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Out of all the meme novels which one is the friendliest to people who have never read anything supper long?
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>>8225036
Infinite Jest because it's the easiest one.
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Personally I found 2666 the most purely readable
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>>8225036
Infinite Jest and 2666. The Tunnel is the least friendly of all of them.

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I had a dream that I met Charles Bukowski outside of a shady nightclub in a dirty city. He made a sexual joke about a couple girls walking by and told me to smoke more.

I've never read one of his books.
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>>8224953
rad
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>>8224953
It's a sign, you should read Post Office.
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>>8224953
I saw Bukowski incarnate at my place of work one day. Looked exactly the age in your pic: similar stubble, slicked back hair, same smart casual form of dress just less pockmarked. He kept looking at me like only we knew what was going on. He looked bored.

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Are there any good books with the theme of this kino?
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>>8224815

i've never read one, but maybe there's a warhammer 40k novel about chaos marines?

event horizon is the prequel to warhammer 40k universe
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>>8224828
Kek
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>>8224828
>event horizon is the prequel to warhammer 40k universe

I don't see the connection at all...

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Can we have a "best of" thread for Dalkney Press? What are some of your favorites.
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At Swim-Two-Birds

I've honestly never found a book as continuously engaging as this one.
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>>8224851
Curious, I found The Third Policeman dramatically more engaging. I'll have to return to ASTB eventually.
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>>8224856
I've not read that one but it is on my list after Graveyard Clay.

>material substance ad the physical properties that govern them have existed for all of eternity
>they have no cause
>A first mover isn't necessary

*tip*
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>God and hence the Universe is eternal
>Something without a beginning can be a "first mover"
>Something without a beginning needs a "first mover"

ok
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>>8224756
>everything has just been hanging around jacking itself off for eternity
>literally reducing the universe to a massive masturbatory engine

ok
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>>8224754
What caused the first mover?

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I've asked before what is the cutting-edge of Literary Theory right now, and generally the attitude seems to be that Literary Theory as a movement isn't current any more and reached a degree of end.

In which case, what did Literary Theory conclude? Literary Theory's aim was to understand the nature of literature, no? If it's at an end then it must have reached something of an answer right?

I'm working my way through it and so far I'm in the middle of a big sprawling mass that I'm having trouble condensing. I want to in some ways master literary theory so that I can use it as a tool when writing, so I'm properly informed about the nature of what I'm writing.

Does anybody else here feel they're more or less in that position? Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding the whole nature of the study?
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>>8224725

I've just finished an intro to lit course and I can tell you it's all about how white men are evil. Literally every book is about how white men are racist and sexist.
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>>8224728

Sounds about right.
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Literary theory totally collapsed in on itself with post-modernism around the 60s/70s (espousing meaning is impossible to nail down). From the ashes arose the notion that all the different particular theories (historical, feminist, psychoanalytic, etc.) had value as points of view, but that there is no singular perspective. At least that's what I took away from a very, very, very brief look into it.

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How can there be no self? I get that everyone's opinion of themselves wrong at least a little but isn't there undeniably consciousnesses experiencing things in your head? is it just semantics? youre conscious but youre memories probably arent very reliable and all life is interdependent on each other? how would that nullify youre experience of being a "self"? is it just dogma to help people cope with being alive? am i missing the point? when people say things like 'if your look for a self it will vanish' or 'who is doing the thinking' i just think 'me, my brain which is alive and forms memories feel feelings and make judgements'. i get that i'm part of the universe but it seems insane to think the dead deer on the side of the road is somehow part of me or that good and bad don't exist, only opposites. imagine there was some piercing screech everywhere causing constant migraines to all living things, how would this not be terrible? how would judging it be an illusion?

book recs on the topic? or just thoughts on it, id love to be wrong but in order believe something you have to think its true
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I would suggest Waking Up by Sam Harris. Also watch his talks on Big Think.

If you really want to experience it, I would suggest you give serious thought to taking a psychedelic like psilocybin. Of course, that's not a decision to take lately and you should absolutely avoid it if there is a history of mental illness in the family, specifically schizoaffective disorder.
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Relevant?

>In other words, the earliest definitions describe the key defining feature of meditation as an experience of “mental silence”.

>Many other explicit examples of this definition can be found in Eastern literature from virtually every historical period. Lao Tzu, for example, urged us to “Empty the mind of all thoughts” in the Tao Te Ching.

>Yet Western definitions of meditation have consistently failed to acknowledge its significance. Perhaps this is because of the predominance of the Cartesian dictum “cogito ergo sum” (I think therefore I am) that has come to characterise not only Western philosophy but the psyche as well.

>This might explain why for most people in the West, including the academics and researchers on whom we rely to generate our scientific knowledge, mental silence represents both an alien concept and an illogical experience.

https://theconversation.com/meditation-mindfulness-and-mind-emptiness-21291
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>>8224737
>>This might explain why for most people in the West, including the academics and researchers on whom we rely to generate our scientific knowledge, mental silence represents both an alien concept and an illogical experience.

This must also be why the west has so many great achievements in science, philosophy and culture while the east, just sitting around thinking they don't exist all day, still poop in buckets and don't know math.

>"Anon, welcome aboard. I'll start by introducing the the to you and telling you a little about them."
>"This is Jane. She enjoys running marathons for charity. This guy you'll be working with is David. He's a Rhodes Scholar and in his spare time he's the CEO of a charity that raises over $4 million a year for sustainable farming tools for Malawi. Wendy here got her PhD in Physical Chemistry from Berkeley last year and when she's not playing with her kids she still like spending a few evenings a week at her university lab."
>"Tell us about yourself Anon! What do you do in your spare time?"
>"Just reading...??? Anything else...? Oh..."
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Are you really that fucking stupid that you can't remember reading my CV when I applied here?
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I entertain mentally challenged children and teach them valuable life skills.
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>>8224617
"I write articles for several right-conservative print and online newspapers."

>tfw I realize people wouldn't consider this a "hobby"
Goddamn, what do normies even do. I go to the gym and participate in marathons. Ain't that something? Where do winners even get the time for that shit.

Hey /lit/

Started reading this. Have absolutely no idea what the fuck Deleuze is saying. Should i continue? Is this because I have not read enough philosophy (this reason is quite probable. If it is this what should i read to prepare myself? ) Does it make more sense the second or third read? Is the effort worth it?

Also general philosophy 'what are you reading, what are you struggling with, what are you working on' thread. All philosophy welcome not just continental rubbish.
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>>8224606
What possible reason would encourage you to start with one of the most esoteric and dense philosophers of the 20th century if you've barely read any philosophy?
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>>8224651
This. Fuck off, OP... and start with the greeks.
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>>8224651
It was recommended to me by my lecturer.

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What books do you stand to gain the most from intellectually? Sometimes even Kernels of truth stick with in in a really big way. Sometimes you read a story that you feel you are constantly referring to in your own life. I am looking for books that won't feel like a waste of time to read them, sometimes I can read very deep into and focus intensely on so I can feel as though I'm extracting their knowledge.
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Harry Potter
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>>8224527
Bloom's The Western Canon.
Designated pseud killer.

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Thoughts?
I think he is one of the best writers of fiction in history.
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>horned waning moon
Garbage purple prose with no variety.
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>>8224500
it adds to the tension and suspende in his stories.
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>>8224494
Doesn't set scenes very well. For his time, really good. Best writers of all time? No. Best of cosmic horror writers? Definitely up there as a pioneer.

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>have a decent idea for a book
>can't write decent prose

How do I die?
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>>8224455
>How do I die?
By dying of exhaustion due to endless soul-crushing training of your prose skills.
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>>8224455
we're all dead inside already
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Write anyway.

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Is there any inherent value in achievement? Also, what's the point of publishing a novel? What's the point of releasing any piece of art? Does other people reading something you've made somehow add value to your life? Is it nothing but vanity?
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Take the black pill
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>>8224416
Vanitas vanitatum, yes. I write because it makes life less unbearable, as I knowingly partake with others into the shared lie of meaning.
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>>8224416
>Is there any inherent value in achievement?

there's no such thing

>Also, what's the point of publishing a novel? What's the point of releasing any piece of art?

there's no such thing as 'points', get rid of illusionary teleologies.

> Does other people reading something you've made somehow add value to your life?

if you want it to.

> Is it nothing but vanity?

as opposed to what.

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What are some of the best female characters in literature who's NOT (!) a Manic Pixie Dream Girl™ or a shallow cliché in other ways (like the Whore™, Madonna™, etc)?

I'm looking for the female Raskolnikov, sort of.
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>>8224413

gee™ bro™ i™ don't™ know™
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>>8224413
you sound nearly almost as butthurt as this guy >>8224417
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>>8224413
The Waves has good female characterisation.

A lot of front that masks deep insecurity and jealousy.

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ITT: Everybody gives his understanding of what a SPOOK is.

I'm tired of all the threads where one anon gives an explanation and two anons will say "that's not it" without improvong upon it
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Ideology subsumed concepts.
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>>8224406
"higher causes"
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What haunts the universe, and has its occult, “incomprehensible” being there, is precisely the mysterious
spook that we call highest essence. And to get to the bottom of this spook, to comprehend it, to
discover reality in it (to prove “the existence of God”) — this task men set to themselves for thousands
of years; with the horrible impossibility, the endless Danaid-labor, of transforming the spook into a
non-spook, the unreal into something real, the spirit into an entire and corporeal person — with this
they tormented themselves to death. Behind the existing world they sought the “thing in itself,” the
essence; behind the thing they sought the un-thing.

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