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>>8292467
Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton

>>8292475
Nope.

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>>8292467
I'm also trying to remember a book I read years ago. Maybe this can be a book finder thread? Here's mine:
>It starts out kind of spy themed like an Ian Fleming novel (but not Ian Fleming novel), but you know kind of Tom Clancy pulpy sort of.
>Basically this guy is standing by a private twin prop, he's American but he doesn't have a name or anything
>His men bring him some Soviet exmilitary type guys causing civil unrest, they have bags on their heads
>He and his crew have a brief chat and pack Soviets into the plane
>They take off, heading toward a maximum security prison or something
>Shortly into the flight they start an interrogation
>Long story short, there's an action scene and the Russian guys miraculously escape, and the plane crashes with the Americans, and the rest of the story is about catching this guy
Can anyone help me?

>>8292462

>Writes about loneliness
>can't conceptualize it in any way what so ever
>chooses to compensate it by faux 2deep5u sub standard proses.

GTFO.

>>8292462
>>8292486
>1 reply
>1 IP
try and make your samefags a bit less obvious next time

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>>8292491

Did you read them in German?

>>8292259
No, but I read the best translations I could get my hands on. Doesn't that count for something?

>>8292269
No.

Yeah. My native language is spoken by 5 million people only so I just can't, you know, get into this whole "language matters" thing. I have to pretend that translations are okay.

If I don't, it'll lead down to being like Heidegger, which, for me, would mean accepting that I just can't read any real philosophy since my native language isn't any good, has no philosophical history and so on.

Please understand.

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>it's an anon thinks meaning and language are inseparable episode

>suggesting I'm still not basically just translating unless I spoke German with native proficiency and exposure
>suggesting that reading a translation by someone who does know German well doesn't put me close to the original meaning than me reading it in German myself with poorer understanding than the translator
>implying all reading isn't a form of transation anyway
Nigga, reading translations is the best option for the most part.

>>8292132
FUCK Ayn Rand.

>>8292132
does this thread have to happen every day?

>>8292134
Why? I'm genuinely curious

>>8292079
you work harder

Any story worth telling can be told in a sentence.

>>8292079
use storyboards.
make a beat-sheet by laying out the basic story beats(X happens, then Y happens, then these two talk, etc.) Then use that as a guide to keep you writing in a direction by expanding each story beat into the narrative like a checklist.
Don't worry about your prose, finish it first, then edit it once there's something substantial on paper

They were the highlight of my childhood reading, I was sad when I finished them.

>>8292069

They sorta diagnosed my autism

I never laughed at any of the "jokes" (i.e. "And everyone spent the rest of the day turning their pencils over and over again, trying to write their names on them") I just got angry at them and confused why anyone would do something so stupid, so I got sent to a behavioral health specialists and wouldn't you know it, Autism.

>>8292086
>being actually autistic

Post some of your work.

Never heard of it but please don't change. A writer who is excited about writing but who doesn't read would be extremely valuable. Please do post your work and don't be discouraged if people don't like it. You have what may be a unique situation, hold onto it

>>8292015
Alright I dug this up

http://pastebin.com/Qc3ERcpn

This one I actually got paid for, but it was never published so I never polished it
Sorry in advance for the mistakes that are surely in it

Fitzgerald > Lattimore >>>>>>>>> Fagles

Pope almost seems like he's part of an incomparable lineage desu. I don't think he was really trying to accomplish the same things as the others.

No translation. But I do like Lattimore.

ITT: people who have read 0-1 translations but feel qualified to speak on all of them.

Nope.

>>8291980
I think they have some merit since they give an insight into the mind of a great painter. He was pretty crazy though, his last letters to his brother show this pretty clearly.

>>8291980
Generally, writing by painters make enjoyable reading (I don't mean Mein Kampf) because they talk in specifics:

"It’s a magnificent morning, the sun is shining through the large acacias on the playground, flashing on the roofs and windows visible behind the garden. There are already threads of gossamer in the garden, and it’s cool in the morning and the boys run back and forth to get warm. I hope to tell them the story of John and Theagene..."

So on that alone they have merit. There's really no difference between his paintings and his letters once you get into them. They're no more philosophical than what's usually on display, but you would expect him (a painter) to provide you the evidence and let you draw your own conclusions anyway.

>>8291977
*my reading it
No Socrates or Everyman philosopher could have written it. What makes Machiavelli's account so scintillating to me is how it's so unprecedented, like mailing the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times. Only courtesans and monarchs have experienced the benefits of furtive and manipulative dominion, and reading this is like putting another person's head on. I don't think Machiavelli intended it, but in the countryside, flummoxed out favor, he wrote today's equivalent of a tell-all book hoping it would place him back into favor.

Imagine if Edward Snowden wrote a letter to Obama saying how 'tasteful invasive surveillance' should be executed.

>ruling back then
Still applies to nowadays and is widely applied by nowaday's politicians.

Machiavelli never wrote a manual on how to be a dick like many people seem to think. He wrote a book on how to effectively maintain your kingdom stable if you are a political leader. A shame it is distorted so often.

Obligatory read for law students by the way, I had to do this at the second/third month of my first semester. But I had already read it before, pretty good read, especially interesting if you are reading the version with Napoleon's commentaries (you will find that he is a immense moron that only says "THE POWER!! THE POWER!!!" every single time, I wonder how someone like that managed to be such a based political leader)

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I was just thinking about this.
The Italian literary tradition never really recovered after Dante. Perhaps understandably since he is a hell of an act to follow but the English followed up and prospered after Shakespeare so im not entirely sure why that is.
Still, while its easy to deprecate Italian lit what they had instead was an explosion of art, sculpture and architecture that was unlike anything the rest of Europe was able to sustain. And the Renaissance is more visible now anything the English literary tradition came up with.

>>8291830
Well, you can self publish with Amazon, so that's a moot point.

>>8291830
>is it all about who you know when it comes to writing?
if you are talking about big publishers, yes

>>8291830
>is it all about who you know when it comes to writing?
No, you can take a piece of paper and write right now.

If you're talking about having any success or recognition or even your work reaching people in any way, then yes.

Moby Dick.

>>8291795
Pretty much anything by Jack Kerouac. On the Road and The Dharma Bums are both very happy, "joyous" books. Very comfy. Have fun, OP.

>happiness
Pleb emotion. Grew out of that one at 10. Contentment is the hip new thing.

I just finished Siddhartha too

>>8291771

>it's a sheltered white western liberal wants to convert to Buddhism episode

I bet you suck dicks too, faggot.
Namaste.

>>8291846
Not him
Buddhism turned me into a republican because all of those things are voluntary and shouldnt be forced onto people.

jesus christ that nose!

ohboyherewego.jpg

>>8291733
the nose is the source of intellect