what exactly is volume 2 of this book? was it chapters he left out that they put together after he died? have you read volume 2?
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come on guys. none of you have read this? !
am i getting shafted or nah
>falling for actual memes
what site is that?
sick of amazon fucking me over with 4 dollar shipping
>>8291449
who are you quoting?
Any other good books set in African conflicts?
Not exactly a piece of literature, but there's a memoir I remember called 'My Friend the Mercenary' about some British reporter who hired a South African bodyguard to protect while in Liberia. It was quite entertaining.
We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families
Non-fiction about Rwanda Genocide
Haven't read it but been intending to for a while, seems pretty interesting
Weep Not, Child is set in Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising.
I know Stephen King is kinda plebby, (but I love his books anyway.)
What's your favorite Stephen King novel, /lit/?
>>8291252
Pet Sematary scared me the most, but Misery pulled me in the most. Either one of those, I suppose.
The Long Walk
i just bought the stand, should i try to read it?
Has /lit/ read pic related? Thoughts? I just finished and I think it's an interesting story, but a semi-shitty book.
>Palahniuk
how do you pronounce Palahnuik?
the one time I said it, I pronounced it like Paladin, but before the 'din' bit I made a wretching noise, so I pronounced it like
Pala-n'HURRK
but my lit professor laughed at me so I guess it wasn't right
>>8291207
Pala-nook
Is it fair for engineering students to have an easier English course than students in any other faculty?
I-I just like reading books
>>8291064
Is it fair for humanities students to have an easier science course than students in any other faculty?
>So is there any other female even close to her level of writing?
Been thinking about reading The Waves recently, is it really as good as they say?
>>8290925
When I'm asked about female writers and all i can say is VW, I feel it's kinda wannabe, because there are obviously more female writes than her. But once I go, think about it and reread such a masterpiece like the waves, I remember why she gets all the credit. So, in response to your questions, I have to add this ¿is literature really for women?
Austen and Rossetti are god tier and, in america, the best female writers are Dickinson and Henry James.
Never cared for Woolf tbqh, her works are full of vulgar cliches
>>8290925
Lear how to greentext woolfposter
My brother is a huge weeb who has never read a chapter book in his life. In order to try and get him to read I made a deal with him. He reads five books that I select for him and I'll watch five anime series of his choosing (I have never seen anime other than the Ghibli movies).
I enjoyed what I watched but don't think I am going to be watching any more anime any time soon. But now when I sit down and start to read something I imagine all the characters as if it were anime. It's honestly driving me crazy and no matter how hard I try to stop I eventually slip back into it. It is kind of ruining my reading experience.
What should I do, /lit/? Will it just go away so long as I don't watch any more weeb-shit? Should I just give up reading and become a filthy otaku like my brother? Or should I just blow my brains out to get all this anime out of my head?
Go watch the entire Bergman filmography to counter the weeb poison.
Start with Persona.
Get down with the sickness
Embrace it.
Hit rock bottom and then rise as a new individual.
Do you agree with this book's argument?
Do you think mentally ill people have been treated inhumanely throughout history?
Do you think psychiatry is a flawed field of study morally?
(pic related is my copy)
I've never read it but isn't it just that most "mental illness" is a social construct and the combination of state force and that psychiatrists will always find something "problematic" to "fix" as long as it's profitable for them to keep creating new mental illnesses
It was 2 dense 4 me to read, but it boils down to how mentally ill people were at times better treated in the past because they were accepted or even praised for the eccentricities whilst giving free permission to roam in society - right? Meanwhile we today just lock people up and tell them they're not normal and need to change?
Have I got that right?
>>8290901
I'm >>8290902 so I haven't read it either, but just to comment on this any way: I think if so, Foucault might be somewhat outdated today. A lot has happened in the field in the last couple of decades even. When I myself sought psychiatric help I was constantly told it's for me to decide what I want help with, and that it isn't in itself wrong to live in any certain way as long as I myself don't consider it an issue I want to overcome. I got quite the opposite feeling from them seeing anything as problematic and in need of a fix. It's an issue when you feel it's an issue.
And I think people put too much thought into diagnosis. Yes, almost everyone can be found to have one. It doesn't mean they need psychiatric help or that they're not normal. Nor does it mean diagnosis are meaningless - it's just a way for the psychiatrists to be able to label things to ease their work. It shouldn't mean a lot to the person being diagnosed. You're not your diagnosis. You're you, and our identity and functioning are far more complex than that.
I think people just love labels secretly. Oh I'm borderline. I'm INTP. I'm a Radiohead-fan.
Hello /lit/,
Given your hatred for women and their lack of education in literature, how would you go about educating one as a board? What would you start her off on? Where would you start? Do you think women are even worth trying on? What if you had a willing subject? I'm quite curious.
The Greeks.
>>8290805
Even fucking Plato?
>>8290815
Especially Plato.
There is no way to force others to agree with your definition of literary quality. Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy" and their definition of joy is their own and may vary from time to time.
What the academia-media-publishing industrial complex and its pseudo intellectual hangers on (i.e., /lit/) seeks to do is band together to form a large group with a common definition of literary quality, a definition which may not be honestly believed by individual members of the group. This gives them many advantages, one of which is relevant to /lit/: the ability to claim to have a superior intellect or literary knowledge based on their literary preferences.
This same pattern repeats itself among many groups.
You're a hipster OP.
Your entire post says nothing that isn't obvious. This is just how taste and trends work, with all things.
You haven't figured anything out. And you're not above it, lad.
>Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy" and their definition of joy is their own and may vary from time to time.
That's true, but there CAN be a qualitative measuring of joy. As much as I don't really like John Stuart Mill, I think that he had a point in the ability for someone who has more education to make a more accurate assumption concerning what is more pleasurable.
For example: fly fishing versus bait fishing. If you ask anyone who has knowledge of fly fishing and can do it if they prefer fly fishing or bait fishing, I can damn-near guarantee that every single one will say that fly fishing is more pleasurable than bait fishing. But it's also more difficult, so less people are apt to do it than bait fishing. But the ones that have made an attempt to further their knowledge to understand how to do the various forms of fishing will almost unanimously agree on fly fishing.
Carrying that example to literature, I think it's obvious that someone who has read more, and has been specifically taught in the art of reading, will be able to derive more pleasure from works that are objectively better. Why do you think there are thousands of academic writings on Henry James, but very few on contemporary John Galsworthy? It's because people who are educated in reading will derive more pleasure from the dense, intricate style of James.
> Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy"
This is obviously false. If it were the case that most people defined "artistic quality" as whatever brings them joy, then they would would accept that sex, the company of friends and family, good food, etc., -- all things which bring people joy -- have "artistic quality." But few if anyone would claim that these things have "artistic quality." And so it is safe to conclude that most people either don't believe that artistic quality constitutes whatever brings them joy, or else that they do but are thoroughly confused.
OP you need to be more rigorous when discussing (or thinking) about this sort of thing.
Discuss (the book not the fucking movie, let's fix past mistakes)
I enjoyed it. I had seen the movie previously and was grateful to find literary value in the story, which the movie made rather unpalatable, obscured and bizzare.
Enjoyed learning nadsat and reading the book in Malcom McDowell's voice. P.S the film's pristine wtf.
He managed to make the double child rape hilarious, I think that sums the book up well
would you pay for it?
>>8290564
Reddit would. Link it to some of the lolsorandum subreddits and make a couple hundred dollars.
>>8290564
>mfw Chuck Tingle has imitators now
I linked to a couple of subreddits and no one liked it. I guess if 4chan is even more sophisticated than reddit then this will not do well
Discuss
>>8290511
p gud
>>8290511
very good
>>8290511
shit
>relish the fact
only came here to capture the pepe. shit thread.
>>8290415
>really opened my eyes to the fact that-
"trust me, this book will open your third eye"