https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/4teozs/have_you_ever_had_to_stop_reading_a_novel_because/
>Nobody has really read Finnegan's Wake. People only make the claim and nobody can call them out on it, as they've never read it either.
>Nah, not entirely a prank, although there are lots of prankish elements to Joyce's later work - Ulysses, for instance, is filled with meaningless themes and arbitrary motifs specifically designed to throw academics off the trail of his true meaning.
>Finnegans Wake, however, I'm convinced is the product of a brilliant mind looking at itself through the twisted lens of a deep drug psychosis... By the time he started writing it, Joyce was heavily addicted to opiates (ultimately the consequence of a long string of eye surgeries) and propped up with a healthy regiment of amphetamines (will have to double check this last bit). Point is, he was high as shit for years upon years when he wrote that madness...
Why is Leddit so pleb?
>>8293299
Why are you going to reddit?
>The most apparent book that comes to mind is the first Dune. There was way too much going on with the political details, history, and nomenclature. My poor teenage mind couldn't follow it all.
Also:
>past Chapter 2. It is so boring. Also, in grad school I was assigned Proust's "Remembrance of things past" and I couldn't finish it. Of course I was in a M.A. French Lit program and reading the original text so there's that.
M.A. in French Lit but too stupid to read Moby-Dick or Proust? Are they just passing out degrees to anyone who wants one?
>>8293374
Oops, accidentally cut off the bit where he can't read Mony-Dick.
Thoughts?
>>8293241
Good book misappropriated by edge-lords and fedoras.
>>8293241
One of the best film adaptions I've seen desu
Good book, terrible film adaptation. Leaving out the last chapter from the film ruins the entire point.
Is he in hiding?
>>8293232
Pynchon has friends and family and goes outside and stuff. He's not a total recluse. He just doesn't want a media presence.
I'm sure if you want you could do some snooping around and stalk him, snap a picture or two, but no one has tried that for a while now.
fun fact: the photogropher of this picture wanted to shake Pynchon's hand but he told him to "Get your fucking hand away from me. I don't like people taking my picture!"
>>8293242
das not my man pynch
>>8293242
Who cares about photo's though?
Hey /lit/ Wanna get into some Philosophy. Who should I start with? Some Greek niggas?
Plato's dialogs, of course.
>>8293182
No, he should really start with the pre-socratics.
>>8293195
No. He should start with Plato, and then move on to the pre-socratics.
Why the fuck do people put these ugly cases on their books?
>>8293138
they sell the book; once it is purchased it may be removed
i keep them because it makes finding an individual book easier on my shelves
>>8293138
It keeps the sun off
>>8293138
Literature is just as commercial as any other form of media. Gaudy designs appeal to the masses.
>2.64 MB, 3072x4096
Was that really necessary for slip cover?
My friend's dog just died, and I was thinking of getting him this collection of Jack London's canine stories.
I've not read it myself, are they any good?
Also, I'm a bit deficient when it comes to social norms. Is it acceptable to give someone a book of dog stories when they're grieving their best friend? I can't tell if it's a good idea or not.
>>8293109
>I've not read it myself, are they any good?
I think they are among the best of classic American literature, and are also very accessible to none readers.
> Is it acceptable to give someone a book of dog stories when they're grieving their best friend?
I think the best thing would be nothing, asked the wife and she concurred. Offer condolences.
Their good books, but that's fucked. Don't buy that for him..
>>8293109
I get you have good intentions but if you can't see why that would be a bad idea then maybe you need to re-assess the situation, OP. Fellow dog-lover here who lost his best canine buddy a year ago today: I can confirm that it will feel insensitive, even if you mean well. Give him a few months and then recommend him the book if you think he'd enjoy it/if you enjoyed it.
Billy Shakes and Chuck Dickens wrote to entertain the plebs of the day and now their work is revered as high art.
Do you think that time will see today's pleb fiction become tomorrow's patrician lit?
>>8293037
>mistaking effect for cause this hard
>>8293037
>mistaking effect for cause this hard
>Dickens
>High art
>Shakes
>Written only for plebs
Shakespeare is like a good kids show, on one level retarded and simple for kids, and on another full of hidden meanings and innuendo to keep parents entertained
I want to dive into John Keats' poems. Some recommendations? Is there a good starting point for any collected works?
I found a 'Hyperion: a fragment' book but I don't know if that poem is incomplete (for the 'a fragment' subtitle).
Hyperion is very good. Keats abandoned the poem because it was too Miltonic ( that's what "A Fragment" refers to), but there's some incredible stuff in it.
Anything from 1819 (his odes especially) and 1820 is genius, just about the most sustained period of brilliance in English verse. He's also one of great sonneteers in English, so check them out too.
>>8293017
any Keats collected or selected works will certainly have all the famous poems and starting points
the odes -autumn, nightingale, Grecia urn, psyche, melancholy
when I have fears I may cease to be
on sitting down to dead king lear again
on seeing the Elgin marbles
are all good starting points.
I recommend saving hyperion fall of hyperion and endymion for later.
Oh yeah, and don't read Endymion either. It's so sickly sweet I feel like vomiting every time I read past the first book (song of Pan is good though).
Just a daily reminder that reading to become more cultured is motivated by the same kind of narcissism as obsessing with makeup or fancy clothes.
>>8292925
And how is that bad? Strive for excellence on every field or don't try at all
You're kind of right, but at least reading to become more cultured provides the opportunity for the reader to better themselves and become a more well-rounded person, while those other things you mentioned just waste money.
>>8292925
lol no
Is there any book that will help me stop being so indecisive?
It's become a serious problem in my life. I'm completely paralyzed by it and my life has completely stagnated. Whenever I dedicate myself to something, there's always this nagging frustration i'm wasting my time going down the wrong path, so I always just end up back to square one -- sat here alone in my room twiddling my thumbs, fantasizing about what could have been and what could be.
Siddhartha is a pretty good book about carving your own path.
Atlas Shrugged
The Defining Decade seems to be on the issue you're describing. Started on it, but haven't gotten around to finishing it, but if I remember correctly (it's been a while), the gist of it is just to pick something and go for it. It's alright if you end up not liking the path you chose, but having started, you may come up on to other opportunities you would not have had otherwise, and those can lead to other sets of opportunities, and so on, until you eventually land on something you like.
Why isn't Shakespeare considered a fantasy writer?
I mean... Oberon, Titania and the other fairies in Midsummer, Hamlet's ghost dad, the three witches in Macbeth, the sorcerers/sprites/spirits in The Tempest... etc.
>>8292841
idk
>>8292841
>some fantastical elements = fantasy writer
Come on now
Fantasy is largely a post Tolkein phenomenon dominated by world building and things of that kind. People just don't put things taken from myth and fairy tale in the same basket.
What does /lit/ think of Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo? I found it really disturbing and yet very captivating... the way the author writes his characters and his prose style makes it a very in-depth and fast read. I read it in a day. I liked it, even though it was such a sad and achingly poignant book. Good stuff.
>>8292812
Its basically MUH MERICA and other kind of drivel, for the emotionally retarded.
>>8292837
Literally untrue, its first and foremost anti-war, and then below that a call for the universality of humanity.
>>8292812
I read it in highschool, but it has always been up there in my favorite books. The chapters where he focuses on his nerve endings to figure out what happens to him, and his "speech" via morse code are my favorite parts. Also the perpetual dreamlike state he exists in is compelling.
>>8292837
>dalton trumbo
>literally put in prison for being a gommie
>muh america
Red pill me on Zizek
He's so pleasantly deranged but i have no idea what his actual philosophy entails; i just laugh at him.
>mad slovenian man robs DVD publisher blind! must see! [18+]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpxT_iJ8Mc
>>8292788
>i have no idea what his actual philosophy entails; i just laugh at him.
this is zizek fans if they were all honest
>>8292795
>incest between mother and son, I like this
What did he mean by this?
Think about it...
There are more books printed and translated into many languages than any point in human history. His fanbase of constant readers is MASSIVE and his books sell like crazy all over the world. Add to that how prolific he is and it makes me curious if anyone has ever had more human beings read their stories than Stephen King.
>>8292739
I think folks were illiterate when he wrote that and the Quran.
Given the current literacy rates, I'm going with Stephen King. He's a much better writer than God.
>Classicists watch in horror as modern genre fiction authors creep closer and closer to the top spot
>>8292747
Goddamnit, I forgot about overrated ass Shakespeare.
ITT we post the worst shmoop summary we can find
>>8292523
That's really accurate tho
I've only watched the animu of this. Is there any reason to care about the book?
>>8292893
>Is there any reason to care about the book?
Yes.