary? I assume you could just hire a ghostwriter to help edit any errors and whatnot
>pic unrelated
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If you're a genius it's not mandatory. But you post on 4chan so I can guarantee that you're not one
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>>9861597
No. Most classic authors had no university experience.
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>wanting to be a wagecuck instead of spending a few years as a comfy student working on your craft

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I don't get it.
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Moran is Molloy, and the things that Molloy rants about in the first section can be attributed to the people and events that take place in Moran's life. The second section can be read to technically predate the first in that case. I cant really remember everything well but examples off the top of my head:

Molloy=Moran
- Both share the same leg problem.
- Both mention they once had a son before his abandonment.
- Molloy's 'mother' could actually be Moran's housekeeper but I don't remember her name.
- Moran's desire for his son to own a bike can be attributed to Molloy's obsession with his own.

There's so many more once you re-read the first part but I generally can't remember many.
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>>9861568
The entire point is put stones in your mouth and stuff.
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>>9861749
i felt that there was a possibility that the two stories are in parallel, and that though moran seems to become molloy in his pusuit of molloy, it does not necessitate the idea that the two are one in the same, perhaps there is a state of being molloy that people come to in pursuit.

there's also the idea that it's a descent into madness, the big thirsty guy that comes to malone, but doesn't get a beer, perhaps an entity that never existed. hell, there might be some evil force that comes to men to cause them to become molloy or molloy-like.
it's hard to make any conclusive statements about the book and it's beautiful for that.

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With so many movie soundtracks being unconscious hackjobs and rearrangements of modernist "sound poem" music, easily appropriated and reverse-engineered for merely dramatic effect and emotional manipulation, can Wagner be considered the beginning of the death and massification of Western music?

Was Nietzsche completely right about Wagner, that he turned the most sublime art, music, into a sporting event for plebs?

Adorno wanted us to ascend to new heights of appreciation and criticism by shedding the old romantic formalism. But didn't the slicing up of symphonic music into emotion-provoking soundbites, and music's incorporation as a background effect in dramatic theater and eventually cinema, only fuel the culture industry? Jazz was predictably degenerate, as Adorno saw, and it's the same underlying phenomenon.

I'm confused by Adorno's prescriptions, and I don't know who else to read to make sense of all this.
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>>9861478
Wagner is opera music has a distinct function in opera "emotion-provoking" etc. And Nietzsche was mostly triggerd by Parzival since "muh christianity"
If anything Wagner is the highest point of Opera, but after reaching the top you can only go down

Adorno IIRC praised Schoenbergs atonal and later 12-tone music, which was imo more 'destructive' to symphonic music than jazz could ever be, so he can suck a dick
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>>9861521
>Adorno IIRC praised Schoenbergs atonal and later 12-tone music,

Yeah, but because he (mistakenly) thought it would lead to new and vital musical forms.
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>>9861478
Nietzsche was upset at the subject of Parsifal, not the music itself. He called it sublime, if I remember correctly.

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Iam looking for something from Western front, since i have read tons of (Czechoslovak) "legionnaire literature" so i would like to see different battlefield. French or German would be best, but British point of view is ok as well.
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>>9861390
Storm of Steel
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Good Soldier Sveik
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>>9861390
Im Westen Nichts Neues
Goodbye to All That
Seconding first poster about Storm of Steel

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Why do most writers fall off once they reach their older age? Their skills should be better but most of the best reach their heights in their 30s to 40s.
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>>9861078
Because even aside from your brain starting to physically rot with age. Most people get so terrified of death and all the opportunities behind them they intellectually castrate themselves to survive, falling back on a pathetic contentment and maudlin sentimentality
This state is usually described as the "wisdom" of the elderly
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Is that true? I find that the greatest works were written by writers in their later years: for example, Milton, Goethe and Dante. Literature isn't like math in that you need a lot of energy, and a sort of youthful quickness of mind to do great things. It has more to do with an inner honesty and slowly generating poetic sense that only ripens with age. Almost all the work by youthful authors is immature in once way or another, artistically or emotionally. I would say 50-60s is the sweetspot for a masterpiece, 30-40s for a classic, 20-30 for a solid book.
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>>9861078
That's actually the opposite. Every major writer produced his greatest work at an older age: Cervantes, Goethe, Dante, Dostoiesky ...

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How does one meditate?Is there a proper,correct way to do it,or is it just sitting and breathing?Are there more effective methods of doing it?Ive seen quite a few people on here claiming they meditate,as a way to improve focus while reading.As someone that doesnt have acces to drugs like adderal and ritalin,how can i improve my reading with meditation if at all?
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it develops your pre frontal cortex aka higher decision making. been doing mindfulness for about 6 years. Eckhart tolle is cool for beginners. yes its literally sitting and breathing technically.
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>>9861025
Look into mindfulness
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>How does one meditate?
You just sit there
>Is there a proper,correct way to do it,or is it just sitting and breathing?
Yes to both

Suzuki's stupid frog analogies stuck with me the best, so maybe check him out.

Just finished this book, and I'm craving more sci-fi horror books, but i can't find any, nevermind any good ones. Anyone have any reccomendations?
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>>9860998
Ender's game.
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>>9862489
Allready read that one, great book, but not really horror is it?
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>>9860998
Hull Zero Three

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Just finished reading this. Is there any other worthwhile Sumerian literature? Or should I just jump straight into the Greeks?
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That Gilgamesh is Akkadian you dumb pleb
No, you have to read "Collected Mesopotamian Texts and Fragments" in three volumes (bilingual Loeb edition). Then, read "The Tale of Sinuhe and Other Ancient Egyptian Poems 1940-1640 BC" and "The Book of the Dead" from ancient Egypt. Introduce yourself to the Indians with integral Mahabharata (tr. Bibek Debroy, 10 volumes), Ramajana, Panchatantra and The Vedas. Only then you may learn ancient Greek and study the Greek poetry, history and philosophy.
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>>9861367
There are both Sumerian and Akkadian tablets so it could be classified as either.
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Someone made this chart a few days ago.

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What do you seek in a philosophical novel? Do you want for it to have new themes, or shed old themes in a new light? How much focus narrative and characters do you want? And can a book that, despite not having philosophy as its focal point, still count as a philosophy book?
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>>9860943
My goal is to finish the book and not feel like doing so was a waste of time.
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>>9860952
Alright then, I'm assuming this is referring to philosophical novels and that the question is on track. So what exactly would a philosophical novel have to do to have "wasted your time"?
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>>9860966
If it's boring, unoriginal, just plain useless or any combination of the above.

For instance Mundus Millennials is all of the three and I would not recommend reading it.

>tfw too little too late
Is there any point in having interests in the 21st century? Everything's been done before, everything's already been cool a decade or two before now
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>>9860936
>Everything's been done before, everything's already been cool a decade or two before now

Nah, you're just lacking creativity. It must suck for you.
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>>9860936
>Is there any point in having interests in the 21st century? Everything's been done before, everything's already been cool a decade or two before now
What? Even today we are not even at the beginning of starting and even more being done
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>>9861032
How? Everything in film, literature, classical music, ect is harping on what has been done 30 or so years before, and it's impossible for a Schoenberg or Braque like figure to bring these mediums back to life.

Artists today ought to learn webdev and vr

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Is this still worth reading, or is there another book/series that does it better?
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Bumping because I'm interested but clueless
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I too shall bump
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final bump

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I'm writing a story. It's not going to be anything fancy, just a fun little project I feel like doing. It's gonna be a story of dumb fuckhead friends going monster hunting.

I got a list of things I might or might not implement, but I'm curious /lit/, what are your favorite monsters, legends, urban legends, or folklore?
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Bump. Com'on /lit/, I'm genuinely curious.
Especially any kinds of lesser known local legends.
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>>9860472
in my hometown of Sun Prairie, Wisconsin, they do the whole Groundhog Day thing, where they take a groundhog out of his box and try to assess whether he can see his shadow. This is supposed to predict whether there is an early or late spring. A couple years ago, the groundhog bit the mayor's ear while he was supposed to be whispering his prediction. Funny shit. It's now my favorite folk tale legend.

I also like Bigfoot conspiracies.
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>>9861111
Wait, so he just got bit? It wasn't a rumor that he was cursed or anything? That's... not quite what I had in mind, but I'm not judging.

I like the "bigfoot subspecies" more than bigfoot direct, especially the sheepsquatch. But I've always had a soft spot for the el chupacabra. You never forget your first cryptid.

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